Victor and Marco were up having one of there regular late night chats last night on BB live & he said now that this new housemate has come in to the house he would have rather had Emma back in. He realises she did not deserve to go afer a week of thinking, because she did a lot of work to get in to BB. I quite enjoy Victor's and Marco's lat night chats i think that is thr real Victor and the fake one is hanging round with Jay hopefully.

anyone else see this chat it was quite intreasting the things they were saying about the new housemate to.

Has the DS machinery started shuffling words in thread titles?

I think Victor wants Marco "a.k.a Gollum, a.k.a. seal boy" out as soon as possible, doesn't he? I assume this is part of his gameplan to get him onside and avoid a nomination from him.

Most have LOL that is not the topic title i wrote

He`s just game-playing yet again. Trying to prevent Marco from nominating him today. Just like he`s coming across less "hard" in the DR........covering himself in case he gets nominated and showing the GBP that he does have a heart after all. I wouldn`t give him my last Rolo.

Oh come on Mr Slick is transparent! He was just playing with Marco's head.... it's obvious that he feels threatened by the harem and he was just telling Marco what he wanted to hear.

What did they say about Becki?

what a move hope marco saw through it! Victor has been sucking up to everyone all week game playing (well thats BB)

Mental Image of the Day:

Marco and Dan sitting with their heads three inches apart, and Victor furiously turning Marco's arm in the style of a Van der Graaf generator.

Spark! Dammit! Spark!

There's no doubt that Victor is working Marco during their late night chats and possibly vice versa but there are a few glimpses of sincerety in there and I love listening to them. They're a lot more similar than appearance or attitude would suggest. Both are reality TV heads and unlike so many HMs past and present, both are proud to admit it. One thing Victor repeats often is that this is not personal to him. Whether that means he likes them all or doesn't care about any of them is up for debate.

The only time I think we've seen Victor being totally honest is last night in the diary room. Whether his plan is working or not, he seems happy to stick with it but he was not expecting the booing on Friday and his expression in the chair showed that.

In truth, Victor is probably a mixture of everything we've seen. Thoughtful, arrogant, compassionate, conceited, vulnerable, aggresive. Much the same any one of us would be if we were scrutinised to that extent.

Get her out of here, let's get this game on.

...or words to that effect.

That she is there for a reason, that they thought she was there for the 100K shag money and that there might be a task rigged for her to win so she should choose someone... (possibly Stu or Jay ) to spend the night with her in secret room

Is it okay if I ask......." Is Victor a dark horse"?

I don't think he's so much a dark horse as viande de cheval.

I'm prepared to believe Victor genuinely feels bad about Emma's dismissal.

So he won't mind when he gets the push then.

More like Ron Horse.

rofl now he wouild make a good surprise late entering housemate.

Victor's told us what his game plan is. Towards the end of the week he's nice to people so that they don't nominate him. Jason's trying the same thing - telling Shell he's said 'bad' things about her in the diary room.

Well he would wouldn't he the night before the nominations. Vic is trying to cover as much of his errors as possible.

Ron Horse? Nooooo...he's so boring, lol - I have to put the sound off when he appears on the screen.

Back on topic, I don't think Victor's sorry that Emma was booted out - after all, he did say "Result!" the night it happened. He is just trying to stop Marco nominating him...and it'll fail.

Yes, but will Marco acknowledge he started the whole thing? I don't think so. He admitted to goading Jason which is not quite the same thing. Emma was the sacrificial goat for all [guilty] parties concerned.

It's real simple.

Tuesday to Saturday - Victor has no time for Marco, Nadia or Michelle and wants them all out with immediate effect.

Sunday to Monday - Victor has all the time in the world for Marco, Nadia and Michelle and even says he feels sorry for Emma (Marco and Nadia's best friend in the house) on the eve of nominations.

Forget all this madness about Victor is being genuine and really is sorry Emma had to leave, it's all rubbish. Victor has even confirmed to Big Brother this is his strategy.

This particular week he knows he's under huge threat of being nominated, especially by these particular housemates. All he's doing is working them over in an attempt to divert their nominations elsewhere.

And what was Michelle doing with Nadia and Marco the other night when she was talking Jason/nominations?

They're all at it, it's just that some do it more than others.

Nowhere in my post did I say otherwise. In fact, I think it's quite amusing Victor is doing it so blatantly. His Diary Room conversations of the subject are hillarious.