Vanessa surprised at being interviewed by police
Why are the police still pursuing this?
Oh well at least the good people of Herts can expect likewise to receive such dogged diligent attention from their police, should they be unfortunate enough to have to report a burglary or personal crime.
Oh well at least the good people of Herts can expect likewise to receive such dogged diligent attention from their police, should they be unfortunate enough to have to report a burglary or personal crime.
Originally Posted by Charizard:
“Why are the police still pursuing this?”
“Why are the police still pursuing this?”
Because they have the self appointed moral gaurdians of the UK, The Sun, NotW, The Mirror, etc. on their backs, watching their every move over this story, so they have to be seen to be doing it by the book.
Originally Posted by without_reason:
“What a sad waste of already stretched police resources (and tax payers money).”
“What a sad waste of already stretched police resources (and tax payers money).”
what he said
Plus it means that they get to see unedited footage from the house that is never going to be broadcasted.
I'd love to be able to order endemol to release all of the shower video logs to me...
I'd love to be able to order endemol to release all of the shower video logs to me...
They've got shots taken from special heat cameras that can see right through clothes and bedclothes, and the police will obviously be examining those, to see if there are any hot spots caused by bruising or other tissue damage.
Originally Posted by without_reason:
“What a sad waste of already stretched police resources (and tax payers money).”
“What a sad waste of already stretched police resources (and tax payers money).”
Exactly..I live in hertfordshire and never see a policeman from one week to the next!
When my daughter was assulted I was told not to expect anyone to be caught as they didnt have the manpower to search
Originally Posted by rosemary:
“When my daughter was assulted I was told not to expect anyone to be caught as they didnt have the manpower to search”
“When my daughter was assulted I was told not to expect anyone to be caught as they didnt have the manpower to search
”
Yes, but was your daughter assaulted live on national television?
Originally Posted by Inge Jones:
“They've got shots taken from special heat cameras that can see right through clothes and bedclothes, and the police will obviously be examining those, to see if there are any hot spots caused by bruising or other tissue damage.”
“They've got shots taken from special heat cameras that can see right through clothes and bedclothes, and the police will obviously be examining those, to see if there are any hot spots caused by bruising or other tissue damage.”
Wow! Have you seen the classic 70's movie "The Man With X Ray Eyes"
I doubted that the police would give a hoot, but I stand corrected. There's a point actually, I wonder if the housemates have the right (under the Data Protection Act) to request all unedited footage of themselves in the house, in a similar manner to a regular MOTP requesting CCTV footage form the council? (I think it's the DPA which permits this)
Originally Posted by brunobrookes:
“I wonder if the housemates have the right (under the Data Protection Act) to request all unedited footage of themselves in the house”
“I wonder if the housemates have the right (under the Data Protection Act) to request all unedited footage of themselves in the house”
No they don't. The footage is not of a public area...
They can ask to see it but not formally request it.
Originally Posted by Scruffy git:
“No they don't. The footage is not of a public area...
They can ask to see it but not formally request it.”
“No they don't. The footage is not of a public area...
They can ask to see it but not formally request it.”
Er no - the Data Protection Act says that you may request copies of *any* data that companies/organisations hold on you. It would be interesting to see if BB footage counts as that - although the CCTV comment above implies that there is already a precedent.
The organisation *is* however allowed to charge you a reasonable (cost?) amount for the media and copying costs. For weeks worth of video tapes this might be quite a large amount.
Originally Posted by Scruffy git:
“Yes, but was your daughter assaulted live on national television?”
“Yes, but was your daughter assaulted live on national television?”
...and was it racially-aggravated?
It may be that the Police have to keep the file open until they can check with the victim (Victor) whether he feels the assault on him was racist. If he does, then it was a racist attack according to MacPherson, and the Police will have to prosecute this serious offence.
Originally Posted by without_reason:
“It would be interesting to see if BB footage counts as that - although the CCTV comment above implies that there is already a precedent. ”
“It would be interesting to see if BB footage counts as that - although the CCTV comment above implies that there is already a precedent. ”
I'm pretty sure the HM's will have waived their rights to request any footage containing their image!
