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Old 11-03-2014, 23:26
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You wont get an answer mate - whenever he gets challenged over something he has posted he 'disappears'. He's done it about 21,290 times before.

Unless you want to prove us wrong Occy? What do you know?
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Old 11-03-2014, 23:30
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You wont get an answer mate - whenever he gets challenged over something he has posted he 'disappears'. He's done it about 21,290 times before.

Unless you want to prove us wrong Occy? What do you know?
I live in hope Jon. Although saying that he did answer me a few weeks ago when I asked him about his enthusiasm (or lack of) for Smooth (just after the changes were announced)

As, I say, I live in hope.
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Old 12-03-2014, 04:56
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I'm baffled. I always thought it was Careless Whisper that was generally loved the most, and not A Different Corner, even though both were mid 80's No1 hits. That is why I can't work out the latter track getting such excessive play.

I took Tony Blackburn to task at the weekend on the Pick Of The Pops thread when he was playing 1974 and played Candle In The Wind by Elton John, 40 years old now. I felt like I was listening to Smooth as soon as I heard it begin, and thought he might have avoided it considering his comments about stations such as Smooth. This is the trouble with such crazy over playing and rotation of old hits. You begin to dislike them, and associate them in a negative way such as this.

Carlos becomes Carl Emms eh. I only realised he was one and the same very recently. What kind of an ego does a man have to simply style himself "Carlos" like that! I recall listening to Carl Emms on Chiltern Radio late at night, overnight way back in early 1988. So that is 26 years since The Hot FM now.

Smooth as it now exists is positively retarded in comparison to Chiltern Radio/The Hot FM of the late 80's.
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Old 12-03-2014, 05:30
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I thought you meant New music by George Michael
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Old 12-03-2014, 06:23
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Carlos becomes Carl Emms eh. I only realised he was one and the same very recently. What kind of an ego does a man have to simply style himself "Carlos" like that! I recall listening to Carl Emms on Chiltern Radio late at night, overnight way back in early 1988. So that is 26 years since The Hot FM now.
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What the heck are you banging on about ? It would have been likely a PD's choice who for some reason either thought that Carls name didn't fit the format (Eg not cool enough for hit music) or someone had a similar name so he was given a nickname.

Theres loads about Roberto, The Bassman ect most of these have nicknames due to being on hit music stations and there name suiting the format.
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Old 12-03-2014, 06:42
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What the heck are you banging on about ? It would have been likely a PD's choice who for some reason either thought that Carls name didn't fit the format (Eg not cool enough for hit music) or someone had a similar name so he was given a nickname.

Theres loads about Roberto, The Bassman ect most of these have nicknames due to being on hit music stations and there name suiting the format.
Noticed it with David Jensen who became Kid on early commercial radio and radio one, reverted to David on Gold and Planetrock, became the Kid again on Smooth when GMG went though the phase of trying to be a mature radio 1 after trying to attract it's mature ex listeners, then he went back to David when Global took over to change Smooth to take on Magic London.
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:44
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Not sure about that. Are you telling me that a record company are paying Smooth to play a 28 year old George Michael song?

I took Tony Blackburn to task at the weekend on the Pick Of The Pops thread when he was playing 1974 and played Candle In The Wind by Elton John, 40 years old now. I felt like I was listening to Smooth as soon as I heard it begin, and thought he might have avoided it considering his comments about stations such as Smooth.
Although I praise you for taking Tony & Phil to task over playing a song on POTP but you can't really blame them for playing Candle In The Wind on a retro chart show. It's one of his most famous songs, if not his most famous.

If anything we should be taking them to task over songs that don't get played. As we know Tony & Phil continually to dismiss punk songs when they feature charts form 77-79

To me this is more of an issue than playing Candle in the Wind. It's not like he plays in week in, week out is it?
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Old 12-03-2014, 07:47
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What the heck are you banging on about ? It would have been likely a PD's choice who for some reason either thought that Carls name didn't fit the format (Eg not cool enough for hit music) or someone had a similar name so he was given a nickname.

Theres loads about Roberto, The Bassman ect most of these have nicknames due to being on hit music stations and there name suiting the format.
I remember even in his Carl Emms days he had jingles that said "Cool and crazy Carlos" and callers would often refer to him as Carlos, even though he was listed as Carl Emms.
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Old 12-03-2014, 08:56
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There is no escaping that damned song is there. It even popped up on an Australian station I was listening to early this morning as well.
A Different Corner tests like a dream hence why stations going for a specific audience play it.
I'm baffled. I always thought it was Careless Whisper that was generally loved the most, and not A Different Corner, even though both were mid 80's No1 hits.
And that's why money is spent on very extensive music research. One might *think* a song is popular but research tells the real story.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:39
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A Different Corner tests like a dream hence why stations going for a specific audience play it.

