Aren't the Sugababes on RCA and if I recall correctly their release of Freedom was pushed back quite a lot too. Hopefully Elephant will still go to radio this week though.
The Alexandra Burke Appreciation Thread (Part 4)
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Tweam Burke said in the Ustream that Alex announced the title and premiere of Bad Boys on twitter the day before the radio premiere. I remember her tweeting back then but I honestly can't remember when it was and what other promo was going on at the time.
Originally Posted by Lace&Leather:
“Aren't the Sugababes on RCA and if I recall correctly their release of Freedom was pushed back quite a lot too. Hopefully Elephant will still go to radio this week though.”
“Aren't the Sugababes on RCA and if I recall correctly their release of Freedom was pushed back quite a lot too. Hopefully Elephant will still go to radio this week though.”
Yeah they are, but they performed the song once and a one minute snippet of the song had been released on youtube ,but with Alex nothing ,which is disappointing.
:sleep:
Originally Posted by ShawEncore:
“Tweam Burke said in the Ustream that Alex announced the title and premiere of Bad Boys on twitter the day before the radio premiere. I remember her tweeting back then but I honestly can't remember when it was and what other promo was going on at the time.”
“Tweam Burke said in the Ustream that Alex announced the title and premiere of Bad Boys on twitter the day before the radio premiere. I remember her tweeting back then but I honestly can't remember when it was and what other promo was going on at the time.”
To be frank, Alex was tweeting that she had a big surprise to reveal WEEKS before she revealed Bad Boys on twitter...
This time around, she has said no such thing except 'let the countdown begin' and 'something is coming soon', which is really ambiguous and not clear at all...
I'm not convinced that Alex knows for definite when the single is launching, but she has been dropping more and more hints lately, the biggest being the Elephant necklace she had on during that recent interview...
I'm not impressed though, every week they waste is endangering her campaign and I just feel like this era will be a cataclysmic flop if she doesn't get it out soon...
I'd also hate for it just to be thrown out there like SWY was, that would be a disastrous way to launch the lead single, but its looking more and more likely considering the time constraints...:sleep:
Originally Posted by Lace&Leather:
“Aren't the Sugababes on RCA and if I recall correctly their release of Freedom was pushed back quite a lot too. Hopefully Elephant will still go to radio this week though.”
“Aren't the Sugababes on RCA and if I recall correctly their release of Freedom was pushed back quite a lot too. Hopefully Elephant will still go to radio this week though.”
The Sugababes have a joint contract with RCA and Crown MD. But from what I've read on Popjustice Crown MD seem to have most of the control. I just hope that as soon as the era kicks off with the song premiere, it goes smoothly from then onwards. Atm it seems like the push backs are due to the constant reworking of the final mix of this particular song.
Oh I see, I thought they were just on RCA. I really wan't to know what's been the reason for all the pushbacks though as I don't think it takes that long to mix a single, but then again we could still be hearing it this week. When does that magazine some out? Becuase surely a lot of details will be in there.
I'm sure the single will be out at the end of the week though ,I am disappointed it's not tomorrow but the finished product will be amazing it has to be 
The song needs to be out now on radio if it is going to be released in October.
At this rate the song will be out in November and album in December.
:sleep:
At this rate the song will be out in November and album in December.
:sleep:
not tonight fo' sureee.
sighs, another year and we'll get it guys!
Alex's new single hitting your radio in November 2012
sighs, another year and we'll get it guys!
Alex's new single hitting your radio in November 2012
Originally Posted by Taz93:
“RCA are crap.”
“RCA are crap.”
I totally agree, they are as bad as syco if not worse IMO :yawn:
RCA are not worse than Syco. The problem with Syco is that they have absolutely no vision for an artist, they think that a big hit maker = amazing, smash hit song. That's the reason they send all their artists to producers/writers like Redone, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Stargate etc. They are good a launching a debut album, but they are not good for a long time career. As soon as they get new artists signed, the older artists aren't priority and not enough attention is paid to them. Unless if you're Leona of course. Plus if their artists aren't making money, their careers are basically dead in their eyes. Their A&R is terrible, I've never seen a label make so many terrible decisions when it comes to single choices and tracklists. I'm still in shock the artwork for the Overcome deluxe was a photoshopped screenshot from the Everybody Hurts video! Who does that?!
