True, but essentially they are the same channel. Their schedules are pretty much identical and their news reports aren't hugely different.

I'm not saying he has never made a wrong decision in his life. I just meant that if this is true then he has obviously thought it through – he obviously know's her accent might be a problem and that she is relatively unknown over there – but he must have his reasons other wise he wouldn't hire her.

Anyway, even if it is true I can't imagine she'd be a reason for people not to tune in. If people don't watch it will be because they don't want to it won't be simply because of one judge.

Let me see if I can help you:

A 'manufactured' artist with little discernable talent
Does not write/produce/arrange her own material
Is not an accomplished musician
Is an average, rather stiff dancer
The sum of Girls Aloud is better than the individual components, a very average voice
Offers a poor, emotionally biased critique of X Factor acts as in "My Geordie Jaw", "He's like me little brother", "Aw My Jaw"
I think her 'talent' has been over hyped
A 'tabloid celebrity' rather than a 'credible artiste'

I would have thought a lot of the American audience watching that show would struggle with her strong northern accent. I've seen a few English guys (Northern) be subtitled even though they were speaking English

Since when is "credibility" a factor in "judging" "talent" on a light entertainment programme?

You obviously have not been watching American television. Looks, personality, and/or notoriety are the driving factors in casting decisions about presenters.

And the British preoccupation with accents simply does not exist here. Cheryl would be as understandable to most Americans as any number of their fellow citizens who speak in dozens of regional and urban dialects. Nor is there any association of diction with class origins.

Cheryl Cole entertains me, I tune into the X Factor every Saturday to see her and even though English is not my first language I understand her accent pretty well. There, I say it. There are people out there who likes her.

I think some on here are confusing their own feelings towards Cowell & Cole with the reality of things.

Cowell is a big star in the US regardless of what we think about him. He has made American Idol a success and then followed that up with America's Got Talent.

Was Piers Morgan a well known celebrity in the US before that show? I don't think so, but he is now.

There is no reason at all why Cowell can't make US XF work and by the same token he can sell the notion of Cheryl Cole to a US audience.

His track record in reality TV of this kind speaks for itself.

I think you are absolutely spot on. What's more, Simon has no reputation here of being an evil force placing a stranglehold on the music business, so that won't be an issue either.

Thanks

I get the animosity and anatgonism and post more than my fair share of negative posts about XF and at times Mr Cowell himself.

I watch the show and have done from the start and realistically, despite my reservations about the auditions so far this series, I will still be tuning in come the final

I am sure XF this series will storm the TV ratings each weekend and all that adds up to Success.

Syco productions makes money. A simple fact unfortunately.

and whether we like it or not, the truth is that right now Cheryl Cole sells

No ****, Sherlock.

No one on here says people can't like Cheryl. Whether you like her or not is no one's business. It just so happens that the majority of people on here tend to dislike Cheryl and love Dannii. That doesn't mean that no one dislikes Dannii or likes Cheryl.

Sorry, I'm new to the forums and I didn't know that. I'm not going to get into a war for "who's the most beloved person in the world". My point is that we don't know why ten million of people tune into the X-Factor every week, but if they do is because it entertains them and Cheryl Cole is part of that franchise whether we like her or not. So why can't she succeed in the States as well?

Actually, Piers Morgan had done numerous "ad ins" from a British perspective of numerous showbiz & political events for the Joan Rivers Show since the mid/late 1990s. So I would say he had a media profile in the USA prior to America's Got Talent that Cheryl Cole does not possess.

For me the biggest issue would be if Simon Cowell seriously thinks Cheryl is a better and more qualified selection as a judge for the American audience than a well known US female singer who was member formed from the US Reality version of Popstars to create a girlgroup (Eden's Crush), who then went on to be the lead singer of the Pussycat Dolls who was the only member of the group to contribute to songwriting their output; served as a celebrity judge for the 2009 series on NBC's reality singing competition, The Sing-Off; became the winner of the tenth season of Dancing with the Stars; and is the long time girlfriend of the 2008 F1 World Champion Lewis Hamilton.

Especially as when Simon Cowell had hired Nicole Scherzinger as a guest judge for season seven of the UK reality TV series The X Factor .... Louis Walsh praised Scherzinger saying "My favourite though was Nicole who I had never met before. This girl has the X Factor in every way. She just got it, was incredibly impressive and ticked every box." The host of the show, Dermot O'Leary also praised Scherzinger saying she was his favourite guest judge. "She was brilliant, tailor-made for it and hilarious too. We were all stunned by her beauty."

Therefore the USA already has their own, more qualified and arguably more talented version of Cheryl Cole, so if I was an American I would be rather irritated if she is passed over for some UK singer from a UK girl group I had never heard of who had previously had no success in the American market.

It's still expected that Nicole Scherzinger will join the panel. Either her or Katy Perry.

The people that don't like her don't watch the show because of her, so I don't really see your point with that

And you're looking at success very black and white. Being part of the US X Factor (assuming it is a success itself, it could flop), won't automatically make Cheryl a success there too. I also think it would be more damaging to her American career if the show is a success. No one over there knows who she is, so they'll question the reasons for her being there. If she wants success there it would be better for her to ease her way in, rather than jumping head first.

Well surely if both Nicole & Katy (who was part of the anonymous The Matrix songwriting team for nearly two years before her successful attempt at a solo career) have screen tested for the US version of X-Factor then surely they should both get a role leaving out Cheryl Cole to focus on being the "Nation's Sweetheart" in the UK and promote her second album in Europe.

My point is that there's a chance that she can sell The US X-Factor even if no one knows who she is. I didn't know who she was until I saw her in the UK X-Factor

Oh, that won't happen. She was already well known in the UK before she joined XF And the only reason her addition to the show had such a huge impact was down to the whole sympathy campaign she had going because Ashley had cheated on her. X Factor PR team used that to generate so much hype.

They won't be able to replicate that in the states

Cheryl is a tabloid construct. Take that away and nothing she contributes to the broadcast is particularly compelling.

she hasn't officially been confirmed. tbh these type of stories have popped up before and she needs a visa but she has a conviction.

Well America is known for giving celebrities special treatment

maybe.. Piers had trouble with a visa and he has no convictions but had a driving ban. Cheryl had/has a suspended sentence?

Don't convictions negatively effect the chances of getting any kind of American Visa? She's visited the country numerous times and you need a Visa for that. She also recorded her new Album in LA? She'd need a working Visa for that surely?

I'm also sure many British actors have convictions but still work over in America. Christian Bale comes to mind, he was arrested for assaulting his family.

I don't think she'll have a problem tbh.

The NY Post reports today that Nicole and Cheryl will be joining Simon on the panel.

NY stole part of their report from the dailymail with regards to Cheryl.