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What's so extraordinary about them? Liverpool Reserves drawing at home to Northampton Town. Manchester City Reserves losing to West Brom. Chelsea Reserves losing at home to Newcastle.
Lazy little sh1ts. Paid all that money and they can't be ar5ed to play more than once a week. And shows how rubbish Scunthorpe are when they get cuffed at home to Manchester United Reserves. Unless Scunthorpe are playing their reserve team as well. No wonder BBC1 have stuck their highlights programme on at 11.30. The League Cup. Why? ![]() |
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What's so extraordinary about them? Liverpool Reserves drawing at home to Northampton Town. Manchester City Reserves losing to West Brom. Chelsea Reserves losing at home to Newcastle.
Lazy little sh1ts. Paid all that money and they can't be ar5ed to play more than once a week. And shows how rubbish Scunthorpe are when they get cuffed at home to Manchester United Reserves. Unless Scunthorpe are playing their reserve team as well. No wonder BBC1 have stuck their highlights programme on at 11.30. The League Cup. Why? ![]() ![]() An embarrassing night for Liverpool. Ditto Man City really. |
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If anything I think these days the League Cup is far more exciting than the FA Cup, sure the big teams play weakened sides but this means there is alot more shocks and having the matches in midweek evenings really adds to the atmosphere.
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As for Bedell, I liked what she said about comedy today, and I think commissioning 45 minute sitcoms to air after the Cowell shows on Saturdays and expanding them to 60 mins for future series could really work. ITV's 45 minute shows run for about 32-34 mins generally so it's very close to the BBC's half hour sitcoms, and once it's established the extended running time for future series would allow the characters to be fleshed out more. Hopefully that Caroline Aherne sitcom comes to fruition as I'm sure it'd do well after X Factor and ITV really need more comedy. If they can get 2 new sitcoms on next year and one of them takes off then it's a start. More panel/stand up shows are needed and I thought it was interesting that she mentioned new ways of doing animated Sunday night topical comedy. Looks like Headcases has been abandoned then but the idea hasn't been totally ditched.
The BBC planned 50 minute sitcom episodes about 20 years ago but they never got beyond Only Fools and You Rang M'Lord. Can't see what the problem was, myself. Does restrict ITV with the scheduling though. |
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With regards to the X Factor issues for year, I definately believe it will turn into a positive as it will force ITV to make new shows that can turn into returnable hits. In the short-term ITV will be hit by losing the fortune from ad revenue but in the long-term ITV can invest more in more dramas, comedy and entertainment formats. If there was no X Factor USA issue then I would assume ITV would just continue to flog the X Factor cash cow even more and neglect the problems they will face when Cowell shows come to an end. Quote:
If anything I think these days the League Cup is far more exciting than the FA Cup, sure the big teams play weakened sides but this means there is alot more shocks and having the matches in midweek evenings really adds to the atmosphere.
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LWT experimented with 45 minute sitcom episodes when it started back in 1968. The first series of Please, Sir! were 45 minute episodes. The experiment was not successful and LWT turned to 30 minute episodes very soon afterwards.
The BBC planned 50 minute sitcom episodes about 20 years ago but they never got beyond Only Fools and You Rang M'Lord. Can't see what the problem was, myself. Does restrict ITV with the scheduling though. |
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With regards to the X Factor issues for year, I definately believe it will turn into a positive as it will force ITV to make new shows that can turn into returnable hits. In the short-term ITV will be hit by losing the fortune from ad revenue but in the long-term ITV can invest more in more dramas, comedy and entertainment formats.
If there was no X Factor USA issue then I would assume ITV would just continue to flog the X Factor cash cow even more and neglect the problems they will face when Cowell shows come to an end. The ideal scenario would be ITV go back to the drawing board for this spring and try new shows, perhaps propping them up with shows such as Take Me Out and The Cube. What they can't do is just treat it as the usual summer filler and put half hearted cheap shows on just to fill the time. |
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Extra Emmerdale on week beginning 4th October: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/emmer...w/default.html (maybe getting an episode out of the way now ready for a lack of episodes from November due to IAC/Corrie 50th?)
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I want to almost cry that they got rid of Big Brother for Seven Days which I've been watching for 45 mins and nothing has happened.
May get a decent rating tonight but due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction, it will drop a lot. |
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I want to almost cry that they got rid of Big Brother for Seven Days which I've been watching for 45 mins and nothing has happened.
May get a decent rating tonight but due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction, it will drop a lot. Quote:
... in the long-term ITV can invest more in more dramas, comedy and entertainment formats. .
