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The Ratings Thread (Part 12)
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ftv
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“Do we know yet what specails the BBC is making for this yeasr Children in Need, obviously there is the standard EastEnders specail, nothing from The Bill this year however ”

Please can we have a rest from those newsreaders this year - last year most of them weren't actually newsreaders in any case.
Digital Sid
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Think I'll give it a miss. I'm not against the idea of a US remake of Shameless, but as you said from the trailer, it looks to lack the grittiness and charm of the original. I might watch the first episode, if it's well received on here but otherwise I think I'll stick with the origional (which is airing around the same time).”

Woops meant gritty (lack of) charm.
Bushmills
22-10-2010
Reggie Perrin - 2.8m

The Taking of Prince Harry - 1m
Mike Teevee
22-10-2010
here's what I've got

Emmers - 6.18m
EE - 8.24m
Emmers - 6.81m
Watchdog - 4.22m
Corrie - 7.63m
HIGNFY - 4.64m
L&O:UK - 4.42m
Reggie - 2.76m
QT - 2.86m
Harry - 907k

none of these figures include HD
derek500
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Reggie Perrin - 2.8m

The Taking of Prince Harry - 1m ”

Points to another good week for An Idiot Abroad. Arguably one of the best new shows of the Autumn.
rzt
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“here's what I've got

Emmers - 6.18m
EE - 8.24m
Emmers - 6.81m
Watchdog - 4.22m
Corrie - 7.63m
HIGNFY - 4.64m
L&O:UK - 4.42m
Reggie - 2.76m
QT - 2.86m
Harry - 907k

none of these figures include HD”

Some low figures there, the football on C5 must've done well and dented some of those programmes. Watchdog's 4.2m was down from recent weeks, although it remains a great alternative to the ITV soaps. It must be ages since HIGNFY fell that low against normal competition - it's fallen lower against live episodes of BGT, IAC and Leaders Debate but it should be doing better against an underperforming L&O: UK. And very poor for Reggie Perrin - it's BBC1's worst rating for an original show between 9-10pm since May, when High Street Dreams had 1.9m. The Prince Harry programme on C4 also failed to deliver a decent audience; another flop for the channel.
sugapunk
22-10-2010
Channel 4 really needs to sort itself out.

They should have realised after the poor ratings of the Gary Glitter "doc" that no-one wants to watch this boring nonsense. Controversy doesn't automatically get ratings. In fact, it's often quite the opposite.

A new head of programming and commissioning is in order, I think.
Mike Teevee
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Some low figures there, the football on C5 must've done well and dented some of those programmes. Watchdog's 4.2m was down from recent weeks, although it remains a great alternative to the ITV soaps. It must be ages since HIGNFY fell that low against normal competition - it's fallen lower against live episodes of BGT, IAC and Leaders Debate but it should be doing better against an underperforming L&O: UK. And very poor for Reggie Perrin - it's BBC1's worst rating for an original show between 9-10pm since May, when High Street Dreams had 1.9m. The Prince Harry documentary on C4 also failed to deliver a decent audience; another flop for the channel.”

1.85m for Citeh's match on Five
iaindb
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by sugapunk:
“Channel 4 really needs to sort itself out.

They should have realised after the poor ratings of the Gary Glitter "doc" that no-one wants to watch this boring nonsense. Controversy doesn't automatically get ratings. In fact, it's often quite the opposite.

A new head of programming and commissioning is in order, I think.”

Jay Hunt is on her way from BBC1
ftv
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Jay Hunt is on her way from BBC1”

newkid30
22-10-2010
MEGA flopzone for Reggie Perrin, poor for HIGNFY too.
rzt
22-10-2010
Thursday 21st October Roundup
BBC One
19:30- EastEnders: 8.24m (37.7%)
20:00- Watchdog: 4.22m (17.9%)
21:00- Have I Got News For You: 4.64m (19.7%)
21:30- Reggie Perrin: 2.76m (12.3%)
22:00- BBC News: 4.14m (21.8%)

BBC Two
20:00- Nigella Kitchen: 2.01m (8.7%)
20:30- Autumnwatch: 1.9m (8%) inc. HD
21:30- Autumnwatch Unsprung: 2.0m (9.1%) inc. HD
22:00- Never Mind the Buzzcocks: 1.67m (8.8%)

