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Victor admits he feels bad about Emma leaving to Marco last night!
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turnip
28-06-2004
the seals were deadful that night, but the actual toe to toe stuff was firstly jays fault, and then vics fault. vic started the head to head stuff with emma that night. he also got her upset at the table when she was walking away. And he kept going back for more when going to the DR, although her "black guy" comment was a catalyst then, as well as the spitting (which probably got her chucked out).

she said he spat (in the papers) but it looked like her spitting to me.

In the end he let a 20 year girl get to him so bad he didnt think he could live in the same house as her, although I don`t think I have seen a girl so "in your face" when she should be frightened.
neverwhere
28-06-2004
Originally Posted by turnip:
“In the end he let a 20 year girl get to him so bad he didnt think he could live in the same house as her, although I don`t think I have seen a girl so "in your face" when she should be frightened.”

This is exactly the reason why Victor exploded so furiously... he just couldn't handle the fact that the smallest girl in the house was not afraid of his intimidation, and that she was prepared to stand up to him. His image was being ruined on national television by this little girl.

Victor quite often said that Emma would get hurt one day if she keeps standing up to "guys like him" in the outside world.

Emma should have just stood her ground instead of fighting back, that would have driven him crazy to the point of attempting to take a swing at her, and *he'd* be the one being marched out to the police.
SULLA
28-06-2004
IF he can play the game so well that the others do not nominate him, then best of luck to him........ well played.
Inspiration
28-06-2004
Well Victor admitted a good week or so ago that he felt no one should leave BB via the "back door", and he felt sorry for her that this had happened.
hareem mistress
28-06-2004
sorry i just dont buy it. He is playing for sympathy now, and trying to get around Marco using the Emma card. Funny how its took him nearly 2 wks and just before nominations to say this. I just dont buy it one bit

Get the jungle prats out of there, not so much tigers but scabby flea in fested moggies
Hetty Harelip
28-06-2004
Originally Posted by JonDoe:
“There's no doubt that Victor is working Marco during their late night chats and possibly vice versa but there are a few glimpses of sincerety in there and I love listening to them. They're a lot more similar than appearance or attitude would suggest. Both are reality TV heads and unlike so many HMs past and present, both are proud to admit it. One thing Victor repeats often is that this is not personal to him. Whether that means he likes them all or doesn't care about any of them is up for debate.

The only time I think we've seen Victor being totally honest is last night in the diary room. Whether his plan is working or not, he seems happy to stick with it but he was not expecting the booing on Friday and his expression in the chair showed that.

In truth, Victor is probably a mixture of everything we've seen. Thoughtful, arrogant, compassionate, conceited, vulnerable, aggresive. Much the same any one of us would be if we were scrutinised to that extent.”

You are quite correct. Both are vacuous, though Victor is the more accomplished and imaginative liar, weaving his education, domestic and social life into the tissue of lies he has spun not altogether competently. However, his macho act is just that - an act - which he will never perform at the Globe.
As for the sincerity in which the lies they told each other last night were couched, whom do you think they'll vote come nomination time? In essence, nothing has changed. These two idiots are quite incompatible. If Marco does not vote for Victor this week, it will be because he has voted for Jason and Ahmed and has postponed Victor's nomination to next week. Victor, in turn, is almost certain to nominate Nadia and Marco. And who can blame him?
wrat
28-06-2004
Marco and Victor had a late-night conversation just before the last nominations too. Hard to say who is manipulating whom but interesting that last time they both ended up nominating Daniel and Vanessa. Of course a lot has changed since then.
kattymieoww
28-06-2004
Ah but those boys came together in a chicken nugget love fest,with lots of sauce.
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