If anything I think these days the League Cup is far more exciting than the FA Cup, sure the big teams play weakened sides but this means there is alot more shocks and having the matches in midweek evenings really adds to the atmosphere.

Northampton Town are a League Two side! Liverpool should be at least 3-0 up! Instead it's 1-1 and going to extra time.

An embarrassing night for Liverpool. Ditto Man City really.

I agree. Reserves or not, Liverpool should be doing better!

LWT experimented with 45 minute sitcom episodes when it started back in 1968. The first series of Please, Sir! were 45 minute episodes. The experiment was not successful and LWT turned to 30 minute episodes very soon afterwards.

The BBC planned 50 minute sitcom episodes about 20 years ago but they never got beyond Only Fools and You Rang M'Lord.

Can't see what the problem was, myself. Does restrict ITV with the scheduling though.

With regards to the X Factor issues for year, I definately believe it will turn into a positive as it will force ITV to make new shows that can turn into returnable hits. In the short-term ITV will be hit by losing the fortune from ad revenue but in the long-term ITV can invest more in more dramas, comedy and entertainment formats.

If there was no X Factor USA issue then I would assume ITV would just continue to flog the X Factor cash cow even more and neglect the problems they will face when Cowell shows come to an end.


Agree. The top teams fielding weakened sides gives more shocks like the Chelsea vs Newcastle game, which was an absolute cracker.


Only Fools and Horses being made 50 mins long was through the request of the writer, John Sullivan.

They will probably do that anyway. Simon & Cheryl are rumoured to be joining the American panel with one other judge and Dermot is supposedly in the running to host it. It will almost certainly get an ITV2 showing days after airing in the USA. I can't see them choosing American Idol over X Factor. It will probably be identical to the UK version but with American contestants.

The ideal scenario would be ITV go back to the drawing board for this spring and try new shows, perhaps propping them up with shows such as Take Me Out and The Cube. What they can't do is just treat it as the usual summer filler and put half hearted cheap shows on just to fill the time.

Extra Emmerdale on week beginning 4th October: http://www.itv.com/presscentre/emmer...w/default.html (maybe getting an episode out of the way now ready for a lack of episodes from November due to IAC/Corrie 50th?)

I want to almost cry that they got rid of Big Brother for Seven Days which I've been watching for 45 mins and nothing has happened.
May get a decent rating tonight but due to the overwhelmingly negative reaction, it will drop a lot.

Yep, mind-numbingly boring. Ratings will drop like a stone over the next few weeks, especially once Apprentice You're Fired starts.


Let's hope so. The two possible new sitcoms is an improvement I suppose but we haven't heard much about new dramas recently (only 3) considering 50 hours of The Bill has gone.

I guess if they double up the audition shows over Sat/Sun, they can pretty much start the live shows in May with the final around mid-July - which though not ideal wouldn't be too bad and certainly preferable to it being in late August (though that said, TXF launch shows do well enough there). That then gives a good 6-8 weeks before BGT would kick off.


Alternative of course could be DOI keeps it's current slot, but TXF audition shows run alongside it from mid-Feb, with the live shows kicking in once DOI has finished, so running April-mid-June.



Have they got an England game on the Friday around then, possibly displacing an edition (or displacing Corrie which takes the Emmerdale slot?)

If they just put dead air in place of Big Brother it would have been an improvement, and sane people would be more likely to watch it.

That looks like that really big episode which has been hyped up for months and interesting to see it getting a good slot taking the easy Wednesday 7.30pm slot, rather than boosting Tuesdays.

Didn't Emmerdale lose some episodes around the time of the World Cup which it never caught up on?? Maybe it's one of those. Or it could just be to mark the big episode, because it looks like it's being written as a one hour.

Are the making another series of The Family? That was actually pretty good, this is just flat out boring.

yeah Im just a bit shocked at how appaling it was, DS and Twitter are panning it like there is no tomorrow!! It will go sub 1m soon IMO... oh Channel 4 what have you done?

There are Euro 2012 qualifying games on Fri 8th Oct but England do not feature. They have a home match on Tuesday 12th, but that's an 8pm kick-off so still room for Emmerdale.

Don't get me wrong, it's fair enough that C4 axed BB. But for this sort of reality show, it was a poor first episode and was much worse compared to similar shows which have aired recently such as The Family and The Scheme. I don't think it'll go as low as sub-1m though.

ABC:
8pm – Dancing With The Stars – 15.15m (3.4)
* Down 32% from Monday night
* Built from 2.6 at 8-9pm to 4.3 from 9-10pm
* #1 at 9pm in A18-49 & total viewers
10pm – Detroit 1-8-7 – 9.75m (2.4)
* Poor start
* Retained 56% of lead-in
* Boosted by DWTS overrun – will drop in finals
* 8% lower than The Forgotten last season

CBS:
8pm – NCIS – 18.92m (3.9)
* Most watched show of the night
* Down 5% in total viewers vs last fall
* Down 15% among A18-49
9pm – NCIS:LA – 14.64m (3.2)
* 2 hour season premiere
* 3.5 for first 30 mins, 2.9 for last 30 mins
* #1 at 10pm in total viewers & A18-49
* Down 27% from series premiere last fall

