chipped iPhone 4 screen :-(

mad_dude · 09-10-2010, 20:14

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This Sony Erricson is water proof.

I'm outraged that when I dropped my iPhone into the toilet - it didn't work when I fished it back out.

I mean. . .it should be waterproof. .considering that Sony phone is.

Isn't the iPhone advertised with the slogan "Drop me. I'm invincible. Throw me in water - I'm indestructible".

Oh - you mean it's highend technology that should be treated with respect

My bad.

You mean soundburst people are not allowed to criticise the durability of a product as being unacceptable. Or is just all criticism of apple unacceptable

davethorp · 09-10-2010, 20:22

My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one.......

TelevisionUser · 09-10-2010, 20:24

...and now, back on topic, here's a picture of an unwell iPhone 4 http://www.iphonerepairsltd.co.uk/wp...n-iPhone-4.jpg.

If warranties and insurance won't cover the repair then there are a number of services out there which have sprung up to help people with their unwell iPhones, e.g. http://www.iphonerepairsltd.co.uk/ip...creen-repairs/, http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&cr=co...3793c5dfdc7bfb.

There is an option of very last resort and that's to use some form of resin to repair the damage - http://www.gizoo.co.uk/products/Trav...reenRepair.htm but the results cannot be guaranteed by any means.

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 20:27

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Originally Posted by mad_dude

You mean soundburst people are not allowed to criticise the durability of a product as being unacceptable. Or is just all criticism of apple unacceptable

Blaming Apple for dropping your phone and the product chipping is LUDICROUS.

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 20:28

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Originally Posted by davethorp

My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one.......

Heehee.

You can buy plastic plates and they probably won't smash.

You bought a product and it has smashed. . .but since there are plastic ones available to buy this means it's actually DEBENHAMS' fault for you dropping, and the plate damaging.

Geesh, I've heard it all. The Apple haters know no boundries - they just can't see common sense. I remember in the olden days if you dropped technology and it broke you'd be called an idiot! Now though. . if you drop an iPhone. . .it's Apple who are the idiots for making the product that you've dropped!

davethorp · 09-10-2010, 20:31

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Heehee.

You can buy plastic plates and they probably won't smash.

You bought a product and it has smashed. . .but since there are plastic ones available to buy this means it's actually DEBENHAMS' fault for you dropping, and the plate damaging.

Geesh, I've heard it all. The Apple haters know no boundries - they just can't see common sense.

How could I have been so silly, here I am with an expensive dinner set from a department store which breaks because they made it out of a fragile material when I should have bought a plastic one from tesco instead. Silly silly me

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 20:33

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Originally Posted by davethorp

How could I have been so silly, here I am with an expensive dinner set from a department store which breaks because they made it out of a fragile material when I should have bought a plastic one from tesco instead. Silly silly me

Absolutely - and of course - plates aren't made to EAT OFF. . .they're designed to throw around, and drop on the floor

mad_dude · 09-10-2010, 20:37

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

Blaming Apple for dropping your phone and the product chipping is LUDICROUS.

But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 21:05

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Originally Posted by mad_dude

But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable

You can't criticise a product for breaking when it's dropped.

I'm sorry, but you can't.

anyway. . .all these typical DS posters (I.E NON iPHONE OWNERS) who do nothing but moan -

I like real users to have their say - real users experiences are much more important:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20017417-37.html

And that's what real users say: for the 4th year in a row.

moox · 09-10-2010, 21:24

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Originally Posted by mad_dude

But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable

It seems that there are some people on here who just don't get it.

mad_dude · 09-10-2010, 21:32

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

You can't criticise a product for breaking when it's dropped.

I'm sorry, but you can't.

anyway. . .all these typical DS posters (I.E NON iPHONE OWNERS) who do nothing but moan -

I like real users to have their say - real users experiences are much more important:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20017417-37.html

And that's what real users say: for the 4th year in a row.

