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Smooth National Radio Thread
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Amara
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by Station ID:
“If it was Autobharn that was played i'm gobsmacked that it's even on the system.

The model on the other hand is not a bad song.”

I hope it was subject to the usual Global "testing" before it sneeked onto the playlist. Have to say I would have loved to hear Kraftwork track on Smooth either the Model or Autobahn would be great.
suffolkblue
13-05-2014
It was Autobahn and it was good to hear even if it was a mistake. The smooth playlist is dire still and how the Djs don't get bored is beyond me. But maybe they are just pleased to have a job.
david1956
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer:
“It wasn't a scheduling error as it was supposed to be a track off the Grease soundtrack instead. It turns out this was a case of user error once it was looked into.”

How can a German song possibly qualify as suitable for a programme that claims to showcase American popular songs. When I think of The American Popular song book I think of songs composed by the likes of Johnny Mercer, Hammerstein, Cole Porter.

It you had real presenters with a knowledge of music instead of a bunch of z listers on autopilot this would never have happened. Proper radio stations have producers who know which songs qualify for specialist programmes and which dont. Smooth doesn't. Enough said.
dpb
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by david1956:
“How can a German song possibly qualify as suitable for a programme that claims to showcase American popular songs. When I think of The American Popular song book I think of songs composed by the likes of Johnny Mercer, Hammerstein, Cole Porter.

It you had real presenters with a knowledge of music instead of a bunch of z listers on autopilot this would never have happened. Proper radio stations have producers who know which songs qualify for specialist programmes and which dont. Smooth doesn't. Enough said.”

What's your opinion of the David Lowe/Radio Devon situation? He could fall into your "real presenters with a knowledge of music" category yet made an error.
Amara
13-05-2014
Great American Songbook is hardly a proper specialist show anyway its basically selections from the daily regurgitation anyway.

Fancy SP having an investigation FFS does it really matter if they played the wrong track. Its a pity the same effort isn't put into getting the daily output a little more varied & interesting instead of the same dross hour in hour out.
david1956
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by dpb:
“What's your opinion of the David Lowe/Radio Devon situation? He could fall into your "real presenters with a knowledge of music" category yet made an error.”

There is a world of difference between this cock up and what happened at Radio Devon. Smooths effort is typical couldn't care lessness.
dpb
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by david1956:
“There is a world of difference between this cock up and what happened at Radio Devon. Smooths effort is typical couldn't care lessness.”

Some would say not checking the lyrics of a song you're playing falls within the "couldn't care lessness" category as well.
SouthCity
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by david1956:
“There is a world of difference between this cock up and what happened at Radio Devon. Smooths effort is typical couldn't carelessness.”

These mistakes happen to all broadcasters though.

It wasn't long ago that two parts of a Bob Harris recorded show (Radio 2) were played over the top of each other for twenty minutes without anyone noticing.

It's one of those things that occasionally happen on all stations, but apparently it's only unacceptable when Global are involved.
dpb
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
“These mistakes happen to all broadcasters though.

It wasn't long ago that two parts of a Bob Harris recorded show were played over the top of each other for twenty minutes without anyone noticing.

It's one of those things that occasionally happen on all stations, but apparently it's only unacceptable when Global are involved.”

Exactly. I was surprised that I never saw david1956 commenting on the Bob Harris recorded show given how much errors enrage him.
david1956
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by dpb:
“Exactly. I was surprised that I never saw david1956 commenting on the Bob Harris recorded show given how much errors enrage him.”

I didn't know about the Bob Harris episode until now. That must have been an issue with the play out system.

Autobahn - is this show voice tracked. It if it is that is the answer. Cheap, tacky cut and paste radio for people who don't like radio.
david1956
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by SmartProgrammer:
“There was no Kraftwerk scheduled last night. Do you mean after 8pm? Smooth Soul Sunday is on at 6pm.”

You need to remove Kraftwerk from the American songbook playlist on your iPod.
dpb
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by david1956:
“I didn't know about the Bob Harris episode until now. That must have been an issue with the play out system.

Autobahn - is this show voice tracked. It if it is that is the answer. Cheap, tacky cut and paste radio for people who don't like radio.”