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.
Originally Posted by ShawEncore:
“RCA are not worse than Syco. The problem with Syco is that they have absolutely no vision for an artist, they think that a big hit maker = amazing, smash hit song. That's the reason they send all their artists to producers/writers like Redone, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Stargate etc. They are good a launching a debut album, but they are not good for a long time career. As soon as they get new artists signed, the older artists aren't priority and not enough attention is paid to them. Unless if you're Leona of course. Plus if their artists aren't making money, their careers are basically dead in their eyes. Their A&R is terrible, I've never seen a label make so many terrible decisions when it comes to single choices and tracklists. I'm still in shock the artwork for the Overcome deluxe was a photoshopped screenshot from the Everybody Hurts video! Who does that?!
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.”
“RCA are not worse than Syco. The problem with Syco is that they have absolutely no vision for an artist, they think that a big hit maker = amazing, smash hit song. That's the reason they send all their artists to producers/writers like Redone, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Stargate etc. They are good a launching a debut album, but they are not good for a long time career. As soon as they get new artists signed, the older artists aren't priority and not enough attention is paid to them. Unless if you're Leona of course. Plus if their artists aren't making money, their careers are basically dead in their eyes. Their A&R is terrible, I've never seen a label make so many terrible decisions when it comes to single choices and tracklists. I'm still in shock the artwork for the Overcome deluxe was a photoshopped screenshot from the Everybody Hurts video! Who does that?!
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.”
Well said
Originally Posted by ShawEncore:
“RCA are not worse than Syco. The problem with Syco is that they have absolutely no vision for an artist, they think that a big hit maker = amazing, smash hit song. That's the reason they send all their artists to producers/writers like Redone, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Stargate etc. They are good a launching a debut album, but they are not good for a long time career. As soon as they get new artists signed, the older artists aren't priority and not enough attention is paid to them. Unless if you're Leona of course. Plus if their artists aren't making money, their careers are basically dead in their eyes. Their A&R is terrible, I've never seen a label make so many terrible decisions when it comes to single choices and tracklists. I'm still in shock the artwork for the Overcome deluxe was a photoshopped screenshot from the Everybody Hurts video! Who does that?!
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.”
“RCA are not worse than Syco. The problem with Syco is that they have absolutely no vision for an artist, they think that a big hit maker = amazing, smash hit song. That's the reason they send all their artists to producers/writers like Redone, Savan Kotecha, Max Martin, Stargate etc. They are good a launching a debut album, but they are not good for a long time career. As soon as they get new artists signed, the older artists aren't priority and not enough attention is paid to them. Unless if you're Leona of course. Plus if their artists aren't making money, their careers are basically dead in their eyes. Their A&R is terrible, I've never seen a label make so many terrible decisions when it comes to single choices and tracklists. I'm still in shock the artwork for the Overcome deluxe was a photoshopped screenshot from the Everybody Hurts video! Who does that?!
Although RCA aren't the best UK label, they at least know what they're doing because they are an actual music label. They manage credible UK artists like Hurts, they allow more creative control, they have a better A&R, and they seem to have done good for the careers of Will Young and Westlife. I even think they did a great job with Diana Vickers, the only problem was that the public wasn't particularly interested in her. Alex NEEDED to leave Syco. If she was still with them we'd have a lead single produced by Redone featuring Pitbull with artwork designed on Paint.”
hehe
Originally Posted by stargirl1:
“I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes with this.”
“I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes with this.”
Yea its ringing alarm bells for me - too many delays seems very odd!
Originally Posted by stargirl1:
“I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes with this.”
“I would like to know what is going on behind the scenes with this.”
I suspect that a conflict of opinions regarding which single is the lead is causing the delays...
Especially with Alex mentioning that 2 singles were in the running to be the lead, I fear that Alex wants one but RCA wants another and there is some kind of internal struggle.
