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But it was still higher than the Saturday one.... it was like 1.4m higher wasn't it last week?
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Bushmills do you know what the 1pm/1:30pm news do for the BBC?
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I do think Danny Cohen needs to look at Casualty when he takes over. It's a show which runs virtually throughout the year, yet only seems to do the business ratings-wise for two-thirds of its run. It's also a show which the BBC is spending money on to move to a different part of the country in the next year or so, i.e. too expensive to be wasted as a sacrificial lamb against X Factor. Either cut back the episodes, or look at moving it elsewhere in the schedules. It might have some respite if the X Factor gets moved, but that's delaying the issue.
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Casualty official figures since July (Figures in bracket is its position in BBC1's chart.)
10th July (11) 5.33m 17th July (5) 5.65m 24th July (7) 6.05m 31st July (7) 5.72m 7th Aug (8) 5.36m 14th Aug (6) 6.02m 21st Aug (13) 4.69m 28th Aug [not on] 4th Sept (5) 5.97m 11th Sept (13) 5.08m 18th Sept (10) 5.42m 25th Sept (12) 5.44m 2nd Oct (12) 5.77m These figures suggest Casualty still remains in a reasonably healthy state, but it'll be interesting to see what last week's 4m overnights translates to in tomorrow's official BARB figures. |
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The BBC could maybe run Casualty for six months of the year in a Saturday slot and the other six months on a Friday at 9pm, when ITV1 seems to be weak, and avoiding a clash with The X Factor. When the X Factor isn't on, Casualty can attract 6 million viewers, which shows it's still popular.
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Casualty can attract 6 million viewers, which shows it's still popular.
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Strictly beats X Factor sensation!!!! Brucie and Robbie Sykes will be demanding that BBC1 move Strictly to 7.45 next Saturday.
![]() Poor for Casualty. I was thinking last week (don't know if I mentioned it in any of my posts) that BBC1 had dropped the wrong programme from their overcrowded Saturday night and maybe In It To Win It would have stayed above 4m. at McIntyre beating Morgan. But next week - Piers and Cheryl. Isn't that a waste in a 10pm slot? Or could it be ITV1's post 10pm ratings equivalent of Nick Griffin on Question Time? (Ramblings of a racist - denied by said and not proven in a court of law.![]() ![]() I hear that Robbie and Brucie are holding a press conference as we speak to proclaim victory in the ratings war with X Factor. |
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I'm surprised you didnt mention that it used to get 18m in the late 1980's
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Excellent for Strictly, I know it was only 15minutes but beating X-Factor during the head to head period by over a million is a good sign of its strength this year.
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Top Stuff Iain.
![]() I hear that Robbie and Brucie are holding a press conference as we speak to proclaim victory in the ratings war with X Factor. Now they should schedule the Strictly Results against The X Factor on Saturday instead of the ridiculous Sunday recorded version - after all, it would thrash The X Factor so how would BBC1 lose out? ![]() Seriously - fantastic for Strictly considering the show was more padded than usual due to a loss of a dancer to illness. Great planning to place two of the more talked about dances right at the end to overlap The X Factor as well. The X Factor shouldn't be concerned with the ratings in the clash, that was always going to happen. Their bigger concern will be what happened at 9pm, where there was a sudden loss of 0.8m. This doesn't seem to be down to people switching off the TV altogether, but rather switching over - BBC1 increased by 0.2m, BBC2 by 0.2m and Channel 4 by 0.7m. Maybe an ad break led to this but it's worrying all the same. I asked yesterday why Danny Cohen was looking for a big format to compete with The X Factor but considering Casualty slipped below 4m I'm starting to see why. Sorry, I know all the excuses about how great The X Factor is but if it can lose 0.8m in fifteen minutes it's not such a powerhouse as some make out. Channel 4 did brilliantly, and I have the feeling that's where many of The X Factor viewers went at 9pm. Five performed poorly but then Saturday is never their night. |
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I'm surprised you didnt mention that it used to get 18m in the late 1980's
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X Factor is shorter next week (well, by 15 minutes!) and avoids Strictly so hopefully it'll do a little better than it has been. I still find the drop-off a little strange from that judge's houses rating, but then they decided to mess with a winning formula (consistent 8pm start, two hour running time, 12 acts!!!) so perhaps it shouldn't be that big of a surprise.
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I appreciate what many of you have said about Countryfile, but I don't think BBC1 should schedule based purely on what gets high ratings.
