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Old 12-10-2011, 14:43
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Say goodbye to the NHL on ESPN America...
The NHL are the kings of signing TV contracts with obscure channels that loads of their fans don't have access to.

With no NBA on the horizon, ESPN America is going to be showing a lot of college basketball in the coming months, it would seem.
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Old 12-10-2011, 14:45
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Remember the issues seems to be caused by the NHL / AMI, not the tv channels.
Understood.
Hope whoever is responsible for this whole sorry farce at the NHL is currently looking for a new job. The league has been trying to grow a wider audience around the world for a long time now, for obvious reasons. The clearest example of this 'investment' is the millions spent each year putting on season opening games in Europe.
They might as well have not bothered.
There's an old saying here - 'the arse doesn't know what the elbow is doing'!
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Old 12-10-2011, 14:47
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tweet from premier sport.


NHL arrives on Premier this weekend. We aim to show as many games live as possible. Up to 10 per week. Happy days.
Who or what is Premier?

(ok - it's not the obscure religious channel I at first thought!)
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Old 12-10-2011, 14:51
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That's that sorted then...goodbye ESPN - hello Premier!
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Old 12-10-2011, 14:54
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How do we subscribe to them?!! Plus they dont have a HD channel do they??? Huge step backwards!!!
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Old 12-10-2011, 15:00
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How do we subscribe to them?!! Plus they dont have a HD channel do they??? Huge step backwards!!!
You can do it online at their website or through SKY.

Agree that the HD thing is a step backwards but hey - it's hockey...let's worry about that after we've watched a few games!
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Old 12-10-2011, 15:37
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Bye bye ESPN
Bye bye NHL
That's me done!
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Old 12-10-2011, 15:39
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Bye bye ESPN
Bye bye NHL
That's me done!
Ice Hockey in SD with that bitrate - you must be kidding.

Once the baseball finishes I quit ESPN - no point
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Old 12-10-2011, 15:41
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You can do it online at their website or through SKY.

Agree that the HD thing is a step backwards but hey - it's hockey...let's worry about that after we've watched a few games!
Given how difficult it can be to see the puck, especially on shots at goal, it's one sport that relies on HD even more than most. I wonder if the NHL is still mad at ESPN for the parting of the ways they had in N. America a few years back.

Let's see - ESPN America needs content, the NHL should be interested in the broadest possible distribution for their sport in the UK. So do they sign a deal? Of course they don't. Maybe three years from now, Premier Sports will have a Premiership package, and will be showing all the major boxing matches, and will pick up some other gems.

Or, they'll be a fading memory, like Setanta UK. I wonder......
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Old 12-10-2011, 15:42
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You can do it online at their website or through SKY.

Agree that the HD thing is a step backwards but hey - it's hockey...let's worry about that after we've watched a few games!
one live game at 3am on Saturday and two delayed on Sunday according to their website...
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Old 12-10-2011, 16:05
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You can do it online at their website or through SKY.

Agree that the HD thing is a step backwards but hey - it's hockey...let's worry about that after we've watched a few games!
The picture quality is awful on that channel from what ive seen on free weekends/days..

Ive subscribed to Gamecenter now so there's no way im paying another 8 on top of the 12 ive paid for that. I already have ESPN America for Serie A so it was no extra expense watching the NHL on that channel

A step backwards for the NHL

Btw the NHL sold the rights for the next 5 years to the Swedish company so presumably Premier have it for the next 5 years...?
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Old 12-10-2011, 16:10
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How much notice to you need to give ESPN to cancel?
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Old 12-10-2011, 16:29
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The picture quality is awful on that channel from what ive seen on free weekends/days..

Ive subscribed to Gamecenter now so there's no way im paying another 8 on top of the 12 ive paid for that. I already have ESPN America for Serie A so it was no extra expense watching the NHL on that channel

A step backwards for the NHL

Btw the NHL sold the rights for the next 5 years to the Swedish company so presumably Premier have it for the next 5 years...?
Nothing is confirmed regarding exclusive rights yet. For example who is showing NHL in Ireland. Who will show HNIC. Who will show HD. Who will show all playoffs. Premier wont be. Who has rights for Europe. Nobody knows. I reckpn ESPNA are still talking.
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Old 12-10-2011, 16:31
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Just downgraded my tv package with Virgin as I won't be needing ESPN now
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Old 12-10-2011, 16:36
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Nothing is confirmed regarding exclusive rights yet. For example who is showing NHL in Ireland. Who will show HNIC. Who will show HD. Who will show all playoffs. Premier wont be. Who has rights for Europe. Nobody knows. I reckpn ESPNA are still talking.
Setanta are showing NHL in Ireland, confirmed on their website and Facebook page. No surprise there given who has the UK rights.
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Old 12-10-2011, 17:00
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one live game at 3am on Saturday and two delayed on Sunday according to their website...
Yep, not too exciting a start is it? And no mention of HNIC!
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Old 12-10-2011, 17:44
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Just got off the phone to Premier and have the following to report...the channel is a live sports channel so that means direct feeds from the originating broadcaster, no added content from Premier, no delayed games, no chat shows, no magazine programmes and no Hockey Night in Canada.