FOX:
8pm – Glee – 12.28m (5.5)
* #1 show of the night A18-49
* 72% higher than Hell’s Kitchen in this slot last season
* 17% higher than season 1 finale
* 45% higher than May 2009 “pilot preview” after Idol finale
* Just 0.1 below all time high set for spring premiere
9pm – Raising Hope – 7.48m (3.1)
* Poor retention of 56%
* Boosted by Glee overrun – will go down in finals
* 4th in viewers & A18-49
* 1st among A18-34
9.30pm – Running Wilde – 5.87m (2.5)
* Retained 81% of lead-in
* Can’t afford to drop much at all in coming weeks
* 4th in viewers & A18-49
* 3rd among A18-34

NBC:
8pm – The Biggest Loser – 7.16m (2.9)
* Down nearly 25% vs last season premiere
* First hour – 2.6, Second hour – 3.3
* Beat FOX comedies at 9pm
10pm – Parenthood – 5.87m (2.4)
* Down 11% from last weeks premiere
* Tied ABC in the hour among A18-49

NETWORKS:
Rank - A18-49 – A18-34 – Viewers – A18-49 vs 2009
#1 FOX – 4.1 – 4.7 – 9.47m – UP 24%
#2 CBS – 3.4 – 2.3 – 16.07m – DOWN 17%
#3 ABC – 3.1 – 2.2 – 13.53m – DOWN 3%
#4 NBC – 2.7 – 2.2 – 6.73m – DOWN 7%

Outstanding rating for Glee. Some talk that without Idol it would fade but it kicked off with a bang last night - opening a far bigger lead over NCIS than I'd have expected. The way things stand, it has a good chance of being #1 for the week in the key demo.

The two NCIS shows were a bit weaker than CBS might have hoped though they did note in their press releases that both were up significantly from their May finales - NCIS adding 18% and NCIS:LA adding 26%.

Tuesday was always going to be the quietest day for new series and unsurprisingly, none of them caught on. While Running Wilde was lower than Raising Hope, they both did poorly given the Glee lead-in. At least the new shows are making things easy for FOX in clearing spaces in their 2011 fall schedule for X Factor. Detroit 1-8-7 won't last.

Source: Tvbythenumbers
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Elsewhere, Lonestar continues production and will air next Monday. FOX are said to be gutted but they like the show - it'll not last long, though. Given its drop over the hour on Monday, it could fall further next week.

I think it will by like the 4th night, well maybe around 1.2m... you never know, I didnt see one positive comment.

Oh i would love for The Family to return over this crap!

Link: http://pifeedback.com/eve/forums/a/t.../751101323/p/7

ABC:

8pm: DWTS highlights - 12.151m (2.6)
9pm: DWTS results - 18.158m (4.4)
10pm: Detroit 1-8-7 - 9.342m (2.3)

CBS:

8pm: NCIS - 19.409m (4.0)
9pm-11pm: NCIS: LA - 15.757m (3.4)

NBC:

8pm-10pm: The Biggest Loser - 7.225m (2.9)
10pm: Parenthood - 5.847m (2.5)

FOX:

8pm: Glee - 12.452m (5.6) - also, 6.5 in adults 18-34, 8.9 in women 18-34
9pm: Raising Hope - 7.309m (3.1)
9:30pm: Running Wilde - 5.595m (2.4)

CW:

8pm: One Tree Hill - 1.863m (0.9)
9pm: Life Unexpected - 1.454m (0.7)

Link 2: http://tvbythenumbers.com/2010/09/22...-detroit/64742

Another news: Detroit 1-8-7 attracted a 30.6 ratings with 47 share points in Detroit. That translates to 834,000 viewers. Among adults 25-54 demo, it scored 20.8/45.

Seven Days will bomb.

I'm struggling to see the point of it at all.

I was going to say not much room there for a 14-couple Strictly programme the following Saturday, but due to internationals there's no premier league football that Saturday so no MOTD. May be a bit of a problem the following Saturday, the 16th, when there will be 13 couples on Strictly.

Looks like ITV are going to schedule X Factor to start when Strictly finishes. X Factor could have several different start times this Autumn.

Motorway Cops back in prime-time? Nooooooo! Last year Have I Got News started on Friday 16th Oct. Should start this year on Thur 14th alongside series 2 of Reggie Perrin, so that will mean just one week of MC on Thursday. Expect it'll move to the Tuesday the following week.

C14E - do you think FOX would recommission XFUSA if it averaged something like a 4.0? Obviously that's way low compared to American Idol and some of the other big guns but it'd be an improvement over how their new shows are rating at the moment.

Very strong numbers for Glee. Unfortunately I think No Ordinary Family is going to get crushed at birth next week.

I'm actually really angry with myself for sitting through the whole hour and wasting it!

Jennifer Lopez & Steven Tyler are the new judges of American Idol - what a shocker. J'Lo gets $12m a year plus deals to produce TV shows for FOX and a film deal to revive her flagging screen career.

While that news is unlikely to unsettle Simon Cowell, one other piece of news might - American Idol is introducing an "in-house" mentor. Oh, and they're going to start "moving around" on stage some more as well.

They left the door open for Elton John, but he has been pretty clear that he couldn't be less interested.

The mentor will be Jimmy Iovine, boss of Interscope Records. He won't judge but will work with the contestants on the show and after. When Cowell left, he also gave up the recording rights which Fuller moved over to Interscope.

Chatnav, the site for Seven Days that was plugged constantly throughout the show has been down since the episode started. Wonder if that's due to large activity or poor preparation from C4's techies.