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14-09-2010, 22:53
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Thinking Of Getting BT Vision
I have had enough of paying for an inferior service from Sky for their HD, and don't want VM or TUTV. Is BTVision any god?
With them getting Sky Sports, (not bothered about that though), do you think they will get other pay channels and eventually do a pay tv by del? Constructive comment are appreciated as don't want to get off topic. Cheers? |
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14-09-2010, 22:55
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If you want to pay for yesterdays TV then its the best service out there.
Its basically freeview with on demand |
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14-09-2010, 23:05
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I have had enough of paying for an inferior service from Sky for their HD, and don't want VM or TUTV. Is BTVision any god?
With them getting Sky Sports, (not bothered about that though), do you think they will get other pay channels and eventually do a pay tv by del? Constructive comment are appreciated as don't want to get off topic. Cheers? When you ask will they get other pay channels, what do you actually mean? And what are you actually looking for? |
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15-09-2010, 08:04
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No HD on BTV apart from a few films that you have to download before you watch.
Their new box when it is available is suppose to be compatible with Freeview HD, not that I think Freeview HD will be much cop, nothing to do with BTV that, just that I can't see how they can fit HD channels in the limited space without compressing like hell. i expect more content will be added and they may have more channels, there was talk about it, but, I can't see them having over Pay services from other providers. Before you jump, make a list of what you want, how much you want to pay for it and then compare Sky with BTV. Look at content, content for BTV is here If you have not got Bt broadband, then you will have to get that. If I could get cable I would go for that, why don't you want to go with VM? The one good thing about BTV is that you can watch what you like as long as it is on their system when you like, the problem with sky is that at midnight most of the channels close down. What ever you decide, good luck |
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15-09-2010, 10:58
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TBH, the stuff we mainly watch is the More4 / E4, BBC3, Dave, and Virgin1 stuff anyway. I had VM for a few years but not value for money, and had poor service.
I missed the On Demand stuff, and Sky are still not giving a date, plus they said that they want you to take their home phone and BB package, and, preferably the movies package, which, I don't want to do as happy with BT. Also, I subscribe to Lovefilm as get the stuff I WANT to watch, not some movies I have never heard off that are not even in true HD. I know the BB can be expensive, but to be fai, have had it in the past, and was happy with the speeds, plus, they have said the Infinity product is coming to our exchange in early december. BT Vision sounds good as it is more the ondemand stuff in terms of TV I want, knowing if I miss the show due to not recording, that I can get the 7 day catch up, like VM offer. |
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15-09-2010, 11:34
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BT Vision sounds good as it is more the ondemand stuff in terms of TV I want, knowing if I miss the show due to not recording, that I can get the 7 day catch up, like VM offer.
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15-09-2010, 13:19
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But you can get all that for only the price of a HDMI, DVI or SVGA cable from your PC to your TV.
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15-09-2010, 13:34
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I have Apple TV, but don't really want to buy the odd episode if I have missed a show.
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15-09-2010, 13:42
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Vision is good. The catch up service is good. The TV pack is reasonable - depends on whether or not you can find something. I like it.
It may not be HD for On Demand but the picture quality is good. Freeview - on the main channels I find the picture quality to be better than my Sony's internal tuner. Vision also upscales to 1080i. This is not proper HD but the box "scales up" the picture to a higher resolution. I think it works well. If you have BT Broadband - you may as well try it out if you can get a free box or one for £50. There's a guy called Steve on this forum who (I think) works for the Vision Sales team. He might be able to help you out. |
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15-09-2010, 13:56
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As I said, want the choice of the channels I watch, with OnDemand, so that I have the option to record, and catch up. Apple TV, along with ITunes is amazing, but ITunes still does not have stuff that I may have missed.
Also, if, I am buying TV shows from ITunes, I buy either a series pass, or purchase the who season in one go, (like I did with Doctor Who season 5). |
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15-09-2010, 18:13
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Vision is good. The catch up service is good.
If you have BT Broadband - you may as well try it out if you can get a free box or one for £50. There's a guy called Steve on this forum who (I think) works for the Vision Sales team. He might be able to help you out. |
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15-09-2010, 20:38
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TBH, the stuff we mainly watch is the More4 / E4, BBC3, Dave, and Virgin1 stuff anyway. I had VM for a few years but not value for money, and had poor service.
BTV lowest price is around £15 now or something like that, seems like better value for money, but sadly the content is older than what sky have. Ok, I know you can just by the BTV box and pay as you watch. Had a quick look at Virgin, you do seem to get more for your money. TUTV is something i would like if there was more choice and the box was better. Quote:
I missed the On Demand stuff, and Sky are still not giving a date, plus they said that they want you to take their home phone and BB package, and, preferably the movies package, which, I don't want to do as happy with BT. Also, I subscribe to Lovefilm as get the stuff I WANT to watch, not some movies I have never heard off that are not even in true HD.