And that's why money is spent on very extensive music research. One might *think* a song is popular but research tells the real story.
Out of sheer interest - I have no "angle" here - just how is testing carried out.
I would be fascinated to find out - nobody's ever asked me, but why should they.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:40
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Carlos becomes Carl Emms eh. I only realised he was one and the same very recently. What kind of an ego does a man have to simply style himself "Carlos" like that! .
Apparently he started using the nickname Carlos when he joined BRMB in 1993; it was Richard Park who billed him as such. The name was a family nickname, dating back to a Spanish holiday when he was a kid. As for ego, I think it unlikely you would make much of a career in radio if you didn't have one of those.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:56
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Smooth is beginning to sound like a hospital radio station now. Anthony Davis is dreadful with his hopelessly contrived links and complete lack of personality. What next? Full-time voice tracking.

I'm not a Global knocker, I think Heart generally sounds very good - but they have lost the plot this time with Smooth. I mean Kate GoAway for goodness sake, when there are so many good presenters out there. I know Sleb magazines are big sellers - and there are a lot of empty-headed women obsessed with them these days - but really, what on earth are they thinking. This is just not going to translate to radio.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:24
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...................Digressing from the current subject and on to technical issues. While driving in my car on Monday evening , around 5pm, I heard the Smooth London traffic news. That was followed by a traffic bulletin from Heart Essex, jingle and all. The Smooth Radio tag disappeared from the RDS and read just 102.2.
I suppose when you cram all those radio stations, in one building, with local feeds thrown in, you should expect the odd technical glitch.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:32
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Out of sheer interest - I have no "angle" here - just how is testing carried out.
This link goes into detail about how its done. It's American but similar practices are carried out here. This should give you an insight into what goes on.
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/research_AMT.htm
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Old 12-03-2014, 13:11
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A Different Corner tests like a dream hence why stations going for a specific audience play it.

And that's why money is spent on very extensive music research. One might *think* a song is popular but research tells the real story.
I freely admit it is my own (irrational) problem with anything by George Michael. I particularly dislike 'A Different Corner' ... it's just bland rubbish IMO.
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Old 12-03-2014, 13:47
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Smooth is beginning to sound like a hospital radio station now.
Some hospital radio is very professional sounding!
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Old 12-03-2014, 15:35
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Some hospital radio is very professional sounding!
Name some so we can gauge your taste and judgement.
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Old 12-03-2014, 15:38
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Some hospital radio is very professional sounding!
Agreed. Some can be very sleek and smooth (no pun intended)

http://www.forestgold.org.uk/
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Old 12-03-2014, 15:40
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This link goes into detail about how its done. It's American but similar practices are carried out here. This should give you an insight into what goes on.
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/research_AMT.htm
Cheers, thanks for the link.
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Old 12-03-2014, 16:05
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A Different Corner tests like a dream hence why stations going for a specific audience play it.

And that's why money is spent on very extensive music research. One might *think* a song is popular but research tells the real story.
However, its NOT extensive, or even accurate....

Getting a load of empty headed Sharon and Tracy's to listen to a very limited "chorus" or "hook lines"......bimbos who are not interested in music, and probably, as they have a limited attention span, will just put anything as their response to get the whole thing over with....

Who'd have thought in 2014 the major influences on what gets played on UK commercial radio are people with no real spark for music.........sad times......
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Old 12-03-2014, 16:53
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However, its NOT extensive, or even accurate....

Getting a load of empty headed Sharon and Tracy's to listen to a very limited "chorus" or "hook lines"......bimbos who are not interested in music, and probably, as they have a limited attention span, will just put anything as their response to get the whole thing over with....

Who'd have thought in 2014 the major influences on what gets played on UK commercial radio are people with no real spark for music.........sad times......
How do you know that Wc... Do you work for a research company or been included in a survey? I find your attitude toward women most offensive.
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Old 12-03-2014, 17:12
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However, its NOT extensive, or even accurate....

Getting a load of empty headed Sharon and Tracy's to listen to a very limited "chorus" or "hook lines"......bimbos who are not interested in music, and probably, as they have a limited attention span, will just put anything as their response to get the whole thing over with....
For that read most normal people, very few people are music anoraks who like obscure B Sides and records. Smooth is a commercial radio station so has to cater for the largest possible audience, leave it to the BBC to play B sides from unreleased albums.
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Old 12-03-2014, 17:16
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However, its NOT extensive, or even accurate....
It's a LOT more accurate than gut feeling.
bimbos who are not interested in music, and probably, as they have a limited attention span
Do you ever wonder why nobody takes your posts seriously....?
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Old 12-03-2014, 17:16
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However, its NOT extensive, or even accurate....

Getting a load of empty headed Sharon and Tracy's to listen to a very limited "chorus" or "hook lines"......bimbos who are not interested in music, and probably, as they have a limited attention span, will just put anything as their response to get the whole thing over with....

Who'd have thought in 2014 the major influences on what gets played on UK commercial radio are people with no real spark for music.........sad times......
Aka the majority of listeners.

I'm not really into music and I've had a good career in radio. I've even been a head of music believe it or not.
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Old 12-03-2014, 17:37
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I'm not really into music and I've had a good career in radio. I've even been a head of music believe it or not.
Oh, in this day and age I CAN believe it....

Its the reason so much "research" has to be done, as the bods in control haven't got a clue!!
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