DS Forums

 
 

The Ratings Thread (Part 12)


Closed Thread
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-10-2010, 11:54
iaindb
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,938
Also, surely if it peaked at 16 but only averaged 11 it would have had to have gone pretty low at some point, surely!
That's what I was thinking.

Maybe everyone was so at Ann Widdecombe's dancing, they forgot to switch over to X Factor until 8 o'clock.
iaindb is offline  
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 03-10-2010, 11:58
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
Saturday 2nd October Roundup
BBC One [inc. HD]
06:00- Breakfast 1.3m (28.3%)
10:00- Saturday Kitchen Live 1.8m (24.7%)
11:30- Nigella Kitchen 1.4m (19.5%)
12:15- Football Focus 1.4m (17.3%)
13:00- Inside Sport: Is Professionalism Killing Sport? 1.1m (13.1%)
13:30- Commonwealth Games 0.9m (10.7%)
14:15- Cycling: World Road Championships - Highlights 0.8m (7.5%)
16:30- Final Score 1.8m (14.1%)
17:10- BBC News 2.7m (18.7%)
17:30- Walk on the Wild Side 2.5m (15.4%)
19:00- Strictly Come Dancing 8.7m (41.6%)
19:05- Merlin 5.5m (22.5%)
19:40- The National Lottery: In It to Win It 4.1m (16.0%)
20:40- Casualty 4.9m (19.9%)
21:30- Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow 4.4m (19.5%)
22:15- BBC News 5.0m (24.8%)
22:30- Match of the Day 3.6m (24.7%)
23:50- The Football League Show 1.0m (14.4%)

ITV1 [inc. HD]
13:55- Never Say Never Again 1.0m (10.3%)
16:20- The Unforgettable Mollie Sugden 0.9m (7.5%)
17:05- ITV News & Weather 1.4m (9.4%)
17:20- New Britain Does the Funniest Things 1.7m (10.2%)
18:20- All Star Family Fortunes 3.0m (14.1%)
19:05- The X Factor 11.9m (47.3%)
21:00- When Piers Met Lord Sugar 5.2m (22.4%)
22:15- Hot Fuzz 2.5m (14.1%)
23:15- ITV News & Weather 1.8m (13.8%)
23:30- Hot Fuzz 1.4m (16.5%)

BBC Two
18:00- Dad's Army 1.4m (7.2%)
18:30- The RIBA Stirling Prize 2010: A Culture Show Special 0.5m (2.4%)
19:30- Blitz: The Bombing of Coventry: 1.1m (4.5%)
20:30- Golf: Ryder Cup Highlights 1.7m (7.2%)
22:30- Qi XL 1.2m (6.9%)
23:15- The Rob Brydon Show 0.7m (5.8%)

Channel 4 [inc. C4+1]
18:30- Channel 4 News 0.9m (3.8%)
19:00- Stephen Hawking's Universe 0.9m (3.1%)
21:00- Die Hard 2 1.6m (6.9%)
23:15- Phone Booth 0.5m (4.6%)

Five
18:00- Jackie Chan's First Strike 0.7m (3.0%)
19:40- NCIS 0.7m (2.7%)
20:35- NCIS 1.0m (4.0%)
21:30- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation 1.0m (4.4%)
22:30- CSI: Crime Scene Investigation 0.7m (4.6%)

BBC1 15-minute breakdown [exc. HD]
18:00 6.7m (34.8%)
18:15 7.9m (38.2%)
18:30 8.9m (41.5%)
18:45 9.8m (44.5%)
19:00 7.2m (31.1% )
19:15 5.3m (22.0%)
19:30 5.5m (22.3%)
...
20:45 4.4m (17.0%)
21:00 5.2m (21.9%)
21:15 5.3m (22.5%)

X Factor's 15 minute breakdown [exc. HD]
19:00- 7.6m (32.7%)
19:15- 10.0m (41.2%)
19:30- 10.3m (41.7%)
19:45- 11.9m (46.8%)
20:00- 11.7m (46.6%)
20:15- 12.0m (46.7%)
20:30- 12.3m (47.5%)
20:45- 11.9m (45.8%)
------------------------------------------------------------
Very strong rating for Strictly Come Dancing - its best rated 2nd episode of a series ever. Merlin held up very well and is actually up from last year's overnight series average of 5.2m, so the schedule this way round is better for BBC1 as both SCD and Merlin are up. The Lottery and Casualty pulled in pretty good numbers so overall BBC1 had a great night between 6 and midnight.

