Brilliant for Would I Lie To You - I think it's doing better in this slot than how it was rating pre-10pm. Apart from the slight fall for QI, all the other shows were pretty steady week-on-week or up. I think ITV'll keep PoG in the Friday slot for its next series and see how it does up against easier competition - it could be getting 4m without New Tricks there. Decent evening for both channels.

I assume that'll be extended as there is no show the Friday before. And seems this weeks Fri/Sat double doesn't include an elimination - and there is no show on the Sunday.


LOL - and to think that's considered a "flop". It did well enough of course, and IMO was stronger than some people here would like us to believe - but thinking now I wonder how much Simon Cowell taking The X Factor auditions live may have hit it, as that was Britain's Got Talent's original unique selling point.

The second Coronation Street seems to really sturggle on Friday nights and EastEnders is beating it in first showings at the moment. Not a fantastic night for ITV at all though Paul O'Grady is holding up reasonably well against New Tricks which, like Law and Order, doesn't appear to be enjoying it's change in night. Unlike Law and Order though, it had a brilliant starting point so a loss still results in very good figures. Would I Lie To You is performing brilliantly.

As for the provisional schedules for 9th October - ITV seems about right and I hope it doesn't change miuch. As has been said, I think Strictly Come Dancing will need more time than that so I presume they will just change Comedy Roadshow to a half hour repeat or drop it all together.

EastEnders has spent most of the year a head of Corrie
And i don't think it will end there as they have 3 massive storylines running from the end of november into December
and then of course the big xmas storylines too

Paul O grady doing well

I dont watch it [ i rely on your updates ] but it seems that every week on Eastenders is a "massive storyline". Is it not going to get too sensationalist very quickly if it keeps going down that route & wont audiences tire of these constant hyping of stories?

There aren't massive storylines every week, in anycase, EE is a drama, so of course every so often there should be big storylines. All soaps do this.

I can think of a couple of shows on ITV where 'constant hyping of stories' applies to as well. And they're not drama's.

well maybe dan is just a bit excitable then because every week he is breathlessly telling us about the next massive storyline.

the Itv shows you allude to dont run all year round though do they? they are one or two nights a week for 13 weeks? I would think viewer fatigue is less likely when there is a season break? I'm just thinking that sensationalism is what did for Brookside,..,.........

Not really becuase not all the storylines have been hyped up and this year quite a few things have happend that people didn't know about.

i'll never understand the appeal of soaps..... any of them.... before someone comes back with the usual response......

I don't
I think the last massive storyline EastEnders had was obviously the Vic fire but that was really just an episode and of course peggys exit but before that you are looking at Lucas Murder reveal back at the start of the summer.

EastEnders is a soap and therefore should be able to carry alot of Big storylines but the brilliant thing with EastEnders is they tend to run quite a few storylines at once so there is usually 2 storylines running alongside something big
but then i guess with it being based on familys that makes sense.

The big storylines i refer to are a Death fueld by Alchol and a slow burner which is supose to build up over the next year (Stacey and Max Big climax springs to mind)
And of course the Xmas storylines

Good job you're not in charge of ITV1 then.

Thanks rzt. So overall BGT 2010 did alright. Obviously down on last year but it was never going to hit those heights ever again!


EE winning the night again. I think NT would do much better on a different night despite the solid Friday figures it has been posting. Corrie has averaged 8.4m this week. Its most stable week in a while (probs since the Audrey/Lewis storyline concluded). Anything on Emmerdale yet?

any channel 4 ratings?

Yes there is but we're are not going to post them. Why do people ask things like this? Sorry if i'm coming across badly but is it not obvious if there was C4 ratings that would have posted them.

wonder how the Miliband docu-drama on More4 will have faired considering (from what I've seen anyway) it had very little promotion compared to previous dramas of that nature.

I think I read there are still 90 or 100 new editions of To Buy Or Not To Buy in the can, and presumably any currently unrepeated episodes will be shown for a second time, so it will probably be around intermittently for another year or so.

