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Will Alesha speak proper this time ?
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Paace
11-09-2010
BuddyBontheNet: I'm not questioning anyone's pronunciation or accent .

yelsel: If such a glaring mistake in grammar was pointed out to you surely you would correct it, especially when you have been made a judge with millions listening to your every word, telling others where they are going wrong.

Anyway Alesha was such an excellent pupil in learning to dance I'm sure she will have corrected her grammar for this series.
Philly1234
11-09-2010
Using bad grammar is one thing, speaking colloquially is another. I believe Alesha does the latter. Len does the same thing.
dancingfan
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by FunkyFoxtrot:
“I'm still hoping in vain that Alesha will do us all a favour and not bother showing up at all! Well i can dream can't i?”

you and me both - I just want a decent judge - Alesha lovely contesant - awful judge - the only woman on the panel lacks experience and expertise and is referred Bruce as "Alesha my love" - let's go back to the 1970s - she does not get why some people are cheesed off
Caramel Crunch
11-09-2010
I V+ the show now & fast forward Brucie & Alesha's bits.
petertard
11-09-2010
"You was" or "you were": that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to speak proper,
Or to speak any old how.

What will she say tonight ? Eager anticipation.
Helbrown
11-09-2010
I don't care how she speaks - we always FF her in our house because her views are totally pointless.

Not looking forward to this series half as much as the others. Favourite dancers gone and replaced by too many newcomers, Alesha back, and some old crocks in the celebrities. What are they playing at?
BuddyBontheNet
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“Here endeth the first lesson. Tune in next week for "My mate Moses"”

Sorry, but this particular subject is starting to get on my nerves big time.

If people stopped to think about what they are actually saying, they might realise that they are criticising Alesha's ethnicity because she sometimes speaks colloquially - just like millions of people in this county, irrespective of whether they were born in the UK or not. What does that say then?

Yes, it may be bad grammar as far as 'proper' Engish is concerned, but does it matter if the point she is making is perfectly clear? Do we not want people from all parts of our society to be on TV, because their grammar doesn't come up to scratch for some viewers or listeners?

Originally Posted by Paace:
“BuddyBontheNet: I'm not questioning anyone's pronunciation or accent.”

No, you are not. But you are questioning the way someone speaks because it is different from the way you speak or how you want to hear someone speak. Sorry, but that still doesn't make you right.

Originally Posted by Philly1234:
“Using bad grammar is one thing, speaking colloquially is another. I believe Alesha does the latter. Len does the same thing.”

Precisely.
dancingfan
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Sorry, but this particular subject is starting to get on my nerves big time.

If people stopped to think about what they are actually saying, they might realise that they are criticising Alesha's ethnicity because she sometimes speaks colloquially - just like millions of people in this county, irrespective of whether they were born in the UK or not. What does that say then?

Yes, it may be bad grammar as far as 'proper' Engish is concerned, but does it matter if the point she is making is perfectly clear? Do we not want people from all parts of our society to be on TV, because their grammar doesn't come up to scratch for some viewers or listeners?



No, you are not. But you are questioning the way someone speaks because it is different from the way you speak or how you want to hear someone speak. Sorry, but that still doesn't make you right.



Precisely.”

In her defence Alesha is not alone in her incorrect use of "you was" Louise Rednapp and James Jordan are guilty of it too- I do think it is sloppy especially when they are appearing on tv and being well paid
lynxmale
11-09-2010
People are probably offended by the concordance of her lack of deep expertise in dance partnered with her slovenly approach to the english language. With due respect to BuddyB and Moses of course
It's ironic because I used to find Arlene so scripted, but behind the asinine alliterations she did have real expertise and a chemistry with the panel. Now what we have is Alesha and Bruno, the muppet show.
BuddyBontheNet
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“People are probably offended by the concordance of her lack of deep expertise in dance partnered with her slovenly approach to the english language. With due respect to BuddyB and Moses of course
It's ironic because I used to find Arlene so scripted, but behind the asinine alliterations she did have real expertise and a chemistry with the panel. Now what we have is Alesha and Bruno, the muppet show.”

I completely understand people not liking Alesha as a judge (she wouldn't have been my first choice, but give me Alesha over Arlene any day though), but the singling her out because of how she speaks has been going on so long now, it is annoying the hell out of me.

PS I do struggle to type short posts!
lynxmale
11-09-2010
And I struggle to type anything that does not take the michael. But the world of celebrity is a gift that keeps on giving.
BuddyBontheNet
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“And I struggle to type anything that does not take the michael. But the world of celebrity is a gift that keeps on giving.”

I have broad shoulders and am very gullible!
zankoku87
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Sorry, but this particular subject is starting to get on my nerves big time.

If people stopped to think about what they are actually saying, they might realise that they are criticising Alesha's ethnicity because she sometimes speaks colloquially - just like millions of people in this county, irrespective of whether they were born in the UK or not. What does that say then?

Yes, it may be bad grammar as far as 'proper' Engish is concerned, but does it matter if the point she is making is perfectly clear? Do we not want people from all parts of our society to be on TV, because their grammar doesn't come up to scratch for some viewers or listeners?



No, you are not. But you are questioning the way someone speaks because it is different from the way you speak or how you want to hear someone speak. Sorry, but that still doesn't make you right.