Low for All Star Family Fortunes, I thought it'd be dented against SCD but not by that much. It'll probably rate even worse next week due to the earlier start. Not to worry for ITV, though, as it varies a lot depending on competition and will be back to 5m+ against easier competition in the future. Excellent for TXF - up 18% from last year's equivalent episode and no Saturday episode last year got 11.9m+ until week 6 of the live shows which shows how strong it's rating this year. When Piers Met also rated well, the best for one of these post-TXF Saturday shows since IAC.
rzt is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 11:59
ghettoBLASTER!
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Moving to New Zealand 15th Jan
Posts: 4,636
Knew X Factor couldn't have peaked at 16 million
ghettoBLASTER! is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:00
Chris1964
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,020
Yes, the Beeb is forced to move its big shows to the margins of the schedule to accommodate Cowell's lust for global domination and takeover of the schedules.

Surely 3hrs 15 mins a weekend of the interminable TXF auditionees whittling down process (already nearly 2 months in already) is too much for even the biggest TXF fans?
That schedule for 2006 a couple of pages back shows how things have changed. SCD was ahead for several seasons -not massively, but it probably drove Cowell insane. I think the Beeb then pretty much voluntarily ran SCD early and with no overlap and the Cowell team made their big push to establish the show at the heart of primetime. When the Beeb tried to thrust SCD back into the overlap fray the battle was already lost. 3 million difference is amazing considering SCD used to be ahead but SCD is still breaking its own episode records so what has drawn more people to XF is something of a mystery given that its still doing what it did in 2006.
Chris1964 is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:00
NorfolkBird
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,392
Looks like SCD gave Merlin a bit of a boost. Pleased about that.
NorfolkBird is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:03
D.M.N.
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 29,512
I know this is said every week, but Merlin vs The X Factor is an example of good scheduling, as Merlin isn't dented by The X Factor, and looking at the breakdown actually takes away viewers from The X Factor. The X Factor opposition on BBC1 did well, Casualty in particular just bordering on the 5.0m mark.

Lord Sugar did well for ITV at 9pm, poor rating though for Family Fortunes - dented badly by Strictly which had a brilliant rating. I hope TV Burp is much higher than that next Saturday.
D.M.N. is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:16
Salv*
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Mayfair
Posts: 49,790
Brilliant for BBC1 as a whole, brilliant for X Factor, Strictly, BBC News and unfortunately good for Piers.... he will brag about this like no tomorrow.

Poor for C4 again.
Salv* is online now  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:20
iaindb
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,938
Brilliant for BBC1 as a whole, brilliant for X Factor, Strictly, BBC News and unfortunately good for Piers.... he will brag about this like no tomorrow.

Poor for C4 again.
Yes, bum!

But the BBC will be happy cos it's lots of free publicity for The Apprentice.
iaindb is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:29
GeorgeS
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,742
Why are ITV using TXF lead ins to boost the BBC Apprentice? Have they gone completely bonkers
GeorgeS is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:29
iaindb
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,938
I assume Casualty's ratings rose sharply at 9pm when TXF finished. If the BBC had put the news on at 8.40 and Casualty at 8.55, it could have had 5.5m, although TXF would probably have grabbed an even peakier peak.

WOTWS seemed to get a little booost from Strictly. ASFF seems to be the biggest loser but at that time of the evening something had to give. All the BBC's TXF opposition was well inside peak-time.
iaindb is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:31
iaindb
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,938
Why are ITV using TXF lead ins to boost the BBC Apprentice? Have they gone completely bonkers
Perhaps it was Alan Sugar's condition for agreeing to make the programme (which did after all deliver a good audience for ITV1).
iaindb is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:32
GeorgeS
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,742
Perhaps it was Alan Sugar's condition for agreeing to make the programme (which did after all deliver a good audience for ITV1).
Maybe daybreak will get the Apprentice rejects on too?
GeorgeS is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:33
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
Why are ITV using TXF lead ins to boost the BBC Apprentice? Have they gone completely bonkers
More like ITV cashing in on The Apprentice's success .
rzt is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:35
GeorgeS
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 17,742
More like ITV cashing in on The Apprentice's success .
So when the BBC covers TXF its advertising, when ITV reciprocates its cashing in?
GeorgeS is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:44
5 a day
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 12,381
deleted
5 a day is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:45
allgrownup
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,684
Good ratings for both Xfactor and SCD, as D.M.N. said, this is what happens when you compliment instead of compete.