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I don't think TXF again in the Spring would be too bad. Obviously it's 5 months sooner than normal but BGT would be 6 months later than normal so overall it sort of balances out, and there'd be no additional episodes of either show within the space of that calendar year.
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DOI in Winter benefits from relatively weak competition and really needs to stay as close to that as possible, with Spring being the next best option.
Alternative of course could be DOI keeps it's current slot, but TXF audition shows run alongside it from mid-Feb, with the live shows kicking in once DOI has finished, so running April-mid-June.Quote:
Extra Emmerdale on week beginning 4th October: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/emmer...w/default.html (maybe getting an episode out of the way now ready for a lack of episodes from November due to IAC/Corrie 50th?)
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I want to almost cry that they got rid of Big Brother for Seven Days which I've been watching for 45 mins and nothing has happened.
May get a decent rating tonight but due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction, it will drop a lot. |
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Extra Emmerdale on week beginning 4th October: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/emmer...w/default.html (maybe getting an episode out of the way now ready for a lack of episodes from November due to IAC/Corrie 50th?)
Didn't Emmerdale lose some episodes around the time of the World Cup which it never caught up on?? Maybe it's one of those. Or it could just be to mark the big episode, because it looks like it's being written as a one hour. |
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Are the making another series of The Family? That was actually pretty good, this is just flat out boring.
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Yep, mind-numbingly boring. Ratings will drop like a stone over the next few weeks, especially once Apprentice You're Fired starts.
Let's hope so. The two possible new sitcoms is an improvement I suppose but we haven't heard much about new dramas recently (only 3) considering 50 hours of The Bill has gone.
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Have they got an England game on the Friday around then, possibly displacing an edition (or displacing Corrie which takes the Emmerdale slot?) |
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yeah Im just a bit shocked at how appaling it was, DS and Twitter are panning it like there is no tomorrow!! It will go sub 1m soon IMO... oh Channel 4 what have you done?
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US Ratings - Premiere Tuesday
ABC:
8pm Dancing With The Stars 15.15m (3.4) * Down 32% from Monday night * Built from 2.6 at 8-9pm to 4.3 from 9-10pm * #1 at 9pm in A18-49 & total viewers 10pm Detroit 1-8-7 9.75m (2.4) * Poor start * Retained 56% of lead-in * Boosted by DWTS overrun will drop in finals * 8% lower than The Forgotten last season CBS: 8pm NCIS 18.92m (3.9) * Most watched show of the night * Down 5% in total viewers vs last fall * Down 15% among A18-49 9pm NCIS:LA 14.64m (3.2) * 2 hour season premiere * 3.5 for first 30 mins, 2.9 for last 30 mins * #1 at 10pm in total viewers & A18-49 * Down 27% from series premiere last fall FOX: 8pm Glee 12.28m (5.5) * #1 show of the night A18-49 * 72% higher than Hells Kitchen in this slot last season * 17% higher than season 1 finale * 45% higher than May 2009 pilot preview after Idol finale * Just 0.1 below all time high set for spring premiere 9pm Raising Hope 7.48m (3.1) * Poor retention of 56% * Boosted by Glee overrun will go down in finals * 4th in viewers & A18-49 * 1st among A18-34 9.30pm Running Wilde 5.87m (2.5) * Retained 81% of lead-in * Cant afford to drop much at all in coming weeks * 4th in viewers & A18-49 * 3rd among A18-34 NBC: 8pm The Biggest Loser 7.16m (2.9) * Down nearly 25% vs last season premiere * First hour 2.6, Second hour 3.3 * Beat FOX comedies at 9pm 10pm Parenthood 5.87m (2.4) * Down 11% from last weeks premiere * Tied ABC in the hour among A18-49 NETWORKS: Rank - A18-49 A18-34 Viewers A18-49 vs 2009 #1 FOX 4.1 4.7 9.47m UP 24% #2 CBS 3.4 2.3 16.07m DOWN 17% #3 ABC 3.1 2.2 13.53m DOWN 3% #4 NBC 2.7 2.2 6.73m DOWN 7% Outstanding rating for Glee. Some talk that without Idol it would fade but it kicked off with a bang last night - opening a far bigger lead over NCIS than I'd have expected. The way things stand, it has a good chance of being #1 for the week in the key demo. The two NCIS shows were a bit weaker than CBS might have hoped though they did note in their press releases that both were up significantly from their May finales - NCIS adding 18% and NCIS:LA adding 26%. Tuesday was always going to be the quietest day for new series and unsurprisingly, none of them caught on. While Running Wilde was lower than Raising Hope, they both did poorly given the Glee lead-in. At least the new shows are making things easy for FOX in clearing spaces in their 2011 fall schedule for X Factor. Detroit 1-8-7 won't last. Source: Tvbythenumbers _____________________ Elsewhere, Lonestar continues production and will air next Monday. FOX are said to be gutted but they like the show - it'll not last long, though. Given its drop over the hour on Monday, it could fall further next week. |
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Don't get me wrong, it's fair enough that C4 axed BB. But for this sort of reality show, it was a poor first episode and was much worse compared to similar shows which have aired recently such as The Family and The Scheme. I don't think it'll go as low as sub-1m though.