I would expect a phone regardless of the make to survive normal wear and tear over its lifetime and that includes a couple of drops my crappy old blackberry survived a pot of ink being dropped on it ffs.
People are allowed to criticise a product if it doesnt match their expectations you may not like that soundburst but we do have the right to voice our opinion in this country.

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 21:43

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Originally Posted by mad_dude

I would expect a phone regardless of the make to survive normal wear and tear over its lifetime and that includes a couple of drops my crappy old blackberry survived a pot of ink being dropped on it ffs.
People are allowed to criticise a product if it doesnt match their expectations you may not like that soundburst but we do have the right to voice our opinion in this country.

You can voice an opinion. Blaming the manufacturer for the damage inflicted on a product due to misuse is absurd. Everyone knows it - though you can argue otherwise all you want.

moox · 09-10-2010, 21:54

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Originally Posted by Soundburst

You can voice an opinion. Blaming the manufacturer for the damage inflicted on a product due to misuse is absurd. Everyone knows it - though you can argue otherwise all you want.

I don't think you get it.

There is nothing absurd about criticising the design of a product or the materials used in said product, when said product may experience stresses and shocks that are a fact of life for said product.

It may not be "designed" to be dropped, but it should have some semblance of build quality to at least have a chance of withstanding it. I personally would not put glass on a phone where it is not necessary (i.e the back). It seems that Apple did, and then used bog standard glass for it.

Other manufacturers use metals or plastics that are much less likely to be damaged or will break when exposed to shock or force.

Soundburst · 09-10-2010, 22:25

Why are you talking about the rear glass?! Rear glass breaking is the LEAST of ones problems when dropping a high end piece of tech.

Internal components and the screen are the main problem - the iPhone, like all high end tech phones, isn't designed to be dropped.

Answer me this: my sister bought a Samsung i8510. . she recently had to replace it for a BlackBerry because she dropped it.

When she dropped it - it wasn't the back plastic cover (which you seem to suggest is the thing Apple should fix and have it plastic instead of glass, as having it plastic would protect the internal components from drops more

LMAO

) . . .it was her screen that broke. The connections internally somehow broke from impact, and half her keypad stopped working - the top half . . .now this was a £450 phone she got as a birthday present from her boyfriend. . .

Did she phone up Samsung and say : "Hello, I dropped my phone, the screen has broken and the keypad doesn't work - replace it for me please this is your fault after all!".

Of course she didn't , because Samsung would have *rightly so* laughed in her face.

So let's not get all carried away because someone dropped their iPhone 4 and the product suffered from said missuse.

Honestly, Moox your anti-Apple nonsense get's worse and worse

gerry d · 10-10-2010, 12:08

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Originally Posted by davethorp

My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one.......

If your going to buy Debenhams own china then you can be guaranteed the quality isn't going to be that great.

alanwarwic · 28-01-2011, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Gormond

According to Apple "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic"

This was always an interesting thread with Ars also supposedly predicting this.
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2...ass_action.php

It seems quite irrelevant but for the fact that it is far less resilient than the 3GS.
Its logical that Apple had to explain that it used Gorilla glass but why the weird '20 times/30 times' comments?

Is there any possible legal argument for creating too much complacency?

pocatello · 29-01-2011, 00:21

Hardness and toughness can be the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to material strength. Hardness tends to come with brittleness. With enough shock any strengthened glass will break. If the 3g case absorbed some of the shock that is another matter all together, and well, lawsuits are a dime a dozen in the us.

davethorp · 29-01-2011, 11:41

A class action suit gets filed in America if someone sneezes. Can't see this getting too far as if it did it would set a precident where manufacturers are required to make their phone designs to be indestructible (with the possible exception for blending)

09-10-2010, 20:14	#101
mad_dude Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,345	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst This Sony Erricson is water proof. I'm outraged that when I dropped my iPhone into the toilet - it didn't work when I fished it back out. I mean. . .it should be waterproof. .considering that Sony phone is. Isn't the iPhone advertised with the slogan "Drop me. I'm invincible. Throw me in water - I'm indestructible". Oh - you mean it's highend technology that should be treated with respect My bad. You mean soundburst people are not allowed to criticise the durability of a product as being unacceptable. Or is just all criticism of apple unacceptable

09-10-2010, 20:22	#102
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one.......