Good to see SYTYCD back, it is one of my fav shows although the UK version needs a bit more thought put into it. Strictly production values have stepped up a gear, the same needs to be done with SYTYCD. Last year was testing the water, now I hope they go all out. Look at the Dutch version, 4 audition shows, two bootcamp weeks and then Top 18. I think the Beeb should at least air two audition shows and a seperate bootcamp show before the live shows. Bootcamp can be made a bit more exciting by including some dance tasks. Last year the Dutch version had a dance masterclass by Michael Jackson choreographer Travis Payne, this year they are being taught in two days to dance Swan Lake at the Bolshoi Ballet Academy in Moscow. All I'm saying is that a bit of effort will certainly help the perception of the show and Strictly so far is showing just that.
allgrownup is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:45
open_ended
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,469
Love how the ITV Press people on Twitter always give the peak first and then mention the average as an afterthought. Spin at its best.

Although not even they could make Daybreak's ratings look good.
open_ended is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:51
Rooftopcowboy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,552
why did XFactor rate so low between 7 and 7:15? did it start late? or did people just not realise it was on earlier.
Rooftopcowboy is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:53
rzt
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,788
why did XFactor rate so low between 7 and 7:15? did it start late? or did people just not realise it was on earlier.
It started at 7.05pm so 5 of those minutes would've been for All Star Family Fortunes which rated low. At a guess, X Factor would've averaged about 9m between 7.05-7.15pm. Usually X Factor starts relatively low and then builds throughout the show.

So when the BBC covers TXF its advertising, when ITV reciprocates its cashing in?
Well, I haven't seen the BBC schedule a 75 minute programme in primetime dedicated solely to one of the X Factor judges!
rzt is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:55
Brekkie
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Cymru
Posts: 12,702
BTW, The Sun's TV magazine today reveals the first 'special guest' on The X Factor next weekend is Joe McElderry. Not sure if that's for the Saturday show or the Sunday show.
Sunday I imagine. Also in their so called TV magazine (the old one was much better) they revealed Desperate Housewives returns to Channel 4 on Sunday 17th October - probably against Downton Abbey or something stupid.

Even better, watch SCD off air and Sky+ TV Burp and X Factor.

When SDC finishes watch the recording of TV Burp (spin through commercials) and then chase play X Factor. 4 hours 25 minutes of entertainment, an extra programme (the best of all three) and less adverts!!
Well no SCD for me, but Merlin for me then fast forward through the X Factor.

In response to various discussions on X-factor's fate next year and the reality show cycle on ITV, I wonder if they will start bidding on "The Voice" by Endemol in Cannes this week.

In `The Voice` only the good contestants get to audition in front of 4 mentors (big artists in their own rights) with a full live band and audience except the mentors will only be able to hear the contestants and sit with their backs turned to the contestants. If they like what they hear they push the button and they will turn over to see the contestant but by pushing the button they commit to this contestant as their mentor no matter what they look like. If more than one mentor pushes the contestant gets to choose their mentor. If noone pushes it is painful for the contestant but if all 4 mentors `want` the contestant it can get pretty painful for them.

The concept is pretty interesting IMO and could be good for ITV to have a show without Simon or Cheryl to air whilst Xfactor USA is on.
Sounds like an evolution of The X Factor itself - but just about unique enough to avoid the lawsuits.

Endemol has another programme which could be a good BB replacement called ZOOOM! in which ordinary people are followed 24-7 on TV and online and viewers get to decide how long this particular person is followed by talking about them on social media. If their popularity status gets too low they will be replaced by a new `personality` Looks like a good follow up to BB while incorporating social media into the mix.
After Seven Days, I'd suggest no. Another format I think could fill the void for C4 is "Tonne of Cash", where two teams of contestants are given a "tonne of cash" in the middle of a desert some way and have to get the cash home.

