Vision HD

masona2 · 24-09-2010, 21:30

Hi,

I've just had a horrible thought.....

What if BT are waiting for the launch of YouView before launching their in-the-pipeline HD box?

I'm already internet HD enabled in my area, but theres been nothing said by BT in regard to this.

GreenBars · 24-09-2010, 23:38

I'd bet money on this being the case.

MostynDS · 25-09-2010, 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by masona2

Hi,

I've just had a horrible thought.....

What if BT are waiting for the launch of YouView before launching their in-the-pipeline HD box?

I'm already internet HD enabled in my area, but theres been nothing said by BT in regard to this.

I would have thought that Vision is a dead man walking. It will be replaced by YouView next year sometime. So I guess there's little chance of a HD box being launched in the mean time.

And WTF is 'internet HD'???

trxster3000 · 28-09-2010, 13:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by MostynDS

And WTF is 'internet HD'???

Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream (I know FreeviewHD comes thru your aerial)? Still it will allow you to download HD films a lot faster than on a 6MB connection.

YouView could be BT's saviour IF they get they're act together but my money's on GoogleTV.

iniltous · 28-09-2010, 18:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by trxster3000

Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream (I know FreeviewHD comes thru your aerial)? Still it will allow you to download HD films a lot faster than on a 6MB connection.

YouView could be BT's saviour IF they get they're act together but my money's on GoogleTV.

BT infinity adverts says you can watch several HD sources at the same time, as well as surfing, uploading photes, streaming music etc...

MostynDS · 28-09-2010, 18:59

I Want 'Internet HD' like Masona. He's enabled. Why aren't I, or anyone else in the real world?

stuntmaster · 28-09-2010, 19:52

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Originally Posted by iniltous

BT infinity adverts says you can watch several HD sources at the same time, as well as surfing, uploading photes, streaming music etc...

Well spotted, kinda hints at the whole multicasting thing. perhaps infinity will be like virgin media?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MostynDS

I Want 'Internet HD' like Masona. He's enabled. Why aren't I, or anyone else in the real world?

hehehe thats a good one but yes masona is referring to infinity.

oddly for me. eastleigh and fair oak are listed as being enabled soon, wonder if that means I'd get enabled? Although my address states southampton, I actually come under Eastleigh borough council so if Bt were allowed to upgrade as per approval of them then surely they'd cover West End too?

looks promising though.

I think if BT carry on as they are then yes it will become stale and probably dead considering the upcomming products on the horizon. however if they do get infinity up and used it to stream channels down like virgin/talk talk do then quite possibly BT could well mix things up a little. seeing as the linear pay TV system hasn't really changed for years.

BT linear channels + youview + BT VOD.... could rival virgin quite well and would cause sky a bit of bother...

Dacco · 28-09-2010, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by trxster3000

Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream

20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently.

masona2 · 29-09-2010, 00:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacco

20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently.

Hi Dacco, PM.

20mb for doing what is the minimum?

victorslot · 29-09-2010, 10:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacco

20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently.

But how many in the UK can get that let alone the Infinity product. At the rate BT are upgrading it will be years before YouView will be a viable VOD product for all.

trxster3000 · 29-09-2010, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by victorslot

But how many in the UK can get that let alone the Infinity product. At the rate BT are upgrading it will be years before YouView will be a viable VOD product for all.

You'll be surprised. I'm in an almost rural location just outside High Wycombe and SamKnows says our exchange will be enabled in December (2011).

BT are currently busy digging up all the streets!

Dacco · 01-10-2010, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by masona2

Hi Dacco, PM.

20mb for doing what is the minimum?

Streaming HD films and live TV. Could be even less now, due to more advanced tech and codecs, was a while ago I read about it.

scotty2808 · 01-10-2010, 18:02

Vision runs on ~1.5mbps at the moment.
Picture quality is good and not far off DVD quality.

If they can double the bit rate it would be a massive leap in quality.
What's BBC HD on Freeview at just now - it is not about 8mbps ?

Even getting close to that would be a start.

steven3001 · 02-10-2010, 18:55

I keep saying it and will say it again Sky and Virgin should fear the upcoming changes in how we watch TV

Infinity broadband is rolling out very fast. Id say most will be done or done shortly after the digital switch over, by then freeview will be available to pretty much everyone

Youview plus Vision plus freeview, the place to be

stuntmaster · 02-10-2010, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by steven3001

I keep saying it and will say it again Sky and Virgin should fear the upcoming changes in how we watch TV

Infinity broadband is rolling out very fast. Id say most will be done or done shortly after the digital switch over, by then freeview will be available to pretty much everyone

Youview plus Vision plus freeview, the place to be

Exactly what i said above...

betsvigi9 · 03-10-2010, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuntmaster

Well spotted, kinda hints at the whole multicasting thing. perhaps infinity will be like virgin media?

hehehe thats a good one but yes masona is referring to infinity.

oddly for me. eastleigh and fair oak are listed as being enabled soon, wonder if that means I'd get enabled? Although my address states southampton, I actually come under Eastleigh borough council so if Bt were allowed to upgrade as per approval of them then surely they'd cover West End too?

looks promising though.