The good news is that although there are only a couple of games showing up yet on websites, they confirmed games on an almost daily basis as far as their internal records show - November.

I forgot to ask about the HD thing - maybe someone else can do that
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Old 12-10-2011, 17:57
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Who or what is Premier?
How do we subscribe to them?!! Plus they dont have a HD channel do they??? Huge step backwards!!!
Premier Sports is a two-year-old sports channel that was formed by one of the part owners of Setanta Sports, registered at the same Luxembourg address Setanta UK was. It was launched a few months after Setanta UK went bust.

It is only available on the Sky platform and only broadcasts to Great Britain. It doesn't have a HD channel as you say, although it apparently has an "Xtra" channel which could come into play as an overspill channel when two events clash.

The channel tends to be viewed as a budget pay TV sports channel, a residential subscription costs 7.99 per month or a 79.99 12 month "season ticket", and they have rights to plenty of less high-profile sports.

Events they cover include football from the Conference Premier, League of Ireland, Argentinian Primera Division, Campeonato Brasiliero, Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana, Gaelic football and hurling from the GAA, rugby league's NRL, Swedish speedway, the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series, boxing from the ShoBox and Hard Knocks promotions and mixed martial arts in the form of Cage Warriors and UFC Live events.

It will be interesting to see what happens when NHL matches clash with those events that take place in clashing timeslots such as the South American football, NASCAR races and UFC events. The overspill channel might come into play a fair bit.

This weekend, they'll have live coverage of the Anaheim Ducks v San Jose Sharks at 3am on Saturday morning, but Brazilian football and a NASCAR Sprint Cup race take priority on Saturday night/Sunday morning, as will football games from Brazil and a double header from Argentina on Sunday night/Monday morning.

Maybe three years from now, Premier Sports will have a Premiership package, and will be showing all the major boxing matches, and will pick up some other gems.

Or, they'll be a fading memory, like Setanta UK. I wonder......
What's to say they'll be either of the above?

It seems to me as if the people behind the channel have learned the lessons of what happened with Setanta UK and are quite happy to continue as a budget sports channel aimed at people interested in sports with sizeable minority following in the UK, such as fans of the Gaelic Games, Australian rugby league, South American football and now ice hockey. If they can make that work, as they have over the past two years with pretty much the same line-up until now, good luck to them.
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Old 12-10-2011, 18:52
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Very very disappointed by this news, exactly what I'd feared

ESPN America have failed badly on this one, I can't see Premier Sports were willing to pay massively more than they were. All we can hope is that its just a one year deal and that ESPN America are back next year.

8 for a few games a week, no HNIC and no HD. No thanks. ESPN America was a good deal for 10 with HD included plus the bonus of some extra football and rugby. I've no interest in the other stuff on Premier Sports.

On HNIC- when there was the falling out - two years ago I think - didn't ESPN sign a multi year deal to take the coverage, because it was an extra they had to pay for on top of the NHL rights. In which case, it'll be no HNIC on Premier Sports. At best you'd get the games with the away teams coverage (ie US local) coverage when available, or no Canadian match ups - thats what happened when there was no ESPN deal for HNIC.

Seriously tempted by NHL Game Centre now- especially as I can watch on PS3.
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Old 12-10-2011, 18:59
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What is the number for cancelling ESPN
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Old 12-10-2011, 19:24
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Can anyone with Gamecenter Live confirm whether or not they carry HNIC? Ie the full broadcast- epic intros, Coaches Corner, the works.

Any chance of checking this weekend just gone?
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Old 12-10-2011, 19:37
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@PremierSportsTV are you going HD any time soon the sd picture is a little poor
@Bloodzeed in due course. NASCAR fans were worries but picture is excellent for that so would expect same for NHL.
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Old 12-10-2011, 20:01
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very shocked,very disappointed this is a massive backwards step i got sky hd mainly for nhl in hd now i can smell some cancellations coming.
can anyone confirm the quality of game centre live through ps3 ive heard somewhere you can do this?are games in hd?can you watch hnic?thanks for any help
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Old 12-10-2011, 20:39
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Can anyone with Gamecenter Live confirm whether or not they carry HNIC? Ie the full broadcast- epic intros, Coaches Corner, the works.

Any chance of checking this weekend just gone?
The advantages of GCL for me far outweigh the disadvantages, but here goes:

Depending on the broadcaster, sometimes you don't get any pre-game or between-period coverage at all.
It's replaced by a static caption and a piece of music which gets really annoying after 10 seconds, never mind a whole season.

Strangely enough, you can usually, however, switch to the other team's local broadcast which might be showing everything...analysis, goals from other games, commercials etc.

Sadly, this Saturday HNIC was replaced by the first option.
The archived game doesn't have it either.

I'm still a huge fan of GCL though, despite what I've just said I still think it's awesome

The stats are mind-boggling, you can join a game live or play it from the start, there are replays of what you might have missed, a live chat room, the list goes on...
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Old 12-10-2011, 20:45
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Well, i'm gutted about the NHL being on Premier sports. To sign a deal with TV station thats not even available on Virgin and without HD coverage is quite frankly ridiculous.

I do have GCL though which is superb bar not getting to see the full HNIC intermissions , I would highly recommend it to anyone.
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