X Factor spoiler about the surprise next Saturday: http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...CHERYL-CRACKS/

Spoiler


D.M.N. Comment:

Spoiler
Well Daily Star, so take with a pinch of salt. I think though it's likely to end up being:
Spoiler


Saturday 2nd October Roundup
BBC One [inc. HD]
12:15- Football Focus 1.4m (17.3%)
13:00- Inside Sport: Is Professionalism Killing Sport? 1.1m (13.1%)
13:30- Commonwealth Games 0.9m (10.7%)
14:15- Cycling: World Road Championships - Highlights 0.8m (7.5%)
16:30- Final Score 1.8m (14.1%)
I'm guessing not as they weren't posted, but out of interest anyone know how C4 Racing does on a Saturday afternoon.

And an old argument I know, but I wonder if yesterday's events would have rated better if they had all been grouped together under the Grandstand banner.
Brekkie is offline Follow this poster on Twitter  
Old 03-10-2010, 12:56
Rooftopcowboy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,552
What peak do we reckon for XFactor tonight then?

the Sunday episodes always seem to do better at this stage, its the big 'who's in the top12' reveal, competition is Antiques Roadshow/Inspector George Gently, Ryder Cup and the weather here is absolutely abysmal.

I'm going to guess at 14million peak.
Rooftopcowboy is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 13:04
allgrownup
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,684
Sounds like an evolution of The X Factor itself - but just about unique enough to avoid the lawsuits.
It is oddly compelling to watch, thought I was done with singing contests but this is refreshing. Fun part is also the mentors playing mind-f***s on each other. One girl it took a while for any of the mentors to push the button but eventually one did and watched her absolutely stone faced so you could see the other mentors doubting whether to push and they didn't. Turns out the girl was a "complete package" and the mentor wanted her all for himself!

Well Daily Star, so take with a pinch of salt. I think though it's likely to end up being:
Spoiler

Or they could have some double eliminations for the first couple of weeks. Three in the dangerzone and only one can be saved.
allgrownup is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 13:16
sn_22
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,294
Great ratings all around last night. The BBC will be thrilled to see Strictly back posting best-ever numbers on its opening weekend, and Merlin took a nice bounce last night too. It's an excellent foil for XF. And despite some phenominal ratings on the other side, IITWI, Casualty and Comedy Roadshow have been extremely solid in the 4m range.

Fantastic for XF once again, and the Piers programme did very strongly too. Don't worry about his bragging though. He's off to America soon, and airing on CNN, he's bound to get thumped in the ratings. That should put his tail back between his legs for when he comes over for his ITV commitments. Very poor for ASFF last night, but then again it's one of them shows that seems highly slot and competition dependant.
sn_22 is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 13:18
Georged123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 5,294
Maybe daybreak will get the Apprentice rejects on too?
Lord Sugar is scheduled to appear on Daybreak on Wedneday himself, although that wont do anything to The Apprentice's ratings as no one will be watching.
Georged123 is offline  
Old 03-10-2010, 13:19
RobbieSykes123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 12,049
I know this is said every week, but Merlin vs The X Factor is an example of good scheduling, as Merlin isn't dented by The X Factor, and looking at the breakdown actually takes away viewers from The X Factor.
The Beeb are missing a trick in that case in not padding out Merlin to 2 hours a week...

Brilliant for BBC1 as a whole, brilliant for X Factor, Strictly, BBC News and unfortunately good for Piers.... he will brag about this like no tomorrow.
I suspect it got 5m in spite of Piers and not because of him. Lord Sugar was the draw last night, not the ex-Mirror editor.

I got bored of the show as it went on, thinking it was going to be a proper studio head to head, not another padded out "Piers snoops around big houses and dines in fancy restaurants" filler. But AMS was on decent form at least, despite clearly having little warmth towards Piers - like 99.9% of the rest of the population.

Awfully decent of ITV though to fluff the Beeb's big returning show of the week.

Why are ITV using TXF lead ins to boost the BBC Apprentice? Have they gone completely bonkers
Because they knew an hour with a key BBC star, who has a big returning show this week, would hold more of the TXF lead in than the rubbish they usually put out post TXF on a Saturday?

Just seen the schedules for next weekend. TXF from 7.40-10.10pm next Saturday, then another padded hour to announce the first evictee on Sunday? That should test the viewing endurance of even the most bone-idle of ITV viewers, and thus depress the averages.
RobbieSykes123 is offline Follow this poster on Twitter  
 
Closed Thread




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 17:42.