If I did not have the broadband service I have now, I would no doubt have gone to Sky broadband, not sure if I would bother with Sky T.v mind you. Had enough of Bt and their so called great broadband. Quote:
I know the BB can be expensive, but to be fai, have had it in the past, and was happy with the speeds, plus, they have said the Infinity product is coming to our exchange in early december.
Good luck, I hope it works out for you, I got very little faith in Bt now, after seeing how they have mucked my mate around and can't even find what the problem is.Also, I hope they don't shape you too much if they think you are using too much. Quote:
BT Vision sounds good as it is more the ondemand stuff in terms of TV I want, knowing if I miss the show due to not recording, that I can get the 7 day catch up, like VM offer.
It does sound good, just a shame it don't live up to how it sounds.
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16-09-2010, 10:42
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TBH, I don't really think any of them is value for money. Sky lowest price is £19 a month and for that you get a few channels with loads of old stuff on.
BTV lowest price is around £15 now or something like that, seems like better value for money, but sadly the content is older than what sky have. Ok, I know you can just by the BTV box and pay as you watch. Bronze @ £14.99 p/m TV Pack and TV Replay @ £9.98. Bronze is good value as you get ESPN included. |
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16-09-2010, 11:04
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I have had enough of paying for an inferior service from Sky for their HD, and don't want VM or TUTV. Is BTVision any god?
With them getting Sky Sports, (not bothered about that though), do you think they will get other pay channels and eventually do a pay tv by del? Constructive comment are appreciated as don't want to get off topic. Cheers? Also, linking your PC up to your TV is not a good option, online stuff is not subject to QOS and thus can re-buffer, freeze or compeltely stop at any time - plus the quality is not as good. People's PC's don't tend to be in the same room as the TV anyway - that's if you can configure your grpahics card correctly lol !!. None of the on-demand content has adverts either (including ITV, C4 & C5 content) so you're not paying to watch adverts like you are with Sky. If you have any questions then fire away - people who actually currently have BTVision will be more than glad to help. |
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16-09-2010, 11:23
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I like the service and the concept of on-demand straight to your tv (upscaled to 1080i or 760p) is very good. I use it mainly for TV replay and BTVision is the only place where you can get catch up content from all 5 main terrestrial channels. I've just bought a new 46" TV and I'm really surprised how good the on demand picture is on this bigger TV as I really thought it would suffer. They must have improved this as i'm sure it wasnt this good.
Also, linking your PC up to your TV is not a good option, online stuff is not subject to QOS and thus can re-buffer, freeze or compeltely stop at any time - plus the quality is not as good. People's PC's don't tend to be in the same room as the TV anyway - that's if you can configure your grpahics card correctly lol !!. Quote:
None of the on-demand content has adverts either (including ITV, C4 & C5 content) so you're not paying to watch adverts like you are with Sky.
If you have any questions then fire away - people who actually currently have BTVision will be more than glad to help. |
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16-09-2010, 12:19
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I like the service and the concept of on-demand straight to your tv (upscaled to 1080i or 760p) is very good. I use it mainly for TV replay and BTVision is the only place where you can get catch up content from all 5 main terrestrial channels. I've just bought a new 46" TV and I'm really surprised how good the on demand picture is on this bigger TV as I really thought it would suffer. They must have improved this as i'm sure it wasnt this good. Yes, webber's right. The quality of the on-demand picture is very good. I don't know how, I don't know why, but the on-demand picture quality is far superior to that of watching normal Freeview. And as for the quality of the service, hell, you wouldn't even realise you were watching TV over the internet! Vision comes highly reccomended by CNET and Techradar, to name but a few. |
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16-09-2010, 12:43
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Linking your PC to your TV is a brilliant option. Although I agree that QoS can be an issue for those with poor broadband services. But even when I was with BT I could view iPlayer / ITV player etc flawlessly (I had to, as my Vision Box was faulty so much). A 10m HDMI cable cost me a few quid and needed no configuration at all. Simples.
People who've moved on because it's rubbish will be too.  All that for dodgy quality VOD and adverts - no thanks :yawn: |
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16-09-2010, 13:32
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I like the service and the concept of on-demand straight to your tv (upscaled to 1080i or 760p) is very good. I use it mainly for TV replay and BTVision is the only place where you can get catch up content from all 5 main terrestrial channels. I've just bought a new 46" TV and I'm really surprised how good the on demand picture is on this bigger TV as I really thought it would suffer. They must have improved this as i'm sure it wasnt this good. Yes, webber's right. The quality of the on-demand picture is very good. I don't know how, I don't know why, but the on-demand picture quality is far superior to that of watching normal Freeview. And as for the quality of the service, hell, you wouldn't even realise you were watching TV over the internet! Vision comes highly reccomended by CNET and Techradar, to name but a few. 