Yeah, 5.15pm could do with a bit of variety. They don't even have to have a 45-minute programme there. They could try out some 30-minute stuff. Although, presumably not Cash in the Attic, because they repeated that at 5.35pm for a week in December 2007 (when Neighbours was on a break) and it only got 1m viewers.

Yeah, the trouble is they've shown too much faith in Law and Order on the basis of how it rated on Mondays, and that faith has turned out to be slightly misplaced.

As you say, Fridays could be worth a shot. Crime stuff has done well there in recent years.

Mondays would still be my choice, though, cos there's a fair bit of easily moved wishy-washy factual on Mondays at 9pm over the course of a year, which can easily be played out on another weeknight.

Regarding Would I Lie to You?, hasn't the series now finished? last week was a highlights show and now they've started showing repeats of a previous series.

I can see why ITV have moved Law and Order, why block up one of the biggest slots of the week with a show that is already established.

New dramas on Monday + Law and Order on Thursdays =
Higher ratings than
Law and Order on Monday and New dramas on Thursdays
which is something not noticed in this thread when every discussion is about individual shows ratings.

There isn't that much factual shown on Mondays at 9 and most of it is at unattractive times of the year.

No surprise EE is on top at the moment. Kat Slater is a role model to many fanatical EE viewers.

It's not like EE to have a storyline involving characters either leaving or returning to The Square.

Well, if they can still make a profit on Law and Order with 4 to 4.5m on Thursday nights, good luck to them.

I suppose we'll get the answer when they schedule the second half of the second series.

That's right.

Norton is going in that slot on October 22nd.

EDIT: Or is it the 29th?

22nd.

Can't wait myself.

I agree with your first sentence, it was worth testing the waters and seeing if L&O could cope on another night. Regarding your second sentence, I think if they were switched over, the overall Monday + Thursday 9pm figures would still be about the same as now. L&O would be boosted to ~5m and the mini-series would drop by about the same no.

As Pizza says, the scheduling of the 2nd half of the series will be a good indicator of whether ITV are happy with the current ratings or not. There's definitely space on Mondays next year to occupy it, especially as quite a few of their new dramas are ones which are likely to be stripped across a week (The Oaks/Injustice/The Jury/Kidnap & Ransom possibly) rather than airing weekly on Mondays.


Well, they had 6 weeks of factual on Mondays during April/May which is a good time of the year. Those factual shows rated well but in the future it's probably better if ITV give dramas that slot because they're more expensive and need the Monday night Corrie support more than cheaper factual shows.

ABC:
10pm - 20/20 - 5.43m (1.5)
* Won 10pm timeslot among A18-49

CBS:
8pm – Medium – 6.12m (1.4)
* Down 33% from 2009 season premiere
* Down 39% from Ghost Whisperer in same slot
9pm – CSI: NY – 10.28m (2.0)
* Down 50% among A18-49 vs Wednesday 09 premiere
* Down 29% among total viewers vs 2009 premiere
* Down 5% from Medium in same slot last season
10pm – Blue Bloods – 12.81m (2.2)
* Up 22% from Numb3rs premiere last season
* #1 show of the night in viewers & A18-49

FOX:
9pm – The Good Guys – 2.90m (0.9)
* Down 10% among A18-49 from Dollhouse premiere
* Lowest rating for any original broadcast this week

NBC:
8pm – Dateline NBC – 7.21m (1.6)
* #1 at 8pm & #2 at 9pm in demo
10pm - Outlaw - 4.99m (1.1)
* Down 51% from premiere last Wednesday
* Last at 10pm

CW:
8pm – Smallville – 2.90m (1.3)
* Best ratings for the show since it moved to Friday
* Won the hour in adults 18-34
* Beat ABC & FOX in the hour
* Up 30% from last season premiere
9pm – Supernatural – 2.79m (1.2)
* Little change despite move from Thursdays
* Beat ABC & FOX
* Won the hour in men 18-34

The CW beat ABC & FOX overall in the key demo.

Overall, CBS was down 10% from last season in the demo but added 15% in total viewers. Compared to an all new Friday line-up last season, FOX was down 20%. ABC, repeats + 20/20 (same as 2009) lost 39%. NBC was flat and The CW jumped 60%.

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