Precisely.”

I'm afraid I'm coming at this from a slightly different point of view, Buddy! Obviously incorrect grammar (as opposed to less obvious mistakes) does annoy me generally - although I don't think Strictly is so formal a situation that it matters greatly. My major issue is the fact that so many seem to want to criticise Alesha and Alesha only, when she is by no means the only culprit!
BuddyBontheNet
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“I'm afraid I'm coming at this from a slightly different point of view, Buddy! Obviously incorrect grammar (as opposed to less obvious mistakes) does annoy me generally - although I don't think Strictly is so formal a situation that it matters greatly. My major issue is the fact that so many seem to want to criticise Alesha and Alesha only, when she is by no means the only culprit!”

I do agree with you Zan and did mention that Alesha is being singled out in replying to lynxmale. I don't like bad grammar either, but on a show like SCD it isn't important to me. Mind you even if it was something like Newsnight or Question Time, I'd probably still be more interested on what someone had to say than their grammar. That's life.
zankoku87
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I do agree with you Zan and did mention that Alesha is being singled out in replying to lynxmale. I don't like bad grammar either, but on a show like SCD it isn't important to me. Mind you even if it was something like Newsnight or Question Time, I'd probably still be more interested on what someone had to say than their grammar. That's life. ”

Yes - but I think I'd find it a lot more distracting on Newsnight/QT! As I say, I think Strictly's informal enough a programme that it doesn't really matter too much at all.
DeeLush
11-09-2010
I used to love Alesha before she was on strictly and only actually started watching it from the series she was on, i know from her career shes trained as dancer when younger and obviously has the experince from winning, they have 2 "on point" judges in Len and Bruno for technical ability? and Craig for "showmanship" rather than technical ability?..please feel free to correct me if I've gotten Craig and Bruno the wrong way round or if all three are technical experts...

so why not Alesha for general comments, particularly as she's "been there done that" (as a contestant) and the other three haven't...don't really understand the dislike for her myself although her laugh has gotten somewhat fake and annoying..
softie
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by Helbrown:
“I don't care how she speaks - we always FF her in our house because her views are totally pointless.

Not looking forward to this series half as much as the others. Favourite dancers gone and replaced by too many newcomers, Alesha back, and some old crocks in the celebrities. What are they playing at?”

I agree - too many changes - too many of my favourite professionals gone - Alesha returning to continue beng "pretendee" judge Bruno still there

I disagree about the contestants though (though the thought of Paul Daniels dancing ) I think it will be interesting
DeeLush
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by softie:
“I agree - too many changes - too many of my favourite professionals gone - Alesha returning to continue beng "pretendee" judge Bruno still there

I disagree about the contestants though (though the thought of Paul Daniels dancing ) I think it will be interesting”

I really liked Brian and was shocked he was moved aside and left and also Matthew..
zankoku87
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by DeeLush:
“I used to love Alesha before she was on strictly and only actually started watching it from the series she was on, i know from her career shes trained as dancer when younger and obviously has the experince from winning, they have 2 "on point" judges in Len and Bruno for technical ability? and Craig for "showmanship" rather than technical ability?..please feel free to correct me if I've gotten Craig and Bruno the wrong way round or if all three are technical experts...

so why not Alesha for general comments, particularly as she's "been there done that" (as a contestant) and the other three haven't...don't really understand the dislike for her myself although her laugh has gotten somewhat fake and annoying..”

Len's an actual ballroom judge, Craig and Bruno are both choreographers (as is Arlene).
Last edited by zankoku87 : 11-09-2010 at 12:28
ewoodie
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by Philly1234:
“Using bad grammar is one thing, speaking colloquially is another. I believe Alesha does the latter. Len does the same thing.”

That's a great point!!! I think you could be right. Maybe the phrases used by Alesha and others are colloquialisms and have attracted attention as they are examples of bad grammar.
DeeLush
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Len's an actual ballroom judge, Craig and Bruno are both choreographers (as is Arlene). ”

Thanks, wasnt sure
BuddyBontheNet
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by zankoku87:
“Yes - but I think I'd find it a lot more distracting on Newsnight/QT! As I say, I think Strictly's informal enough a programme that it doesn't really matter too much at all.”

For sure!

Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“That's a great point!!! I think you could be right. Maybe the phrases used by Alesha and others are colloquialisms and have attracted attention as they are examples of bad grammar.”

Yes!
Philly1234
11-09-2010
I'm sure all the judges will give us many reasons to hate them, as they do every year. As did Arlene. If they don't, I'll pickle me walnuts.
librarygirl
11-09-2010
Originally Posted by Helbrown:
“I don't care how she speaks - we always FF her in our house because her views are totally pointless.

Not looking forward to this series half as much as the others. Favourite dancers gone and replaced by too many newcomers, Alesha back, and some old crocks in the celebrities. What are they playing at?”

I agree with all your points, I watch the show but mute all of Alesha's comments, I find that way I can enjoy the programme more.


At this point I am usually very excited about a new series of Strictly, never thought they'd be able to curb my enthusiasm but the BBC's daft decisions have done that this year.
lynxmale
11-09-2010
She's started already. She said "couplins"! She only had two sentences!
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