I think if BT carry on as they are then yes it will become stale and probably dead considering the upcomming products on the horizon. however if they do get infinity up and used it to stream channels down like virgin/talk talk do then quite possibly BT could well mix things up a little. seeing as the linear pay TV system hasn't really changed for years.

BT linear channels + youview + BT VOD.... could rival virgin quite well and would cause sky a bit of bother...

Stuntmaster, I think it is the Eastleigh exchange that will be enabled, so if you are on the Eastleigh exchange then you will be able to get Infinity. My exchange isn't even on the list yet, so it looks like I won't be getting it for a few years.

ojobson · 04-10-2010, 11:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by trxster3000

You'll be surprised. I'm in an almost rural location just outside High Wycombe and SamKnows says our exchange will be enabled in December (2011).

BT are currently busy digging up all the streets!

BT are upgrading cabinet boxes 1 through 90 in High Wycombe at the moment (your roadside cabinet needs to be connected to the exchange via fibre) and my cabinet is number 113 out of 115 in total in High Wycombe. To say I'm unhappy is an understatement!!

trxster3000 · 21-10-2010, 15:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by ojobson

BT are upgrading cabinet boxes 1 through 90 in High Wycombe at the moment (your roadside cabinet needs to be connected to the exchange via fibre) and my cabinet is number 113 out of 115 in total in High Wycombe. To say I'm unhappy is an understatement!!

How unlucky can you get, know how you feel and thought it was only me that this sort of thing happened to! Still doesn't look like you'll be waiting long, especially if it's a big success.

masona2 · 21-10-2010, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by trxster3000

How unlucky can you get, know how you feel and thought it was only me that this sort of thing happened to! Still doesn't look like you'll be waiting long, especially if it's a big success.

Especially as Youview is being launched in the first half of next year.

HD TV here we come!

24-09-2010, 21:30	#1
masona2 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 780	Vision HD Hi, I've just had a horrible thought..... What if BT are waiting for the launch of YouView before launching their in-the-pipeline HD box? I'm already internet HD enabled in my area, but theres been nothing said by BT in regard to this.

24-09-2010, 23:38	#2
GreenBars Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 48	I'd bet money on this being the case.

25-09-2010, 10:24	#3
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	Quote: Originally Posted by masona2 Hi, I've just had a horrible thought..... What if BT are waiting for the launch of YouView before launching their in-the-pipeline HD box? I'm already internet HD enabled in my area, but theres been nothing said by BT in regard to this. I would have thought that Vision is a dead man walking. It will be replaced by YouView next year sometime. So I guess there's little chance of a HD box being launched in the mean time. And WTF is 'internet HD'???

28-09-2010, 13:54	#4
trxster3000 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 113	Quote: Originally Posted by MostynDS And WTF is 'internet HD'??? Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream (I know FreeviewHD comes thru your aerial)? Still it will allow you to download HD films a lot faster than on a 6MB connection. YouView could be BT's saviour IF they get they're act together but my money's on GoogleTV.

28-09-2010, 18:23	#5
iniltous Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 534	Quote: Originally Posted by trxster3000 Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream (I know FreeviewHD comes thru your aerial)? Still it will allow you to download HD films a lot faster than on a 6MB connection. YouView could be BT's saviour IF they get they're act together but my money's on GoogleTV. BT infinity adverts says you can watch several HD sources at the same time, as well as surfing, uploading photes, streaming music etc...

28-09-2010, 18:59	#6
MostynDS Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 773	I Want 'Internet HD' like Masona. He's enabled. Why aren't I, or anyone else in the real world?

28-09-2010, 19:52	#7
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by iniltous BT infinity adverts says you can watch several HD sources at the same time, as well as surfing, uploading photes, streaming music etc... Well spotted, kinda hints at the whole multicasting thing. perhaps infinity will be like virgin media? Quote: Originally Posted by MostynDS I Want 'Internet HD' like Masona. He's enabled. Why aren't I, or anyone else in the real world? hehehe thats a good one but yes masona is referring to infinity. oddly for me. eastleigh and fair oak are listed as being enabled soon, wonder if that means I'd get enabled? Although my address states southampton, I actually come under Eastleigh borough council so if Bt were allowed to upgrade as per approval of them then surely they'd cover West End too? looks promising though. I think if BT carry on as they are then yes it will become stale and probably dead considering the upcomming products on the horizon. however if they do get infinity up and used it to stream channels down like virgin/talk talk do then quite possibly BT could well mix things up a little. seeing as the linear pay TV system hasn't really changed for years. BT linear channels + youview + BT VOD.... could rival virgin quite well and would cause sky a bit of bother...

