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Do all auditionees make it to the stage?
Conall Cearnach
15-09-2010
This has probably been asked before but does everyone that turns up make it to the stage to perform in front of the judges or is there some sort of pre-selection? Do the judges really have to sit through thousands of auditions?
River_Tam
15-09-2010
there are several auditions in front of producers before the stage audition in front of the judges, it should make you wonder why, if it's a singing competition, some people get that far.
Conall Cearnach
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by River_Tam:
“there are several auditions in front of producers before the stage audition in front of the judges, it should make you wonder why, if it's a singing competition, some people get that far.”

Indeed seeing as how some of the contestants don't even know the words of the song they are supposed to be singing and others are just plain bad and not even in an entertaining way (like Jedward).
Eurostar
15-09-2010
Absolutely not : only a tiny amount of people get to audition in front of Cowell & Co....maybe 1000 or so.

When you see the amount of bad singers that are put through for entertainment value,it stands to reason that they took the place of strong singers,meaning in no way is it a credible talent search.
River_Tam
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Conall Cearnach:
“Indeed seeing as how some of the contestants don't even know the words of the song they are supposed to be singing and others are just plain bad and not even in an entertaining way (like Jedward).”



whatever
Eurostar
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Conall Cearnach:
“Indeed seeing as how some of the contestants don't even know the words of the song they are supposed to be singing and others are just plain bad and not even in an entertaining way (like Jedward).”

Many people would beg to differ : 45,000 people paying in to see Jedward on their first Irish tour suggests they *are* entertaining.

I don't think anyone would pay in to see the usual bad auditionees.
mary patricia
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Absolutely not : only a tiny amount of people get to audition in front of Cowell & Co....maybe 1000 or so.”

It's even less than that. For each audition day, they do two shows, with 20 contestants perfroming in each show. They did 13 (I think) audition days so that's 520 contestants. Considering you have 200,000 applying, you have very little chance of getting in front of the judges.
parsleyisfun
15-09-2010
It's the same with Britain's Got Talent auditions. In my audition group there were 10 people (there were loads and loads and loads of people there) and I went in fifth, and three of the four people who went in before me had absolutely amazing voices, and as far as I know, none of them got through - none of them were shown.
noorani
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by parsleyisfun:
“It's the same with Britain's Got Talent auditions. In my audition group there were 10 people (there were loads and loads and loads of people there) and I went in fifth, and three of the four people who went in before me had absolutely amazing voices, and as far as I know, none of them got through - none of them were shown.”

If x factor is like this as well, then I think I would prefer them to do two shows. One of serious singers, then a hotchpotch of the funny, terrible ones that didn't get anywhere. Give the serious people more of a chance. They could always have another winner for the worst, lol.
Eurostar
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by mary patricia:
“It's even less than that. For each audition day, they do two shows, with 20 contestants perfroming in each show. They did 13 (I think) audition days so that's 520 contestants. Considering you have 200,000 applying, you have very little chance of getting in front of the judges.”

When you consider the amount of bad singers they put through for entertainment puposes.it shows they are not remotely worried about potentially good singers slipping through the net.It's not really a talent search at all,just a Saturday night entertainment show.
spkx
15-09-2010
Of course they put bad singers through, otherwise the auditions would all be amazing and everyone would get yeses.

And the judges can't possibly sit through all the auditions, it'd take 3-4 years (and that's doing it 24/7)
Conall Cearnach
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Many people would beg to differ : 45,000 people paying in to see Jedward on their first Irish tour suggests they *are* entertaining.

I don't think anyone would pay in to see the usual bad auditionees.”

That's what I meant Jedward are pretty bad singers but strangely compelling and entertaining despite that. They were on The Late Late Show in Ireland a couple of weeks ago wearing Paul Stanley from Kiss makeup and were a hoot.
Eurostar
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Of course they put bad singers through, otherwise the auditions would all be amazing and everyone would get yeses.

And the judges can't possibly sit through all the auditions, it'd take 3-4 years (and that's doing it 24/7)”

Yes,but the sheer volume of bad auditionees and the fact that most of the ones that can sing appear to have a backstory tells us it is not a genuine talent search : it's very close to the Big Brother format in fact.....a popularity contest involving personalities.
River_Tam
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Conall Cearnach:
“That's what I meant Jedward are pretty bad singers but strangely compelling and entertaining despite that. They were on The Late Late Show in Ireland a couple of weeks ago wearing Paul Stanley from Kiss makeup and were a hoot.”

that's ok then

we'll go with passable singers
somerset fox
15-09-2010
It's just the editing of the programmes that 'implies' that the 10,000 people queing in those long carpark queues are all going to sing before the judges. It's reinforced when they pullout the odd person form the queue and feature a close-up 'this is so-and-so'.
InMyArms
15-09-2010
There are around 20 acts per audience, two audiences (around 40 acts) per audition day.

There were 12 audition days this year, 12 x 40 = 480 auditionees making it to see the judges.

(We were told we would see "around 20 acts" when I went, I assume it's the same for all audiences.)
Eurostar
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“There are around 20 acts per audience, two audiences (around 40 acts) per audition day.

There were 12 audition days this year, 12 x 40 = 480 auditionees making it to see the judges.

(We were told we would see "around 20 acts" when I went, I assume it's the same for all audiences.)”

What percentage of the ones you saw were "bad" or joke singers?
InMyArms
15-09-2010
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“What percentage of the ones you saw were "bad" or joke singers?”

~40%.
Magg2010
16-09-2010
So or how did they pick out Lloyd and Joe last year they didn't have backstories?
Eurostar
16-09-2010
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“~40%.”

Higher than the actual percentage of bad singers that must have auditioned then.Perhaps 10% of auditionees might be completely out of tune and offkey.It seems you have a statistically higher chance of getting to perform in front of the celebrity panel if you can't sing,than if you can.
Ethereal_Dusky
17-09-2010
I know someone who went to the first auditions and they turned her away because 'Your a great singer but sorry we have too many brunettes'
davedpg
17-09-2010
If you're a good singer, then it's probably worth pretending to be rubbish in front of the producers
leaby
17-09-2010
Originally Posted by davedpg:
“If you're a good singer, then it's probably worth pretending to be rubbish in front of the producers”

It probably is, though the judges would be confused when their notes say "bad singer, laugh and torment them" and someone comes on with a decent voice. I would love it if someone tried to do that. Course, you wouldn't be shown on TV, and the confusion would be cut if you were.

For the majority of people I speak to, they cite the auditions bit as their favourite part of the show for "the really bad people who are deluded that think they can sing." Truth is, the show misses out the part where the singers' attitudes are reinforced across the preliminary stages. As a result, I hate this part of the show. If they're self-aware of how bad they are, then that's even more tedious.
danni_1420
17-09-2010
I know a couple of people that auditioned and got to the second round of seeing the judges! They are both amazing and should have got through to see the judges.
tommygunner
17-09-2010
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“It seems you have a statistically higher chance of getting to perform in front of the celebrity panel if you can't sing,than if you can.”

Never seen it put so succinctly before but, yes, it stands to reason, doesn't it?
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