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16-09-2010, 14:09
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Can you post the link to the CNET reviews? I found BTV on there, but most of the reviews seems negative
This review is for BTV 3 years ago. The review date is 31st May 2007. Since then the original Silver STB has had software fixes and performs better. Since then there is a new Black STB - this pretty much addresses most of the criticisms. It's more power efficient, faster to use and I have not had any crashes. Here is the What HiFi review on BT Vision V1. http://www.whathifi.com/Review/BT-Vision-V-Box/ |
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16-09-2010, 14:55
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How can having to get up and got to a different room everytime you want to pause, fast forward, rewind etc be labelled as a brilliant option ???. That's if you actually make it to your PC without tripping over the HDMI cable
All that for dodgy quality VOD and adverts - no thanks :yawn: You can roll your eyes as much as you like but connecting up your TV has many other advantages too; playback of stored media content, security systems, access to other online streaming content such as Youtube, JustinTV, Sopcast etc use as a picture frame, the list is huge. And do try to remember that not everyone is unable to run a cable properly.
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16-09-2010, 15:29
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Yes. I can see how that might be a struggle for you. But the OP wants 'catchup' services as a backup for when their PVR recordings fail. A few occasional adverts are a small price to pay for the absolute JOY that not having BT Vision brings.
You can roll your eyes as much as you like but connecting up your TV has many other advantages too; playback of stored media content, security systems, access to other online streaming content such as Youtube, JustinTV, Sopcast etc use as a picture frame, the list is huge. And do try to remember that not everyone is unable to run a cable properly. I have Apple TV and a mac so side is fine, it was BTV I wanted info on. |
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16-09-2010, 17:09
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I have Apple TV and a mac so side is fine, it was BTV I wanted info on.
For my part, I can't recommend BT Vision as it proved to be unreliable, unattractive and frustrating for me. However it does seem to be sufficient for some people, and they seem pleased with it. As you say you would be moving from Sky HD, you will likely find it all quite a shock. The content is rarely refreshed, and when it is, it's replaced with old (very old, by Sky standards) American TV series. HD content is next to non-existent and is expensive (you have to pay for it, no matter which subscription package you're on) and is only available for you to watch the day after you want to watch it because it has to be downloaded overnight. The other aspect is that in order to have BTV, yould need BT broadband too. This opens a whole new can of worms as it is very poor value. And if you think Sky's service is bad, just wait until you have to lock horns with BT's incomprehensible customer support (sic) team. Further pay TV channels are unlikely to appear as there is insufficient space on the digital terrestrial platform as it is currently. If they are to appear, it will most likely be on 'Canvas' (renamed YouView today) the launch date of which has still to be announced. When it is launched it will likely replace Vision, but again, you will need an above average network connection to get the best from it. If you really want to find out more about BTV you'd be better off reading independent reviews than asking here. We have a problem here with people trying to exlude free speech so that the manufacturer's line is toe'd. If they're allowed to have their way, you'll learn just as much from the BT website. At the end of the day it all comes down to your expectations. If you don't want much, BTV is ok, if expensive, when it works. Somehow as an Apple TV, Mac and Sky HD user, I expect you'll be expecting far more than BTV can deliver. Apart from that it's great. 
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16-09-2010, 17:34
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Had BT BB once before which was fine and only changed as got a staff deal at O2.
As for the BT CS, I have contacts VERY high up so not a problem. We only watch mostly freeview stuff so anything else we can get via lovefilm or catch up if we miss it. |
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16-09-2010, 17:35
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Techradar independent Vision review - March 2010 -
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/aud...-676125/review |
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16-09-2010, 17:41
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HD content is next to non-existent and is expensive (you have to pay for it, no matter which subscription package you're on) and is only available for you to watch the day after you want to watch it because it has to be downloaded overnight.
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The other aspect is that in order to have BTV, yould need BT broadband too.
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Sky are still not giving a date, plus they said that they want you to take their home phone and BB package, and, preferably the movies package, which, I don't want to do as happy with BT
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Further pay TV channels are unlikely to appear as there is insufficient space on the digital terrestrial platform as it is currently. If they are to appear, it will most likely be on 'Canvas' (renamed YouView today) the launch date of which has still to be announced. When it is launched it will likely replace Vision, but again, you will need an above average network connection to get the best from it.
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