They are losing the family audience on Sundays, because they've given up on doing anything aimed at under 50s. They shouldn't be afraid to refresh things and running the same one hour factual programme in primetime every week of the year is not fresh or innovative - its lazy. Quote:
Exactly! Fair enough they said she was the new face of The Cube (that was rather funny), but what was the point of her introducing Daybreak? Because it certainly wasn't to raise any laughs..
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Family Fortunes needs to get out of that slot, its not doing well, but I suspect good repeat ratings inevitably means it'd get recommissioned by ITV.
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And well into the late 90s - if you look at the figures in the TV Facts section of the BARB website, from 1994 to 1998 Casualty is consistently in the top 10 most watched programmes of the year
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What did The Xtra Factor get on ITV2 please?
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I do wonder why the BBC feel the need to do this? Commercial channels yes, but BBC1? Especially as their Saturday nights hold up adequately (Merlin especially) against The X Factor as it is.
That has to be better than settling for the mediocre, such as So You Think You Can Dance and the Webber shows. |
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What did The Xtra Factor get on ITV2 please?
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Sorry, I know all the excuses about how great The X Factor is but if it can lose 0.8m in fifteen minutes it's not such a powerhouse as some make out.
Looking at the breakdowns for both weeks, it looks like TXF is pretty much peaking just after The National Lottery finishes. The additional 30-minutes is definitely a factor in why TXF is tailing off towards the end of its marathon episodes; 2 hours is fine but an extra half hour is pushing people's limits. A similar thing happened with DOI and BGT earlier this year and even SCD last year. Also I think a certain chunk of TXF's audience starts to go out at around 9pm so that will account to some of the lost viewers from that time onwards. Although as a viewer I'd like to see it reverted back to 2 hours next year, I'm 80% sure it's going to stay as it is because even with the extra duration, it's getting record high figures. A slight tailing off from 9pm onwards isn't going to be a major concern to the people who make the show or ITV. If TXF was getting lower figures than last year due to the additional duration (like DOI or BGT), then it might've been a concern, but with ratings as high as they've ever been I doubt they're going to be complaining! |
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I don't really get that.
Surely the production company is paid to make a show, which they did and its the broadcasters responsibility to advertise it, schedule it and bring and audience to it? I remember the head of The CW saying to the Veronica Mars producers when the show got low ratings that it wasn't their fault, it was the network's responsibility to bring the audience to the show. |
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Look at the DS ratings report, it's included there, and in previous pages on this thread!
2) it wasn't in the original report at 12:59 otherwise I would have posted it Besides, is The X Factor rating even correct? EDIT - I see you've actually changed it: Quote:
The X Factor dipped to 11.46m (47.2%) for ITV1 and ITV1 HD...
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I think the BBC will be pretty pleased with the way their autumn Saturdays are going. The number one priority was always going to be trying to boost Strictly, and they've certainly done that. It looks and feels like a rejuvenated show this year - the line-up is good, the production values are the best I've seen on the BBC, and the papers are talking about the competition, not the show being on it's last legs. This has all been reflected in the ratings, and averaging above 9m with a 6pm start is real success.
They are struggling later on in the evening with Casualty hitting lows, but it's a difficult bind to schedule your way out of. And if you pull Casualty, what takes its place? Live at the Apollo repeats? At 9pm on an October Saturday? That might attract them some stick too. It's also interesting to note that Merlin is beating out Burp in the "battle of the second-string shows" for the night. I know Burp is a lead-in, not lead-out, and has a great Sunday repeat, but it's still not the situation I would have expected a couple of months ago. In fact, in general, ITV's numbers aside from the huge XF look a little modest. I can't see why they're wasting FF so early when it can do so well in a good slot. |
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Oh, it's definitely a major powerhouse. A drop of 0.8m in the space of 15-minutes in one episode doesn't change that. No other show can manage 9m against ~10m competition like Strictly Come Dancing, and TXF scores 10m+ against anything.
Looking at the breakdowns for both weeks, it looks like TXF is pretty much peaking just after The National Lottery finishes. The additional 30-minutes is definitely a factor in why TXF is tailing off towards the end of its marathon episodes; 2 hours is fine but an extra half hour is pushing people's limits. A similar thing happened with DOI and BGT earlier this year and even SCD last year. Also I think a certain chunk of TXF's audience starts to go out at around 9pm so that will account to some of the lost viewers from that time onwards. Although as a viewer I'd like to see it reverted back to 2 hours next year, I'm 80% sure it's going to stay as it is because even with the extra duration, it's getting record high figures. A slight tailing off from 9pm onwards isn't going to be a major concern to the people who make the show or ITV. If TXF was getting lower figures than last year due to the additional duration (like DOI or BGT), then it might've been a concern, but with ratings as high as they've ever been I doubt they're going to be complaining! I think a better way of doing it next year if they're going to continue with 16 acts would be to have half perform on Fridays (9:00-10:30pm) and half on Saturdays (8:00-9:30pm) so therefore each individual show is shorter but ultimately they gain half an hour each week until all the acts merge to all perform on Saturday when there are 12 left (in a 2 hour show). |
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2009!!!