09-10-2010, 20:24	#103
TelevisionUser Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Storbritannia Posts: 28,930	...and now, back on topic, here's a picture of an unwell iPhone 4 http://www.iphonerepairsltd.co.uk/wp...n-iPhone-4.jpg. If warranties and insurance won't cover the repair then there are a number of services out there which have sprung up to help people with their unwell iPhones, e.g. http://www.iphonerepairsltd.co.uk/ip...creen-repairs/, http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&cr=co...3793c5dfdc7bfb. There is an option of very last resort and that's to use some form of resin to repair the damage - http://www.gizoo.co.uk/products/Trav...reenRepair.htm but the results cannot be guaranteed by any means.

09-10-2010, 20:27	#104
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Quote: Originally Posted by mad_dude You mean soundburst people are not allowed to criticise the durability of a product as being unacceptable. Or is just all criticism of apple unacceptable Blaming Apple for dropping your phone and the product chipping is LUDICROUS.

09-10-2010, 20:28	#105
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Quote: Originally Posted by davethorp My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one....... Heehee. You can buy plastic plates and they probably won't smash. You bought a product and it has smashed. . .but since there are plastic ones available to buy this means it's actually DEBENHAMS' fault for you dropping, and the plate damaging. Geesh, I've heard it all. The Apple haters know no boundries - they just can't see common sense. I remember in the olden days if you dropped technology and it broke you'd be called an idiot! Now though. . if you drop an iPhone. . .it's Apple who are the idiots for making the product that you've dropped!

09-10-2010, 20:31	#106
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst Heehee. You can buy plastic plates and they probably won't smash. You bought a product and it has smashed. . .but since there are plastic ones available to buy this means it's actually DEBENHAMS' fault for you dropping, and the plate damaging. Geesh, I've heard it all. The Apple haters know no boundries - they just can't see common sense. How could I have been so silly, here I am with an expensive dinner set from a department store which breaks because they made it out of a fragile material when I should have bought a plastic one from tesco instead. Silly silly me

09-10-2010, 20:33	#107
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Quote: Originally Posted by davethorp How could I have been so silly, here I am with an expensive dinner set from a department store which breaks because they made it out of a fragile material when I should have bought a plastic one from tesco instead. Silly silly me Absolutely - and of course - plates aren't made to EAT OFF. . .they're designed to throw around, and drop on the floor

09-10-2010, 20:37	#108
mad_dude Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,345	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst Blaming Apple for dropping your phone and the product chipping is LUDICROUS. But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable

09-10-2010, 21:05	#109
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Quote: Originally Posted by mad_dude But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable You can't criticise a product for breaking when it's dropped. I'm sorry, but you can't. anyway. . .all these typical DS posters (I.E NON iPHONE OWNERS) who do nothing but moan - I like real users to have their say - real users experiences are much more important: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20017417-37.html And that's what real users say: for the 4th year in a row.

09-10-2010, 21:24	#110
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by mad_dude But people are allowed to criticise a product if it is not durable It seems that there are some people on here who just don't get it.

09-10-2010, 21:32	#111
mad_dude Guest Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 10,345	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst You can't criticise a product for breaking when it's dropped. I'm sorry, but you can't. anyway. . .all these typical DS posters (I.E NON iPHONE OWNERS) who do nothing but moan - I like real users to have their say - real users experiences are much more important: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-20017417-37.html And that's what real users say: for the 4th year in a row. I would expect a phone regardless of the make to survive normal wear and tear over its lifetime and that includes a couple of drops my crappy old blackberry survived a pot of ink being dropped on it ffs. People are allowed to criticise a product if it doesnt match their expectations you may not like that soundburst but we do have the right to voice our opinion in this country.