28-09-2010, 22:44	#8
Dacco Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 47°9′ S, 126°43′ W Posts: 2,948	Quote: Originally Posted by trxster3000 Go faster (40MB) broadband I suspect, but not sure if even 100MB is enough to stream 20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently.

29-09-2010, 00:20	#9
masona2 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 780	Quote: Originally Posted by Dacco 20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently. Hi Dacco, PM. 20mb for doing what is the minimum?

29-09-2010, 10:19	#10
victorslot Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 533	Quote: Originally Posted by Dacco 20Mb(minimum)is enough apparently. But how many in the UK can get that let alone the Infinity product. At the rate BT are upgrading it will be years before YouView will be a viable VOD product for all.

29-09-2010, 12:19	#11
trxster3000 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 113	Quote: Originally Posted by victorslot But how many in the UK can get that let alone the Infinity product. At the rate BT are upgrading it will be years before YouView will be a viable VOD product for all. You'll be surprised. I'm in an almost rural location just outside High Wycombe and SamKnows says our exchange will be enabled in December (2011). BT are currently busy digging up all the streets!

01-10-2010, 13:18	#12
Dacco Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 47°9′ S, 126°43′ W Posts: 2,948	Quote: Originally Posted by masona2 Hi Dacco, PM. 20mb for doing what is the minimum? Streaming HD films and live TV. Could be even less now, due to more advanced tech and codecs, was a while ago I read about it.

01-10-2010, 18:02	#13
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	Vision runs on ~1.5mbps at the moment. Picture quality is good and not far off DVD quality. If they can double the bit rate it would be a massive leap in quality. What's BBC HD on Freeview at just now - it is not about 8mbps ? Even getting close to that would be a start.

02-10-2010, 18:55	#14
steven3001 Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 629	I keep saying it and will say it again Sky and Virgin should fear the upcoming changes in how we watch TV Infinity broadband is rolling out very fast. Id say most will be done or done shortly after the digital switch over, by then freeview will be available to pretty much everyone Youview plus Vision plus freeview, the place to be

02-10-2010, 20:31	#15
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by steven3001 I keep saying it and will say it again Sky and Virgin should fear the upcoming changes in how we watch TV Infinity broadband is rolling out very fast. Id say most will be done or done shortly after the digital switch over, by then freeview will be available to pretty much everyone Youview plus Vision plus freeview, the place to be Exactly what i said above...

03-10-2010, 11:33	#16
betsvigi9 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 389	Quote: Originally Posted by stuntmaster Well spotted, kinda hints at the whole multicasting thing. perhaps infinity will be like virgin media? hehehe thats a good one but yes masona is referring to infinity. oddly for me. eastleigh and fair oak are listed as being enabled soon, wonder if that means I'd get enabled? Although my address states southampton, I actually come under Eastleigh borough council so if Bt were allowed to upgrade as per approval of them then surely they'd cover West End too? looks promising though. I think if BT carry on as they are then yes it will become stale and probably dead considering the upcomming products on the horizon. however if they do get infinity up and used it to stream channels down like virgin/talk talk do then quite possibly BT could well mix things up a little. seeing as the linear pay TV system hasn't really changed for years. BT linear channels + youview + BT VOD.... could rival virgin quite well and would cause sky a bit of bother... Stuntmaster, I think it is the Eastleigh exchange that will be enabled, so if you are on the Eastleigh exchange then you will be able to get Infinity. My exchange isn't even on the list yet, so it looks like I won't be getting it for a few years.

04-10-2010, 11:03	#17
ojobson Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	Quote: Originally Posted by trxster3000 You'll be surprised. I'm in an almost rural location just outside High Wycombe and SamKnows says our exchange will be enabled in December (2011). BT are currently busy digging up all the streets! BT are upgrading cabinet boxes 1 through 90 in High Wycombe at the moment (your roadside cabinet needs to be connected to the exchange via fibre) and my cabinet is number 113 out of 115 in total in High Wycombe. To say I'm unhappy is an understatement!!

21-10-2010, 15:01	#18
trxster3000 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 113	Quote: Originally Posted by ojobson BT are upgrading cabinet boxes 1 through 90 in High Wycombe at the moment (your roadside cabinet needs to be connected to the exchange via fibre) and my cabinet is number 113 out of 115 in total in High Wycombe. To say I'm unhappy is an understatement!! How unlucky can you get, know how you feel and thought it was only me that this sort of thing happened to! Still doesn't look like you'll be waiting long, especially if it's a big success.

21-10-2010, 19:40	#19
masona2 Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 780	Quote: Originally Posted by trxster3000 How unlucky can you get, know how you feel and thought it was only me that this sort of thing happened to! Still doesn't look like you'll be waiting long, especially if it's a big success. Especially as Youview is being launched in the first half of next year. HD TV here we come!

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