Last year's ratings: Quote:
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Saturday 17th October Overnights
BBC One 16:30- Final Score: 2.4m (20.0%) 17:10- BBC News: 3.4m (25.4%) 17:15- Regional News and Weather: 3.8m (27.6%) 17:20- F1: The Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying: 4.4m (24.0%) 19:30- Strictly Come Dancing: 7.8m (30.6%) * 15 minute peak: 8.3m (34.1%) at 19:45 21:40- The National Lottery Draws: 4.8m (19.4%) 21:50- BBC News: 5.2m (23.4%) 22:05- Michael McIntyre’s Comedy Roadshow: 4.4m (22.3%) 22:35- Match of the Day: 4.2m (29.7%) BBC Two 18:00- Autumnwatch: 1.0m (5.1%) 19:00- Autumnwatch Unsprung: 1.1m (5%) 19:30- F1: The Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying: 1.7m ( 6.8%) 20:45- Gandhi: 0.8m (3%) 21:45- Have I Got A Bit More News For You: 2.0m ( 9.1%) ITV1 15:10- The Lost World: Jurassic Park: 1.3m (11.7%) 17:30- Regional News: 2.6m (17.5%) 17:45- ITV News and Weather: 3.1m (19.2%) 18:00- Animals Do The Funniest Things: 4.5m (23.7%) 19:00- New You’ve Been Framed!: 6.2m (29.1%) 19:30- Harry Hill’s TV Burp: 6.8m (28.7%) 20:00- The X Factor: 10.9m (42.1%) * 15 minute peak: 11.4m (47.2%) at 21:45 22:00- Piers Morgan’s Life Stories: 3.1m (16.1%) 23:00- ITV News: 1.7m (10.9%) Channel 4 17:00- Come Dine with Me: 1.2m ( 8.9%) 17:30- Come Dine with Me: 1.6m (10.2%) 18:00- Come Dine with Me: 1.7m ( 9.5%) 18:30- Channel 4 News: 0.9m (4%) 19:00- Kevin McCloud’s Grand Tour of Europe: 0.7m (3%) 20:00- The RIBA Stirling Prize 2009 Live: 0.5m (2%) 21:00- The X-Files: 0.7m (4%) Five 19:15- NCIS: 1.0m (4%) 20:05- CSI: NY: 1.0m (4%) 21:00- CSI: NY: 0.9m (3.5%) 22:00- CSI: 1.2m ( 6.2%) Last year's Comedy Roadshow was a repeat of an edition shown a few months previously, and the BBC News held up better last year, too. The Harry Hill hour well down in 2010, and Strictly well up. |
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I think the BBC will be pretty pleased with the way their autumn Saturdays are going. The number one priority was always going to be trying to boost Strictly, and they've certainly done that. It looks and feels like a rejuvenated show this year - the line-up is good, the production values are the best I've seen on the BBC, and the papers are talking about the competition, not the show being on it's last legs. This has all been reflected in the ratings, and averaging above 9m with a 6pm start is real success.
They are struggling later on in the evening with Casualty hitting lows, but it's a difficult bind to schedule your way out of. And if you pull Casualty, what takes its place? Live at the Apollo repeats? At 9pm on an October Saturday? That might attract them some stick too. It's also interesting to note that Merlin is beating out Burp in the "battle of the second-string shows" for the night. I know Burp is a lead-in, not lead-out, and has a great Sunday repeat, but it's still not the situation I would have expected a couple of months ago. In fact, in general, ITV's numbers aside from the huge XF look a little modest. I can't see why they're wasting FF so early when it can do so well in a good slot. |
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The Harry Hill hour well down in 2010, and Strictly well up.
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ITV2 HD began separately BARB reporting on 7th October 2010.
Good to see ITV promoting ITV2 HD and actually telling viewers what channel number it's on. Why have they never done this with ITV1 HD? |
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BBC One desperately needs one, possibly two, successful entertainment shows for the January to August period. They already have SCD for the autumn when XF is running, but they need some hits for the other eight months of the year.
That has to be better than settling for the mediocre, such as So You Think You Can Dance and the Webber shows. |
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