Oh i would love for The Family to return over this crap! |
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US Tuesday Finals + Detroit 1-8-7 HUGE HIT in Detroit!
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ABC: 8pm: DWTS highlights - 12.151m (2.6) 9pm: DWTS results - 18.158m (4.4) 10pm: Detroit 1-8-7 - 9.342m (2.3) CBS: 8pm: NCIS - 19.409m (4.0) 9pm-11pm: NCIS: LA - 15.757m (3.4) NBC: 8pm-10pm: The Biggest Loser - 7.225m (2.9) 10pm: Parenthood - 5.847m (2.5) FOX: 8pm: Glee - 12.452m (5.6) - also, 6.5 in adults 18-34, 8.9 in women 18-34 9pm: Raising Hope - 7.309m (3.1) 9:30pm: Running Wilde - 5.595m (2.4) CW: 8pm: One Tree Hill - 1.863m (0.9) 9pm: Life Unexpected - 1.454m (0.7) Link 2: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/22...-detroit/64742 Another news: Detroit 1-8-7 attracted a 30.6 ratings with 47 share points in Detroit. That translates to 834,000 viewers. Among adults 25-54 demo, it scored 20.8/45. |
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Seven Days will bomb.
I'm struggling to see the point of it at all. |
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Confirmed:
Saturday 2nd October 2010 5:30pm Walk on the Wild Side 6:00pm Strictly Come Dancing 7:05pm Merlin 7:50pm The National Lottery: In It to Win It 8:40pm Casualty 9:30pm Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow 10:15pm BBC News 10:30pm Match of the Day Documentary Kids in Care on 5th October at 9:00pm. The Apprentice, confirmed, back on 6th October at 9:00pm, with Motorway Cops on 7th October at 9:00pm. The rumoured schedule from a few weeks back having The X Factor on 2nd October as 115 minutes long is actually true: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/xfact...0/default.html And as thus: Saturday 2nd October 2010 5:20pm Britain Does The Funniest Things 6:20pm All Star Family Fortunes 7:05pm The X Factor 9:00pm When Piers Met So ITV's primetime on 2nd October starts earlier than BBC's... for some surprising reason, but I really think ITV's schedule needs to move an hour completely. It does mean nearly 3 and a half hours of X Factor in a weekend, I think a certain someone here might compare that to the final weekend from December last year... Looks like ITV are going to schedule X Factor to start when Strictly finishes. X Factor could have several different start times this Autumn. Motorway Cops back in prime-time? Nooooooo! Last year Have I Got News started on Friday 16th Oct. Should start this year on Thur 14th alongside series 2 of Reggie Perrin, so that will mean just one week of MC on Thursday. Expect it'll move to the Tuesday the following week.
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C14E - do you think FOX would recommission XFUSA if it averaged something like a 4.0? Obviously that's way low compared to American Idol and some of the other big guns but it'd be an improvement over how their new shows are rating at the moment.
Very strong numbers for Glee. Unfortunately I think No Ordinary Family is going to get crushed at birth next week. |
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Seven Days will bomb.
I'm struggling to see the point of it at all. |
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Jennifer Lopez & Steven Tyler are the new judges of American Idol - what a shocker. J'Lo gets $12m a year plus deals to produce TV shows for FOX and a film deal to revive her flagging screen career.
While that news is unlikely to unsettle Simon Cowell, one other piece of news might - American Idol is introducing an "in-house" mentor. Oh, and they're going to start "moving around" on stage some more as well. They left the door open for Elton John, but he has been pretty clear that he couldn't be less interested. The mentor will be Jimmy Iovine, boss of Interscope Records. He won't judge but will work with the contestants on the show and after. When Cowell left, he also gave up the recording rights which Fuller moved over to Interscope. |
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Chatnav, the site for Seven Days that was plugged constantly throughout the show has been down since the episode started. Wonder if that's due to large activity or poor preparation from C4's techies.
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Last year Have I Got News started on Friday 16th Oct. Should start this year on Thur 14th alongside series 2 of Reggie Perrin, so that will mean just one week of MC on Thursday. Expect it'll move to the Tuesday the following week.