This is the only plausible reason imo seeing as though the album is done and there are singles sitting there waiting to be released....
Was it not just mixed on Wednesday?. It seems too soon for it to premiere just yet. Or maybe they're waiting for the other option to get a single mix treatment
Originally Posted by *Liya*:
“Was it not just mixed on Wednesday?. It seems too soon for it to premiere just yet. Or maybe they're waiting for the other option to get a single mix treatment”
“Was it not just mixed on Wednesday?. It seems too soon for it to premiere just yet. Or maybe they're waiting for the other option to get a single mix treatment
”
Anything goes I guess
Originally Posted by Zack06:
“Anything goes I guess”
“Anything goes I guess
”
That's why i said it's not great news to have different options for a lead single. There's that one song that should stand out completely from everything else...artists spend ages recording just to find that one track. If they do have 2 or more options it means that they have a bunch of "good" tracks and nothing completely outstanding. Having single worthy tracks and lead single material are 2 completely different things.
I'd understand if they were doing the 2 single before the album approach but it's pointless to be indecisive about the single that's meant to launch the album...it should be a complete no-brainer. No 2 songs can be as good as the other..
Originally Posted by *Liya*:
“That's why i said it's not great news to have different options for a lead single. There's that one song that should stand out completely from everything else...artists spend ages recording just to find that one track. If they do have 2 or more options it means that they have a bunch of "good" tracks and nothing completely outstanding.
I'd understand if they were doing the 2 single before the album approach but it's pointless to be indecisive about the single that's meant to launch the album...it should be a complete no-brainer. No 2 songs can be as good as the other..”
“That's why i said it's not great news to have different options for a lead single. There's that one song that should stand out completely from everything else...artists spend ages recording just to find that one track. If they do have 2 or more options it means that they have a bunch of "good" tracks and nothing completely outstanding.
I'd understand if they were doing the 2 single before the album approach but it's pointless to be indecisive about the single that's meant to launch the album...it should be a complete no-brainer. No 2 songs can be as good as the other..”
I guess we'll just have to wait and see and hope that the first single delivers. At this stage, we haven't heard anything about the album being launched on the back of the single so it might well be two singles.
It's a fair point but hopefully they had some really strong material to choose from.
2 singles and a 2012 release?... could be I suppose 
Come to think of it...only Rebecca is the other act I can think of that's doing the 1 single approach as her album has an early December release date set.
Come to think of it...only Rebecca is the other act I can think of that's doing the 1 single approach as her album has an early December release date set.
Originally Posted by universetipping:
“I guess we'll just have to wait and see and hope that the first single delivers. At this stage, we haven't heard anything about the album being launched on the back of the single so it might well be two singles.
It's a fair point but hopefully they had some really strong material to choose from.”
“I guess we'll just have to wait and see and hope that the first single delivers. At this stage, we haven't heard anything about the album being launched on the back of the single so it might well be two singles.
It's a fair point but hopefully they had some really strong material to choose from.”
That's just it, there isn't enough time for them to release 2 singles AND the album all in this year...it just doesn't work out...
This is why the single predicament is so worrying, as there has to be a gap between the single and the album for the sales to reach their respective peaks, and they are seriously running out of time if they want the album to be released this year and for Alexandra to score another #1...
Late September/October is getting too late, and I'm sure that the single/album release schedules start getting very crowded soon. The launch needs to happen now, or Alex will be swamped and her chance at a #1 on both the single and album charts will be severely restricted...
I hope they know what they are doing tbh, as the time really really is starting to run out now, and I'm not entirely convinced that both parties are happy with the single choice. It shouldn't be taking this long.
TBH...i think on the singles front...she'll have a lot of the acts out there for breakfast. Except for 1D & JLS. If she has a good song out, with radio support and some killer promo....she'll have the majority beat easily 
Album wise, a top 3 album with high sales is not something to be sniffed at. It all depends on the lead single...but getting a #1 album isn't really a huge problem, it's the sales that matter.
Album wise, a top 3 album with high sales is not something to be sniffed at. It all depends on the lead single...but getting a #1 album isn't really a huge problem, it's the sales that matter.
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