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Old 09-09-2010, 14:44
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I wonder if anyone can advise on how I can sort out a problem for my parents who are both in their 70's as easily as possible. They are the sole owners of a private road which provides access for six houses in a cul-de-sac. They live in the house nearest the public road. Round the corner from them is a row of terraced houses, which has its own parking area at the far end of the row. Recently the two houses nearest to my parents property have been bought and rented out. The people living in these houses insist on parking on my parents' road. My father asked them to move, but just got a mouth of abuse from them. He contacted the agency that arranged the lettings, but they said that as they had no contract to maintain the houses (they purely acted as letting agents) it was nothing to do with them. He does not know the names of the tenants or the name of the properties owners.
Two people who live in the cul-de-sac have now complained to my father as it is getting increasingly difficult for them to access their properties as the parked cars are causing a nuisance in what is a quite narrow access road. My Father has a legal obligation to ensure that there is clear access for everyone in their close. One household was waiting for a furniture delivery, but the van could not drive down to their house. Understandably they were furious.
My Father has spoken to the Neighbourhood Policeman, but he said that as it is a private road it is a 'grey area' as to what the police can do.
My parents are worried sick about all this, they have lived happily in their house for over 30 years and don't want to fall out with anyone. Can anyone give us any advice?

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Old 09-09-2010, 14:50
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I used to live in a private road where people who didn't live there used to park. It was partly resolved by getting a clamping firm engaged (though they were disengaged after a while but the notices remained).
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Old 09-09-2010, 14:54
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It may be worth getting a copy of the land registry documents and finding out who owns the properties that are being inconsiderate and letting the owner know about it.
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Old 09-09-2010, 15:10
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The drivers are trespassing on private land. If there aren't warning signs then I suggest you get some made and have them put up on the road. Then write a letter advising them that they're trespassing and that you are legally entitled to take reasonable steps to have them removed. This includes having the cars towed away and/or obtaining a court injunction. Then find a local company that will provide the towing service and speak to a solicitor about filing the court papers.

Hopefully just the signs and the letter will stop it. I suggest the letter come from a solicitor as it shows that you're serious and it's not an empty threat.

You should also talk again to the letting agents and demand the name of the landlord(s) and his address details so that a copy of the letter can be served on him(them) as well.
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Old 09-09-2010, 16:52
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Thanks for your advice.
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Old 09-09-2010, 16:56
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another agreement here , you may find that signs alone may be enough of a detterent , if not , then get the clampers in , just use a reputable company , not cowboys
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:12
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Is there any chance that the local council will impose a residents only parking restriction on the road? It might be worth speaking to the local councillor for the area, he should be able to give you some advice on how to do this.
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:34
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You can get details of the property owner direct from the Land Registry for a fee of 4

http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:35
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If your parents have the time and patience and find the signs aren't working then this next step might work -

If they have access to 2 cars, park bumper to bumper with the rogue car blocking them in, when they come and ask for the cars to be moved it's up to your parents how they play it.

I'd also recommend putting 'Private parking, (with an hourly rate)' on the sign.

As you may have guessed I have experience of this....
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:38
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Is there any chance that the local council will impose a residents only parking restriction on the road? It might be worth speaking to the local councillor for the area, he should be able to give you some advice on how to do this.
not possible on privately owned land. The restriction would be covered by road traffic legislation which does not apply off public roads.

Even employing a private parking agency/clamping firm would be difficult as there is growing knowledge their charges are not enforceable.

Signs may well do the trick and are perfectly fine to put up *anyway* - enforcement of clamping signs is quite stringently legislated, even on private land, though if you do not enforce it by ticketing or clamping and the signs are just there then casual visitors will probably be deterred - people who know you are not going to do it will just carry on, though.

The only line you can follow is trespass, really.
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:38
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Is there any chance that the local council will impose a residents only parking restriction on the road? It might be worth speaking to the local councillor for the area, he should be able to give you some advice on how to do this.
the council wont want to know due to the fact the road is nothing to do with them , best first idea is signs to try nd discourage , if that fails then get them towed away , or maybe as said above blocked in with two cars that are worth nothing
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Old 09-09-2010, 19:42
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the council wont want to know due to the fact the road is nothing to do with them , best first idea is signs to try nd discourage , if that fails then get them towed away , or maybe as said above blocked in with two cars that are worth nothing
No need for that, if you're touching their bumper on either side they won't even attempt to move theirs.
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Old 09-09-2010, 21:36
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A solution for a few hundred quid--what about a gate across the road with 1/2 a dozen keys handed out for the householders? delivery drivers can still get through by pulling up next to the gate, and walking up to knock on the house door that they want. I would seriously consider this in your Parents shoes.
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:07
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A solution for a few hundred quid--what about a gate across the road with 1/2 a dozen keys handed out for the householders? delivery drivers can still get through by pulling up next to the gate, and walking up to knock on the house door that they want. I would seriously consider this in your Parents shoes.

