Some should say that! I must be the only person who hated Vincent and the Doctor though so I will shut up. Invisible chickens and manic depression, Richard Curtis **** off and leave Doctor Who alone!

... and I liked you. Why should you shut up if it is your opinion?. I love it, it doesn't mean that everyone loves it as well. I got some criticims because I actually loathed Cold Blood! I know other people liked it.

Haha, sorry. I will make it up to you somehow.

I think my main problem was the monster being so crap when it was not actually needed. (I hope somebody does not try and explain metaphors because I did get it, i just didn't like it).

Oh and don't even start me on the crappy Hollyoaks style music at the end. Oh God. Dire.

Cold Blood? Meh, I will watch it again before I judge properly.

I didn't mind the monster, even if it had not been meant as a metaphor (at least it wasn't a human in a mask <shudder>). Again I quite liked the music, but I like Athlete (even if I don't watch Hollyoaks). I loved the acting in it (Amy all of a sudden became someone I would like to talk to), I think it's great that kids might get introduced so something like manic depression or depression via Doctor Who.

I thought the Vincent actor was marvellous. It's just my opinion though and not an attempt to convince you to like it. After all we all like different things.

.... now Cold Blood on the other hand <shudder>. I've not rewatched it!

No, I totally agree with you. It's great that everyone likes different episodes. (I wonder if anyone actually likes Fear Her?)

I can see why Vincent and the Doctor appeals to people, I was just a bit bored. I had similar feelings during the beast below.

Humans in masks I still think of the classic series autons when you see their eyes through the holes. Amazing

I liked Fear Her. I think I'm one of a tiny few though.

I didn't get Vincent and the Doctor either. The only bit that really got to me was the very ending when Amy saw her name on the vase of Sunflowers. Sometimes I feel like I should love it because so many others do and I'm missing something because I don't.

Wow, I am impressed about Fear Her. To be honest, it's not the story it is that bloody annoying child. Nearly annoyed me as much as Dakota Fanning used to. Miserable looking cow. Even when she was meant to look happy!

I know what you mean about wanting to like it, I felt the same. When I got into work and some of them hated it too I was much happier.

When you read the synopsis or if you go through the comments at the time of the episode it all sounds really good and very emotional. Muttley did a reaccount of it when it aired and I was reading as she posted and thought yes that was good, great lines, great scenes. But then when I watched it later again for myself it just still didn't hit the spot.

The worst/best thing about it was Huw Edwards' cameo, I think!

But every one keeps saying 'The Silence will fall' in an ominous way. Surely if it were a cult linked to something bad, having it fall would be a good thing.

Maybe the Silence are a cult, but they are the ones charged with keeping Omega at bay, and it's their fall that sets him free to cause havoc.

Or if not Omega, someone else who's really bad (and possibly original...).

Got to agree 100% with this. Fan speculation is good fun, but it's only a spoiler if someone with some serious inside knowledge decides to share it, for example when Steven Moffat drops some hints as to what’s coming up in the next series. Which, in order to keep people wanting to find out what happens next, I fully understand and expect. I could post all sorts of theories as to the nature of the Doctor and Amy's relationship, what kind of terrible mistake Rory almost makes and what the Silence is, but they wouldn't be spoilers because I wouldn't know whether I was right or not, and neither would anyone reading them, unless they were involved in making the series. So really, I don't think hiding our guesses behind spoiler tags is necessary.

Amy being a regenerated Susan could be an option. Whatever happened her anyway? Do all Galifreyans regenerate even if they are not Time Lords? Also Susan is the Doctors granddaughter so naturally he had at lest one child. Maybe he/she wasn't killed in the Master's rebellion and somehow hid themselves in time as Amy.

What about the end of "Flesh and Stone"? That would be seriously dodgy if that was the case. Besides, I think Moffat would have thought about those sorts of big reveals by then. He thought of the plot for series 5 while RTD wrote "The Next Doctor". He does it all in advance I reckon. Keeps it all planned out.

hmm. Welcome back

Look at the date

He's not back.....yet

Oh don't worry I'm sure a few seconds of Handwavium can sort all that out.

Or had a chlild .. Making Amy his Great Grandaughter...

From the Tardis Wikia thing...


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Nice idea, though depending if you find "spin off" audios Canon or not (Mentally ducks, awaiting the response/flaming for mentioning canonicity in a thread), the upcoming Big Finish adventures with Susan travelling with the McGann Doctor, might answer this question....
I suspect that Amy is really...

I've not really heard about the stories with the McGann Doctor so wouldn't like to comment, just an idea I had about what the teaser meant about Amy

I'm not really subscribing to the idea that with Amy, or River are Time Lords .. Just something about that premise makes it a little to easy for me.

Amy I don't think because we met Amelia which says to me that she was born on Earth and for the most part of her life led a pretty mudane existence (not including the times she met the Doctor).

I'm thinking there relationship is something more subtle and one that Amy isn't aware of at all.

There will be revelations, but they won't be anything to do with rewriting the entire nature of the characters. Our perception of them, their relationship with the Doctor, yes - but they won't suddenly turn out to be different people.

That's my prediction, and I think it's a safe one.

I would tend to agree with you there - it would completely cheapen the parts of Amy's parents for her to be anything other than a regular human girl.

And how would they be able to explain the fact that she was a little girl and grew up normally (as far as we know)? The chamelion arched Doctor stayed the smae age, so did the Master - it doesn't work, and - in my opinion - is as rubbish a stroyline as the mis-predicted: 'it was all a dream' that lots of people seemed to want for series 5 (which is an absolutely terrible way of telling a far-reaching story arc, btw...).

That may be true of the Doctor but didn’t Professor Yana say that he was found as young child on the shores of the Silver Devastation with the Fob Watch.

If that is true and not a creation of The Chameleon Arc then anything is possible until ruled out by a line of dialogue.

Well the Doctor or John Smith, saw himself get old....the visions of what could be if he stayed human......although if he did then the family would have destroyed Earth anyway...so those visions wouldn't come true anyway....so yeah I guess that doesn't prove that even as a human the Doctor can age....

and as for the Master....again....it depends if it was just a story like John's childhood was just a story......

I think the evidence suggests that the story of Yana's youth was just that - a story. The Doctor had memories of his parents when he was John - yet he clearly hadn't been a child (as evidenced with Martha telling us as such - and she wouldn't have been there had he regressed to childhood and grown up).

But even so - it still stands that it cheapens the whole of series 5, and SM is a much more sophisticated and talented writer than that. He would have more nous about himself than to undermine his own writing.

Doctor Who is in capable hands (and I would dread to think what would happen if it were to be written by people on here - myself included)!

I don't think you have anything to worry about.....every year (well as long as i have been going Who mad on the net) a companion seems to have a fob watch just because the Master and the Doctor did.....Donna is either the Rani, or Wilf is another Time Lord...and so on....so if RTD never made them to be more than humans....I don't think Moff will either....River...who knows, but Amy, very likely she is just human....