Originally Posted by Pushka:
“...and was it racially-aggravated?
It may be that the Police have to keep the file open until they can check with the victim (Victor) whether he feels the assault on him was racist. If he does, then it was a racist attack according to MacPherson, and the Police will have to prosecute this serious offence.”
“...and was it racially-aggravated?
It may be that the Police have to keep the file open until they can check with the victim (Victor) whether he feels the assault on him was racist. If he does, then it was a racist attack according to MacPherson, and the Police will have to prosecute this serious offence.”
It'll never happen...
Originally Posted by Scruffy git:
“I'm pretty sure the HM's will have waived their rights to request any footage containing their image!”
“I'm pretty sure the HM's will have waived their rights to request any footage containing their image!”
I don't think you can opt out of the Data Protection act. However a little further research leads me to believe that its only commercial and public CCTV that is covered and not broadcast media. Also the costs are not as I reported but should only be £10.
Originally Posted by rosemary:
“Exactly..I live in hertfordshire and never see a policeman from one week to the next!
When my daughter was assulted I was told not to expect anyone to be caught as they didnt have the manpower to search”
“Exactly..I live in hertfordshire and never see a policeman from one week to the next!
When my daughter was assulted I was told not to expect anyone to be caught as they didnt have the manpower to search
”
Yes I totally agree
Quote:
“Plus it means that they get to see unedited footage from the house that is never going to be broadcasted.”
“Plus it means that they get to see unedited footage from the house that is never going to be broadcasted.”
You have hit the nail bang on the head. At the tax payers expense. It's about time the jerks spent their time resolving real crimes instead of persuing an incident on an overheated game show......
Originally Posted by Pushka:
“...and was it racially-aggravated?
It may be that the Police have to keep the file open until they can check with the victim (Victor) whether he feels the assault on him was racist.”
“...and was it racially-aggravated?
It may be that the Police have to keep the file open until they can check with the victim (Victor) whether he feels the assault on him was racist.”
I understand the valid point here but I just can't contemplate that the poilce would wait for the game to finish before pursuing. Why couldn't they just take Victor to the DR or the bedsit or anywhere for an interview? As we know, any supposed blocking of contact has gone out the window after Shell had a mate visit, so why the police would even consider waiting is beyond me.
People who post that the police shouldn't be wasting their time are misguided - if an offence has been committed (or suspected so) then the police must pursue it as they would with any allegation. You wouldn't be saying that if you'd been the victim etc. etc. The wasting of time that I object to is their apparent wait to let this sorry excuse for a gameshow to finish.
EDIT: by the way, the link that kicked off this thread is now showing a blank ananova page, and I can't find any reference amongst all the other BB fluff like Stuart has a big hat. Stinks of rats in here!
Quote:
“if an offence has been committed (or suspected so) then the police must pursue it as they would with any allegation”
“if an offence has been committed (or suspected so) then the police must pursue it as they would with any allegation”
That in practice is rubbish. If the police had to persue a crime as you are misguided in thinking then they would have to persue a car break in and vandalism and theft of car parts. (A personal incident) I informed them of the crime of the fact that the car was littered with finger prints. Guess what. They didn't persue the crime.
Sorry but the police persue what they want when they want without any regard to common sense or attempt to catch real criminals.
This whole BB police exercise is a criminal wast of tax payers money and police funds.
Originally Posted by malcom:
“That in practice is rubbish. If the police had to persue a crime as you are misguided in thinking then they would have to persue a car break in and vandalism and theft of car parts. (A personal incident)”
“That in practice is rubbish. If the police had to persue a crime as you are misguided in thinking then they would have to persue a car break in and vandalism and theft of car parts. (A personal incident)”
I'm sorry to hear about that. Like I said, the police should pursue all crimes as much as resources allow. It's very unfortunate that they chose not to in your case, but does it follow that because they didn't, they shouldn't pursue in other cases? Would you say, "fair dues, I know you're busy" if they chose not to pursue a case of assault against you? No, you'd kick up a stink. And as someone else pointed out, this case is a bit special in that you have the entire tabloid press sector stood over it, waiting to pounce and spill every single bean once enquiries are over or the case completes a trial.
