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The Ratings Thread (Part 12)
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D.M.N.
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Friday Oct 15th

**Daybreak (ITV1) 630,000 / 16%
BBC Breakfast 1.5m (37%)
**lowest yet

BBC1

TOS - 4.3m
EE - 8.5m
QI - 4m
New Tricks - 6.8m
News - 4.4m

ITV1

Emmers - 6.7m
Corrie - 8,4
Cheetah Kingdom - 2.7m
Corrie - 8.7m
O'Grady - 3.37m
News at Ten - 1.9m


BBC2
Gardeners World - 1.7m
Norman Wisdom Story - 2.4m
Rob Brydon - 2.3m


C4 (main channel only)
Davina's Comedy Roast - 1.07m
8/10 Cats - 1.4m”

Oh dear for Daybreak - extremely low. And an for Channel 4, pitiful figure for Comedy Roast.

Coronation Street's had a good week I must admit, not often to see it level with EastEnders on a Friday.

New Tricks did well, while its pretty obvious O'Grady's rise last week was down to no New Tricks in Scotland.
Nasty_Robinson
16-10-2010
daybreak is just not working with ITV, time to bring back GMTV
Bushmills
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Nasty_Robinson:
“daybreak is just not working with ITV, time to bring back GMTV”

It's a really shocking figure - can't remember GMTV ever going so low. ITV can no longer parrot the line about Daybreak "making a solid start and arresting the GMTV decline". It's so obviously untrue.
Nasty_Robinson
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“It's a really shocking figure - can't remember GMTV ever going so low. ITV can no longer parrot the line about Daybreak "making a solid start and arresting the GMTV decline". It's so obviously untrue.”

yeah thats true. somthing drastic needs to happen
dan2008
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Oh dear for Daybreak - extremely low. And an for Channel 4, pitiful figure for Comedy Roast.

Coronation Street's had a good week I must admit, not often to see it level with EastEnders on a Friday.


New Tricks did well, while its pretty obvious O'Grady's rise last week was down to no New Tricks in Scotland.”

EastEnders has a brilliant week and this storyline was not advertised or hyped up.
Yesterdays corrie was advertised on ITV the past week or so as Friday 7:30 & 8:30
ftv
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“It's a really shocking figure - can't remember GMTV ever going so low. ITV can no longer parrot the line about Daybreak "making a solid start and arresting the GMTV decline". It's so obviously untrue.”

I think the lowest GMTV ever went (at least in recent memory) was about 660,000 in the dog days of August when everyone was on holiday.
dave01
16-10-2010
Bushmills, do you have the rating for Neighbours' 6000th episode yesterday please? (5:30pm on C5).
Bushmills
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Bushmills, do you have the rating for Neighbours' 6000th episode yesterday please? (5:30pm on C5).”

Yep, it got 1.37m /9.4%
Dancc
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Yep, it got 1.37m /9.4%”

Anything for The Mentalist 9pm?

Thanks in advance.
dave01
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“Yep, it got 1.37m /9.4%”

Thanks.
A bit of a boost relative to how recent week's episodes have been rating but I was hoping for 1.6m +.
EDIT: This time last year it was pulling 1.4's & 1.5's on a daily basis.
Nasty_Robinson
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by dave01:
“Thanks.
A bit of a boost relative to how recent week's episodes have been rating but I was hoping for 1.6m +.”

nah. many fans watch Neighbours on Demand Five these days and over the weekends like me on Fiver
dave01
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Nasty_Robinson:
“nah. many fans watch Neighbours on Demand Five these days and over the weekends like me on Fiver”

Me too actually, I mostly watch the 7pm episode on FIVER.
Bushmills
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Anything for The Mentalist 9pm?

Thanks in advance.”

1.71m / 7.3%

And 1.6m / 7% for Eddie Stobart at 8pm.
Dancc
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Nasty_Robinson:
“nah. many fans watch Neighbours on Demand Five these days and over the weekends like me on Fiver”

Or at lunchtime.

Neighbours is a bit down on what its capable of but you still can't argue with a 9% share for Channel Five in any timeslot.

As for the quality, I thought Friday's episode was great. Better than H&A at the moment IMO.
Dancc
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bushmills:
“1.71m / 7.3%

And 1.6m / 7% for Eddie Stobart at 8pm.”

