Why another 13 episodes? It's flagging a bit this series. Surprised they didn't cut the series order.

But I guess it's good they are sticking with it and not chucking in the towel at the first signs of trouble. It may bounce back.

I have 9.05m (32.3%) for Downton

Surely Downton is 'appointment to view' TV for the AB1s?

It's aimed a different demographic than X-Factor. I believe it would have been a big hit whenever it was scheduled.

Perhaps that's a tape-checked figure? I know last week it ran about 21:00-22:00 instead of 21:00-22:05, so it might've finished slightly early once again.

Edit: Ah yes, it finished at 22:01 so I think the DS figure will have removed the 22:00-22:05 period, hence the slightly higher rating.

It would be interesting to see a demo breakdown for both.

figures we've been given have an average of 8.35m, peak of 9.21m for first 15 minutes

maybe that's including HD?

Good night for Five among young males. Looks like last night's "Wrong Coms" were a big hit in this demo.

Male 16-34s
ITV1 15.6%
BBC1 8.3%
Five 8.1%
BBC2 7.5%
Channel 4 total * 5.6%

Young women however preferred Channel 4's lineup of The Secret Millionaire and Desperate Housewives:

Female 16-34s
ITV1 18%
BBC1 8.6%
Channel 4 total * 8.1%
Five 6.3%
BBC2 5.6%
ITV2 total * 5.4%

*includes +1.
Source: C4 Sales.

Sunday 17th October Overnights
BBC One [inc. HD]
18:30- Countryfile: 7.11m (31%)
* possibly its most watched episode ever
19:30- Strictly Come Dancing: 9.25m (35.1%)
* up 3% from average for same show in 2008
20:00- Antiques Roadshow: 5.69m (19.8%)
21:00- Single Father: 4.58m (16.9%)
* 91% retention of premiere audience

BBC Two
19:00- Top Gear: 1.74m (7%)
20:00- Dambusters Declassified: 2.36m (8.2%)
21:00- Dragons' Den: What Happened Next?: 1.14m (4%)
22:00- Match Of The Day 2: 2.5m (13.7%)

ITV1 [inc. HD]
18:30- Harry Hill's TV Burp: 2.9m (13.9%)
19:00- The Cube: 5.36m (21.9%)
20:00- The X Factor: 13.42m (46.7%)
* up 6% from full slot average for same show last year
* up 2% from tape-checked average for same show last year
21:00- Downton Abbey: 8.8m (32.6%)
* 21:00-22:00: 9.05m (33.3%)
* series high

Channel 4 [inc. +1]
18:30- Channel 4 News: 790,000 (3.6%)
19:00- The Genius Of British Art: 668k (2.6%)
20:00- Undercover Boss USA: 883k (3.1%)
21:00- The Secret Millionaire: 2.19m (8.6%)
22:00- Desperate Housewives: 1.74m (10%)

Five
18:30- 50 First Dates: 726k (2.7%)
21:00- Superbad: 1.31m (6.2%)

E4 [inc. +1]
18:00- Glee: 260k
21:00- Sahara: 450k

ITV2 [inc. +1]
21:00- The Xtra Factor: 991k (4.1%)
22:00- The Only Way Is Essex: 786k (4.3%)

More4 [inc. +1]
21:00- Ramsay's Best Restaurant: 210k

Sky1
21:00- Thorne: Sleepyhead: 389k (1.4%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 [inc. HD]: 30.6%
BBC One: 20.8%
BBC Two: 7.8%
Channel 4 [inc. HD]: 5.4%
Five: 4.2%

Film4's Star Trek weekend was a huge success with the channel achieving an audience share of 2.2% including +1 on Saturday and 2.6% including +1 on Sunday. On both days it was the second highest rated digital channel, after ITV2.

Some ratings:

Saturday
18:50 Star Trek III: The Search for Spock 441,000
21:00 Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home 531,000

Sunday
18:40 Star Trek: First Contact 666,000 (beat Channel 4 in the 7pm hour)
21:00 Star Trek: Insurrection 464,000

All figures include +1.
Source: C4 Sales.

I can't see Konnie returning with the next series. To not even be able to retain anywhere close to 10% of the ITV1 audience or even break 1m is dreadful and the reception to her has been very negative.

Yep, that's a very poor figure for Xtra Factor. The same episode last year had 1.65m! And that's even though the main show last year had fewer viewers than yesterday.

I wonder how much is due to Downton's success though?

The Xtra Factor was decreasing before DA started anyway

ITV1 had Doc Martin in the same slot last year getting similar figures to Downton Abbey, and Xtra Factor held up perfectly well.

I definitely think Xtra Factor has been underperforming this series. It started off well for the first few weeks but since the bootcamp stage, it hasn't been hitting the same heights as last year. It's also probably having a knock-on effect on Only Way is Essex, which although rated well, could've got 1m+ if it had the same sort of lead-in as last year's Xtra Factor.

Downton Abbey and Xtra Factor I'd say have 2 audiences at each extreme end of the scale with hardly anyone interested in both shows. But for those who are, there is also ITV2+1. The show hasn't changed apart from the host, the ratings for the main show are up yet in excess of 0.6m viewers have gone missing in a year which is a good multi channel audience in itself.

Is Konnie to blame or is it simply the case that nobody was that bothered/surprised about either Storm Lee or Diva Fever leaving the competition?

Xtra Factor's figures will head skywards as soon as there is a remotely shocking result.

I think Konnie is the main problem. My memory is not that good but i'm sure Holly hosting last year most shows were over 1 million.

Do the ITV2 figures include HD?

(run for cover from attack from Dancc)

Holly had that all important likeability factor, she also had more connections then Konnie who's not really gelling

This is true. I remember the Jedward/Lucie result last year benefited Xtra Factor hugely.

No need to hide. I don't attack people, but I do get terribly bored when people ask the same thing every day and apparently ignore everyone's answers. I've decided the best thing to do is just skip your posts from now on, as you seem to everybody else's.

I'm with Dancc. You're like a cracked record.

STV seem to be treating Law and Order in the same way ITV1 treat Midsomer Murders - filler on non-football weeks. So guess the series will finish after 4 more non-football Wednesdays


That was the week they aired some old documentary and Cheetah Kingdom. Since then Taggart has been on instead, so I doubt the STV share will be so bad

According to wikipedia, Rikki (who? ) went at the same stage last year but Xtra Factor still got 1.6m viewers.

I've looked back on this thread and no one has confirmed whether or not the ratings include HD for ITV2.


Sorry. I'm just using logic to interpret the figures.

We know that BBC HD and ITV1 HD report figures separately and and the ratings are suffixed by inc. HD or not as appropriate.

We know that C4 C5, E4 report their HD figures amalgamated, so never a mention of HD.

So logically, if as it's been confirmed, ITV2 HD is reporting HD separately, it should either say inc. HD or not.