What about access for emergency services like Ambulances or the Fire Brigade where every second lost is a potential life lost?

The last thing you'd want is to have one of these waiting at the gate for someone to open it whilst someone is dying or a house is being burnt down.
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:09
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A solution for a few hundred quid--what about a gate across the road with 1/2 a dozen keys handed out for the householders? delivery drivers can still get through by pulling up next to the gate, and walking up to knock on the house door that they want. I would seriously consider this in your Parents shoes.
It is other residents off the private road that are causing the problem though. You can't lock them out of getting to their house.

Presumably, all other houses that are accessed from the private road have rights of access.
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:11
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Thats why they will have a key on their key ring. Read my post!
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:12
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Thats why they will have a key on their key ring. Read my post!
So how would that stop them parking on the private road you are suggesting they gate?

If they have a key to the gates, they can still access it and park on it.
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:36
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So how would that stop them parking on the private road you are suggesting they gate?

If they have a key to the gates, they can still access it and park on it.
If I understand the OP correctly, the cars being parked on the private road belong to residents in the houses in the main street that happen to be closest to the OP's parents house. There is a residents' parking area provided at the other end of the street for the terraced houses.

It's the people being lazy and parking their cars on the private road rather than park them in the provided parking spaces because the spaces are at the other end of the street!
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:44
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If I understand the OP correctly, the cars being parked on the private road belong to residents in the houses in the main street that happen to be closest to the OP's parents house. There is a residents' parking area provided at the other end of the street for the terraced houses.

It's the people being lazy and parking their cars on the private road rather than park them in the provided parking spaces because the spaces are at the other end of the street!
Ahh, I see. I thought the op meant the people causing the problem were ones that lived in one of the houses off the private road.

I get you now, ianradioian. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It is a good ides asides from the emergency services point.
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Old 09-09-2010, 22:50
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Ahh, I see. I thought the op meant the people causing the problem were ones that lived in one of the houses off the private road.

I get you now, ianradioian. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It is a good ides asides from the emergency services point.

So it's hardly a good idea then is it?
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Old 10-09-2010, 10:00
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Ahh, I see. I thought the op meant the people causing the problem were ones that lived in one of the houses off the private road.

I get you now, ianradioian. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It is a good ides asides from the emergency services point.
I live in a block of flats with an electronic gate and there's a small slot by the fob panel for fire brigade keys, so if you go to a reputable company for the gate, they will make sure that the fire brigade will be able to open it.

I would imagine (I don't actually know though) that it's probably the law to give access to the emergency services anyway.
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Old 10-09-2010, 10:08
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I wonder if anyone can advise on how I can sort out a problem for my parents who are both in their 70's as easily as possible. They are the sole owners of a private road which provides access for six houses in a cul-de-sac. They live in the house nearest the public road. Round the corner from them is a row of terraced houses, which has its own parking area at the far end of the row. Recently the two houses nearest to my parents property have been bought and rented out. The people living in these houses insist on parking on my parents' road. My father asked them to move, but just got a mouth of abuse from them. He contacted the agency that arranged the lettings, but they said that as they had no contract to maintain the houses (they purely acted as letting agents) it was nothing to do with them. He does not know the names of the tenants or the name of the properties owners.
Two people who live in the cul-de-sac have now complained to my father as it is getting increasingly difficult for them to access their properties as the parked cars are causing a nuisance in what is a quite narrow access road. My Father has a legal obligation to ensure that there is clear access for everyone in their close. One household was waiting for a furniture delivery, but the van could not drive down to their house. Understandably they were furious.
My Father has spoken to the Neighbourhood Policeman, but he said that as it is a private road it is a 'grey area' as to what the police can do.
My parents are worried sick about all this, they have lived happily in their house for over 30 years and don't want to fall out with anyone. Can anyone give us any advice?

Thanks
I think the cheapest and safest way out of it, is to call in the clampers, I don't like them but this is an occasion when they'd be doing a service.

A more expensive solution would be to put gates up if it is physically possible and give all of the people in the road keys.

To find the owners you can go to the land registry office and pay around a tenner and they'll copy you off some documents identifying the owners. But I don't think that will help you because it is not the house owners responsibility to check where their tenants park.
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:29
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Start putting down tacks on the area that they park on.
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:32
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Start putting down tacks on the area that they park on.
That's awful advice.


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Old 10-09-2010, 13:44
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I live in a block of flats with an electronic gate and there's a small slot by the fob panel for fire brigade keys, so if you go to a reputable company for the gate, they will make sure that the fire brigade will be able to open it.

I would imagine (I don't actually know though) that it's probably the law to give access to the emergency services anyway.
Yes that what's used where I live too. The emergency services have a fob that opens the gate. I thought it was the law. Maybe not though.
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