Both would have been issue with play out systems. Surely you should tar them both with the same brush?
wckartist
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by SouthCity:
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It's one of those things that occasionally happen on all stations, but apparently it's only unacceptable when Global are involved.”

Maybe because it happens so much more frequently......there have been quite a few in the last week!
Amara
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by david1956:
“I didn't know about the Bob Harris episode until now. That must have been an issue with the play out system.

Autobahn - is this show voice tracked. It if it is that is the answer. Cheap, tacky cut and paste radio for people who don't like radio.”

Cheap tacky cut and paste radio sums up the Snooze Voicetracked weekend output nicely.
Cut6
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by wckartist:
“Maybe because it happens so much more frequently......there have been quite a few in the last week!”

Really? Could you give some examples?
Amara
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by Cut6:
“Really? Could you give some examples?”

Here we go again does it really matter this is a radio forum not a job interview.
Cut6
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by Amara:
“Here we go again does it really matter this is a radio forum not a job interview.”

Of course it matters. If you post something as fact and someone challenges that fact you should have the evidence to back it up.

I'm sure the good people at Global would love to know about any mistakes that have been made so they can correct them.

I'm also sure the Global bashers would like to have another excuse to bash!

So, wckartist what else have you heard go wrong on Smooth in the last week?
wckartist
13-05-2014
Originally Posted by Cut6:
“Really? Could you give some examples?”

Just look through some of the posts in the last 7 days...

Uptothevocal posted, re Myleene Klass

The one on where the north wales output went to the wrong area are 2 for starters!!

Ok some were on Heart, but they are still errors!
Sibeber
14-05-2014
Originally Posted by suffolkblue:
“It was Autobahn and it was good to hear even if it was a mistake. The smooth playlist is dire still and how the Djs don't get bored is beyond me. But maybe they are just pleased to have a job.”

I thought you were one of the people who said they were finished with listening to Smooth Radio ..forgive me if I'm wrong.
AL89
14-05-2014
this thread is always more entertaining then Smooth< long may it continue> (oh dear that means Smooth will continue)
Shrewn
14-05-2014
I like Great American Songbook type shows that they do on R2 with the likes of Leo Green and Don Black, previously David Jacobs. I take it the Smooth show isn't like that?
OrmeMac
14-05-2014
Originally Posted by Shrewn:
“I like Great American Songbook type shows that they do on R2 with the likes of Leo Green and Don Black, previously David Jacobs. I take it the Smooth show isn't like that?”

Despite what some people claim (they "don't listen to Smooth any more" but still manage to spout the same rubbish) there are a number of tracks played on this programme that aren't normally featured on other programmes.

They also claim it is voice-tracked, which it is, but nobody tries to hide this fact. It's clearly listed as one of three voice-tracked programmes on their website. I don't think 12 hours of voice-tracked programmes a week is excessive. In fact, compared to some other stations, it's remarkable low.

Quote:
“5. The average number of hours of automated programming within weekday daytimes and within daytimes on Saturdays and Sundays.


Saturday and Sunday 1000-1400 and Sunday 1800-0000.”

Shrewn
14-05-2014
Originally Posted by OrmeMac:
“Despite what some people claim (they "don't listen to Smooth any more" but still manage to spout the same rubbish) there are a number of tracks played on this programme that aren't normally featured on other programmes.

They also claim it is voice-tracked, which it is, but nobody tries to hide this fact. It's clearly listed as one of three voice-tracked programmes on their website. I don't think 12 hours of voice-tracked programmes a week is excessive. In fact, compared to some other stations, it's remarkable low.”

Cheers, i'll give it a go. I'm not bothered whether its live or not
suffolkblue
14-05-2014
Originally Posted by Sibeber:
“I thought you were one of the people who said they were finished with listening to Smooth Radio ..forgive me if I'm wrong.”

HI Sibeber I still listen from time to time but not like I used to before global took over.
david1956
14-05-2014
Originally Posted by Shrewn:
“I like Great American Songbook type shows that they do on R2 with the likes of Leo Green and Don Black, previously David Jacobs. I take it the Smooth show isn't like that?”

Smooth Radio is nothing like Radio 2. If BBC output was as dire as Smooth or Gold there would be hell to pay. The Daily Mail would be wanting the DG head on a plate.
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