09-10-2010, 21:43	#112
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Quote: Originally Posted by mad_dude I would expect a phone regardless of the make to survive normal wear and tear over its lifetime and that includes a couple of drops my crappy old blackberry survived a pot of ink being dropped on it ffs. People are allowed to criticise a product if it doesnt match their expectations you may not like that soundburst but we do have the right to voice our opinion in this country. You can voice an opinion. Blaming the manufacturer for the damage inflicted on a product due to misuse is absurd. Everyone knows it - though you can argue otherwise all you want.

09-10-2010, 21:54	#113
moox Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 14,645	Quote: Originally Posted by Soundburst You can voice an opinion. Blaming the manufacturer for the damage inflicted on a product due to misuse is absurd. Everyone knows it - though you can argue otherwise all you want. I don't think you get it. There is nothing absurd about criticising the design of a product or the materials used in said product, when said product may experience stresses and shocks that are a fact of life for said product. It may not be "designed" to be dropped, but it should have some semblance of build quality to at least have a chance of withstanding it. I personally would not put glass on a phone where it is not necessary (i.e the back). It seems that Apple did, and then used bog standard glass for it. Other manufacturers use metals or plastics that are much less likely to be damaged or will break when exposed to shock or force.

09-10-2010, 22:25	#114
Soundburst Inactive Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,850	Why are you talking about the rear glass?! Rear glass breaking is the LEAST of ones problems when dropping a high end piece of tech. Internal components and the screen are the main problem - the iPhone, like all high end tech phones, isn't designed to be dropped. Answer me this: my sister bought a Samsung i8510. . she recently had to replace it for a BlackBerry because she dropped it. When she dropped it - it wasn't the back plastic cover (which you seem to suggest is the thing Apple should fix and have it plastic instead of glass, as having it plastic would protect the internal components from drops more LMAO ) . . .it was her screen that broke. The connections internally somehow broke from impact, and half her keypad stopped working - the top half . . .now this was a £450 phone she got as a birthday present from her boyfriend. . . Did she phone up Samsung and say : "Hello, I dropped my phone, the screen has broken and the keypad doesn't work - replace it for me please this is your fault after all!". Of course she didn't , because Samsung would have rightly so laughed in her face. So let's not get all carried away because someone dropped their iPhone 4 and the product suffered from said missuse. Honestly, Moox your anti-Apple nonsense get's worse and worse

10-10-2010, 12:08	#115
gerry d Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 12,058	Quote: Originally Posted by davethorp My OH broke a plate today. I'm assuming that this is Debenhams' fault for not making their plates durable enough to withstand breaking. I can see how that conversation in the shop will go if I try that one....... If your going to buy Debenhams own china then you can be guaranteed the quality isn't going to be that great.

28-01-2011, 23:32	#116
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Gormond According to Apple "20 times stiffer and 30 times harder than plastic" This was always an interesting thread with Ars also supposedly predicting this. http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2...ass_action.php It seems quite irrelevant but for the fact that it is far less resilient than the 3GS. Its logical that Apple had to explain that it used Gorilla glass but why the weird '20 times/30 times' comments? Is there any possible legal argument for creating too much complacency?

29-01-2011, 00:21	#117
pocatello Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 8,622	Hardness and toughness can be the opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to material strength. Hardness tends to come with brittleness. With enough shock any strengthened glass will break. If the 3g case absorbed some of the shock that is another matter all together, and well, lawsuits are a dime a dozen in the us.

29-01-2011, 11:41	#118
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	A class action suit gets filed in America if someone sneezes. Can't see this getting too far as if it did it would set a precident where manufacturers are required to make their phone designs to be indestructible (with the possible exception for blending)

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