ITV1 [inc. HD]
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.18m (exc. HD)
20:00- Emmerdale: 6.9m (29.9%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.9m (33.1%)
21:00- Law & Order: UK: 4.6m (20.1%)
22:00- ITV News at Ten: 2.4m (13%)

Channel 4
18:00- The Simpsons: 1.73m (inc. +1)
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.09m (inc. +1)
20:00- River Cottage Everyday: 1.6m (6.8%) , +1: 331,300 (1.4%)
21:00- The Taking of Prince Harry: 890,000 (4.2%) , +1: 83,300 (0.6%)
* below slot average of 1.8m (8.02%)
22:30- True Blood: 0.56m (inc. +1)

Channel 5
19:30- Man City v Lech Poznan: 1.88m (8.2%)
* peak: 2.62m (11.22%) at 20:20
22:10- The Glimmer Man: 980,000 (7.8%)

BBC Three
22:30- Russell Howard’s Good News: 803,000 (5.6%)

E4 [inc. +1]
21:00- The Big Bang Theory: 542k
21:30- How I Met Your Mother: 450k

Film4 [inc. +1]
18:45- The Family Stone: 110k
21:00- The Insider: 260k

More4 [inc. +1]
21:00- Help! My House is Falling Down: 430k

ITV4
17:30- Napoli v Liverpool: 788,000
Georged123
22-10-2010
I was a bit shocked to see this healdine on DS " BBC's Spending Review coverage tops 21m". I thought for a second that maybe RobbieSykes had joined PJMilllar on the DS reporting team.

Does this mean the BBC's Spending Review coverage is more popular than X Factor?
rzt
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“I was a bit shocked to see this healdine on DS " BBC's Spending Review coverage tops 21m". I thought for a second that maybe RobbieSykes had joined PJMilllar on the DS reporting team.

Does this mean the BBC's Spending Review coverage is more popular than X Factor?”

The DS article was based on this press release from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre.../21/news.shtml

The 21m figure is a reach figure. We don't have a reach figure for TXF - it's possible that with all the repeats on ITV2, ITV1 daytime, online taken into account, in addition to the 15.2m peak who watched TXF live last Sunday, TXF reaches 21m too.
ZoeMcCallister
22-10-2010
Another 8pm-midnight win for CH5, over CH4. I know I keep mentioning this, but it is happening on a much more regular basis lately and it really shouldn't be happening. It highlights how strong CH5's schedule is atm and how weak CH4's is.

BBC1's comedy block seemed hit by the football and BBC2's schedule is underperforming imo.
sn_22
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Another 8pm-midnight win for CH5, over CH4. I know I keep mentioning this, but it is happening on a much more regular basis lately and it really shouldn't be happening. It highlights how strong CH5's schedule is atm and how weak CH4's is. ”

You're quite right to point it out. Five's high-profile flops (particularly in entertainment) get an awful lot of attention, but there's a reliable enough roster of factual fare on the channel too.

Channel 4 just seems to be lurching from one nightmare to another. BB is gone, reliable property and food shows look weaker than they have in the past, and almost everything new they try is failing. They'll take This is England '86 as a success from the autumn I suppose, but they desperately need Million Pound Drop to do well in its second run. IMO, a major overhaul is needed with some big and brave decisions made - thats not exactly what I associate with Jay Hunt...

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Horrific numbers for Reggie Perrin and you wonder why the hell they brought it back for a second series. A bit of desperation, I suppose. HIGNFY was poor, but I doubt anyone will worry unduly. The bounce has well and trully gone from the '...watch' brand for BBC Two. The switch to weekly was a bad idea and presenter changes seem to have damaged it.
Roscoe Barnes
22-10-2010
Those ratings for C4 are very poor indeed. Someone must be panicking at C4 HQ.

Solid for all the soaps, with the exception of the first Emmerdale, which even exc. HD, seems a touch on the low side considering it was the start of the trial last night.

L&O: UK holding up well against BBC1, and that rating for Reggie Perrin is also very poor. I can't see another series on the cards. Then again, the fact they brought it back at all was a strange decision.
sstripling
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The DS article was based on this press release from the BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre.../21/news.shtml

The 21m figure is a reach figure. We don't have a reach figure for TXF - it's possible that with all the repeats on ITV2, ITV1 daytime, online taken into account, in addition to the 15.2m peak who watched TXF live last Sunday, TXF reaches 21m too.”