Hugely disappointing for The Mentalist. Looks like the Friday night slot opposite New Tricks hurt it.

Thanks for the figures. Eddie Stobart did very well.
Nasty_Robinson
16-10-2010
how do the 1pm/1:30pm news do for the BBC?
D.M.N.
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Hugely disappointing for The Mentalist. Looks like the Friday night slot opposite New Tricks hurt it. ”

I don't think it helped either that repeats were in the exact same slot in the preceeding weeks.
Score
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Hugely disappointing for The Mentalist. Looks like the Friday night slot opposite New Tricks hurt it.

Thanks for the figures. Eddie Stobart did very well.”

They should have waited until January to start The Mentalist if they wanted to keep the Friday slot (which works well for it). Launching it against New Tricks was never going to work well and with The Event launching against it next week and I'm A Celebrity and Children In Need just around the corner starting it last night seems utterly stupid, especially as it means it'll probably have to take a break at some point early next year where it would be getting 2m+. Shame as I watched it for the first time in ages last night and enjoyed it.
ZoeMcCallister
16-10-2010
Mixed night really. New Tricks is remaining extremely steady and with large timeshifts, I reckon the Friday move is justified. Everything else on BBC1 remaining steady as usual, and they now have a very strong varied lineup on Fridays of a magazine show, factual, soap, comedy panel show, drama, news and post watershed entertainment.

Absolutely awful for Daybreak and I don't know where ITV can go with this one-they can't really go back to GMTV so I guess they'll just have to hope Daybreak starts increasing. If not then I can see Chiles & Bleakley being transferred to other ITV projects. Also rather underwhelming for POG after last weeks 4m rating & I think this show would work better on a Saturday evening, because they don't have much post watershed stuff.

Excellent for Corrie-mirroring the good quality of the episodes and 8.7m for the 2nd episode is fantastic for what it normally the lowest rated episode of the week. Hopefully after a small 2010 blip in ratings it's onwards and upwards for Corrie as it approaches the 50th anniversary.

Another flop for CH4 which is becoming less surprising and surely they must be worried that FIVE are beating them in a large number of primetime slots-more than I can ever remember. But even though The Mentalist comfortably beat Comedy Roast, 1.7m is pretty average for the start of the new series which has been fast tracked, but not surprising considering it had NT as competition and repeat ratings took a dive when NT started. Pretty stupid scheduling tbh, but it will bring in a huge timeshift. Neighbours should also be averaging 1.5m+ on a regular basis now imo.
Brekkie
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by jonnyblack:
“Coronation Street doesn't "feel" very ITV2. It's much more suited to ITV3 if you ask me. And if it was on that channel it would no doubt be able to take a more permanent slot.”

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Or put the repeats on ITV3 instead. Far easier to find a regular slot there.”

I'm not sure it would be considering ITV3 have a lot of two-hour crime dramas in the 10pm slot, which would leave Corrie repeats after midnight. I think it's actually easier to give it a regular 10.30pm/11pm slot on ITV2 by just planning the schedule out a bit better - and putting any film they probably show again tomorrow anyway on after Corrie rather than before it.


Originally Posted by CSHY:
“I'm hearing 1.27m for Comedy Roast.
is that worse than the 10pm ones?”

That really is shocking. Most other C4 flops I've seen coming, but thought that would comfortably be over 2m - but heck, that's what happens when you make Friday nights more about Embarrassing Bodies than brilliant comedy.

Will be interesting to see how badly Pillars of the Earth does tonight - so annoying C4 are wasting such shows against The X Factor. If they just stopped and thought for five minutes about their scheduling and commissioning they could soon sort the channel out.

I'm fearing though next year we might find out they've commissioned anything and everything to fill the Big Brother void rather than taking a more considered approach.
fodg09
16-10-2010
Will be interesting to see what the BBC NC peak was on Wednesday when the figures finally come out,
Quote:
“The BBC spent £100,000 sending 26 staff to cover Chile mine rescue. Third highest viewing figures ever for BBC News 24. Money well spent?”

http://twitter.com/#!/The_MediaBlog
all_night
16-10-2010
Not sure if it was mentioned past few days but to confirm overnights for Wednesday :

BBC News Channel - 5.16% with average audience of 514,000
Sky News - 2.86% with average audience 285,000

I'm not sure if that is for a specific period or all day.
nick202
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
“ That really is shocking. Most other C4 flops I've seen coming, but thought that would comfortably be over 2m - but heck, that's what happens when you make Friday nights more about Embarrassing Bodies than brilliant comedy.”