Yeah i thought it was a error and was supppose to be 2.1m!

You can't really compare them as the 21m figure, includes all the News bulletins, the BBC2 special, Newsnight plus all the web hit.

If we included the web hits - the X Factor would have about 90m extra viewers - Robbie wouldn't have an answer to that!
D.M.N.
22-10-2010
Some interesting ratings. Law and Order did well I think last night considering the football on Five, but no doubt it was helped by Reggie Perrin flopping, must be one of the only things Martin Clunes has been in that is turning into a flop!
rzt
22-10-2010
Few more ratings from yesterday:

BBC1 (exc. HD)
19:00- The One Show: 4.05m (20%)

BBC2
19:00- The Culture Show: 590k (2.8%)

ITV1 (exc. HD)
19:30- Tonight: Wrong To Buy?: 2.96m (13.5%)

ITV2 (inc. +1)
21:00- What Katie Did Next: 1.08m (4.9%)
22:00- Celebrity Juice: N-Dubz Special: 1.15m (7%)

Sky1
21:00- An Idiot Abroad: 926k (4%)

Primetime Shares
ITV1 (inc. HD): 22.2%
BBC One: 21.3%
Channel 5: 7%
BBC Two: 6.6%
Channel 4 (inc. +1): 5.6%
D.M.N.
22-10-2010
Provisional schedules for Saturday 5th November out:

BBC One
15:00 - F1: Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying
17:20 - BBC News
17:45 - Walk on the Wild Side
18:15 - Strictly Come Dancing
19:40 - Merlin
20:25 - Lottery Draws
20:40 - Casualty
21:30 - The Armstrong and Miller Show
22:00 - BBC News
22:20 - Match of the Day

ITV1
18:15 - All Star Family Fortunes
19:00 - You've Been Framed!
19:40 - Harry Hill's TV Burp
20:00 - The X Factor
21:30 - Piers Morgan's Life Stories
* note - UK TV Guides lists this 22:00 to 22:30, but that is wrong
22:30 - ITV News

Other notable mentions:

- F1: Brazilian Grand Prix on 6th November is live from 15:10 to 18:15, so will not interfere with BBC1's primetime schedule
- Video Exclusive: Susan Boyle on 6th November at 18:55 on ITV1
- Downton Abbey finale on 6th November is 90 minutes from 21:00
- TBA on ITV1 on Tuesday, 9th November from 20:00 to 22:00, any ideas? It's not Football, and it can't be a series because I'm a Celebrity starts the following Sunday. My only guess is that it'll be a Midsomer Murders repeat, but that'd be pointless considering it'll probably be on the very next day (which, also has two hour blanks at 8pm and 9pm).
rzt
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Provisional schedules for Saturday 5th November out:

- TBA on ITV1 on Tuesday, 9th November from 20:00 to 22:00, any ideas? It's not Football, and it can't be a series because I'm a Celebrity starts the following Sunday. My only guess is that it'll be a Midsomer Murders repeat, but that'd be pointless considering it'll probably be on the very next day (which, also has two hour blanks at 8pm and 9pm).”

My guess for Tuesday 9th is new documentaries London Zoo at 8pm and David Suchet on the Orient Express at 9pm. And on Wednesday 10th Nov, the Pride of Britain Awards between 7.30pm/8pm and 10pm.
Tassium
22-10-2010
CH4 is suffering because it has become too closely associated with twenty-something trash.

So even good programmes are given a wide berth and documentary that just screams tackiness (like the Prince Harry thing) only reinforces this view.

It's shocking to think that CH4 is now a low-end trash channel in it's brand, actually below ITV2 since they at least have some range in their tack.
paltonz
22-10-2010
What did Pretty Little Liars get last night on VIVA? It was promoted very heavily over the last month.
ftv
22-10-2010
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“CH4 is suffering because it has become too closely associated with twenty-something trash.

So even good programmes are given a wide berth and documentary that just screams tackiness (like the Prince Harry thing) only reinforces this view.

It's shocking to think that CH4 is now a low-end trash channel in it's brand, actually below ITV2 since they at least have some range in their tack.”

In terms of audience share Channel 5 has become the new C4 (alas)
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