Agreed, although the trailer for Comedy Roast made it look absolutely appalling. I also think the whole 'Roast' concept is not something which translates well to the UK.
sn_22
16-10-2010
Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“Absolutely awful for Daybreak and I don't know where ITV can go with this one-they can't really go back to GMTV so I guess they'll just have to hope Daybreak starts increasing. If not then I can see Chiles & Bleakley being transferred to other ITV projects.”

Easier said than done in some cases. Chiles is fine, as he's got all the football to present. Bleakley transferred with far fewer concrete jobs lined up. Without Daybreak, where does she go? They can't pluck a successful entertainment format out of nowhere for her and there's going to be some resistance if she's parachuted into a current one. The stigma of Daybreak, and the seeming public backlash against her, could be hard to break - though I suppose £4m says they've got to try!

Friday nights are looking like a bit of a disaster for Channel 4 at the moment, to be frank. 8 out of 10 Cats has clearly seen better days and looks lost without Big Brother - while the Comedy Roast just hasn't taken off like it was meant to. The night used to be so huge for them just 5 or 6 years ago. What's happened? A serious rethink is needed...
C14E
16-10-2010
The Financial Times have done a little piece on the Cowell/Fuller/Murdoch triangle. Most of it focusses on the peculiar relationship and the secrecy which surrounds it but they also look at the effect of the Cowell/Fuller split on FOX broadcast network;

Quote:
“The bigger question, adds a person close to the Cowell camp, is how Fox treats the two programmes. “They have more upside with X Factor than with Idol,” he argues. In other words, the network has less to gain from Fuller’s show. Idol’s ratings success over the years strengthened the hand of Fuller and other producers when negotiating with the network for programming that went beyond that contractually agreed. This meant Fox often had to pay top dollar for additional hours.

All that could change, though, thanks to X Factor – particularly if the show is a big hit. “The best thing that is going to happen to X Factor is that Idol negotiates for additional hours,” says the source. “The stronger X Factor is, the more negotiating leverage you have with Idol.” Fox, he says, “will make X Factor a priority and Idol will become something to fill out the schedule”.

Fox declined to comment on its plans for X Factor, or how it would allocate resources. But a source familiar with the production process pointed out that the company had put its money where its mouth is to get Hollywood actress and singer Jennifer Lopez and Aerosmith front man Steven Tyler on board as judges. “Fox is paying what it paid to Cowell,” the source said, pointing out that Cowell was one of the best paid stars on US television. “Why pay so much if they expected it to fail?”

But the new judges have big shoes to fill – and it is unclear if they will be as big a hit with viewers. “I don’t get the new judges,” says the media executive who worked with Cowell and Fuller on Idol. “In almost all of these shows, celebrity is not the dominant factor. What matters is how good they are in front of the camera … the idea that getting some has-beens in as judges will work is totally wrong.”

The source with ties to the new US version of X Factor agrees. “The new Idol line-up sucks. Steven Tyler was a huge star, but my kids don’t know who he is. And J-Lo can’t get arrested these days.”

Publicly, Fox has been very enthusiastic about the new Idol series. But word is that behind the scenes Peter Rice, entertainment chairman of Fox Broadcasting, has cooled on the show. “He wasn’t as enthusiastic about it as he was when he first came into the job,” a TV executive told me.”

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/3b1653a0-d...44feabdc0.html

It's quite an unusual situation that FOX find them in. While they aren't really paying as much as they paid Cowell (J'Lo is on $12m according to Deadline - Cowell took home $36m), they do seem to be giving it a real push and allowing to push into "X Factor territory". They've got Jimmy Iovine "mentoring" the acts, they've lowered the age limit to 16 and are hinting at more on stage movement from the contestants (whether that means full blown choreography, I'm not sure).

And then there's the risk that this time next year, FOX have a weakened American Idol and X Factor bombs. I just can't see XF reaching the kind of ratings that Idol had last season - nothing will ever come close again with the way US TV is.
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