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Old 28-09-2010, 21:26
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I can't lock my driver's door from the outside - the key gets stuck, and it takes forever to work it back out. So when leaving the car now I just lock it from the inside (ie leaning across the passenger side to push the button down). The car's something of a relic and I intend to get rid of it next year, so I can't really be bothered to sort this out.

It's otherwise fairly mechanically sound however, and always passes the MOT, but this problem has developed since the last test. I've found this on an MOT testing site, and it seems pretty self-explanatory:

"Both front doors must be openable from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely."

That seems to say that that they only test the operation of the doors, which there isn't a problem with. Can anyone confirm for definite though that the locking mechanisms aren't tested, as I'd hate to fail for such a stupid little thing.
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Old 28-09-2010, 21:27
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I don't think locks affect the MOT but it could affect your insurance cover!
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Old 28-09-2010, 21:29
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Oh Well as I say there's no problem actually locking it, just not from outside.
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Old 28-09-2010, 21:37
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Oh Well as I say there's no problem actually locking it, just not from outside.
I have the opposite problem!
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Old 28-09-2010, 22:09
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I don't think locks affect the MOT but it could affect your insurance cover!
Really? How so?

I think insurance usually says that cars should be in roadworthy condition and a valid MOT provides good evidence for this.

(And contrary to what a lot of people think, not having a current MOT does not usually invalidate your insurance).
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Old 28-09-2010, 22:19
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As long as the tester can get in and out of the car and the door catches work it will be fine.
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Old 28-09-2010, 22:24
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Really? How so?

I think insurance usually says that cars should be in roadworthy condition and a valid MOT provides good evidence for this.

(And contrary to what a lot of people think, not having a current MOT does not usually invalidate your insurance).
As best I know an mot is not a legal document and is invalid as such as soon as you leave the test centre but is valid for 48 hours in N.I and you are correct it will not invalidate your insurance but faulty locks will, door locks are not tested at an mot even in N.I. An mot certificate will only state that the car was roadworthy at the time of testing, not afterwards.
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Old 28-09-2010, 22:39
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As best I know an mot is not a legal document and is invalid as such as soon as you leave the test centre but is valid for 48 hours in N.I and you are correct it will not invalidate your insurance but faulty locks will, door locks are not tested at an mot even in N.I. An mot certificate will only state that the car was roadworthy at the time of testing, not afterwards.
An MOT is for sure a legal document (try getting a road tax disc without one).

My insurance policy just says that the car has to be in a roadworthy condition. It's debatable if a car with faulty locks is roadworthy, but I would say it is.
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Old 28-09-2010, 22:44
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An MOT is for sure a legal document (try getting a road tax disc without one).

My insurance policy just says that the car has to be in a roadworthy condition. It's debatable if a car with faulty locks is roadworthy, but I would say it is.
An mot certificate is only valid until you leave the test centre and thats it but like you stated it will allow you to tax the car but the car could be pulled for a fault 5 minutes after it has left the test centre and the testers have no responsibililty for the safety of the car once it has left the test centre so it is in effect a useless document that means nothing other than a ticket to a tax disc.
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Old 28-09-2010, 23:47
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Really? How so?
I presume the comment was in relation to claims for theft (though it sounds like the OP can in fact leave the car secured).

Anyway, locking isn't relevant to the MOT - just latching i.e. being able to open and close the door.
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Old 29-09-2010, 00:04
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Depends who does the MOT for you.

I have a dodgy handbrake but mine still passed it's MOT.
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Old 29-09-2010, 00:55
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I've found this on an MOT testing site, and it seems pretty self-explanatory:

"Both front doors must be openable from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely."
Hi OP - reading the above quote, in my opinion, doesnt mean the locks need to work - the opening and closing of the doors relates to the handle mechanism for releasing the door catch and the bit about the latch means the doors stay securely closed (not locked).

im sure there someone on here who either a current or ex MOT tester but i cant remember who? (or am i getting mixed up with someone else??)
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Old 29-09-2010, 01:03
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probably an advisory
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Old 29-09-2010, 01:16
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Hi OP - reading the above quote, in my opinion, doesnt mean the locks need to work - the opening and closing of the doors relates to the handle mechanism for releasing the door catch and the bit about the latch means the doors stay securely closed (not locked).

im sure there someone on here who either a current or ex MOT tester but i cant remember who? (or am i getting mixed up with someone else??)
Your interpretation is partially correct Geordiesi.

Providing the tester can get in and out of all the doors and none of them fly open when he's moving the car from the ramp to the brake tester, he doesn't care if they can be locked or not.

However, if he gets to the car and discovers he can't unlock the driver's door to take it to the ramp, that could be a different story; I've not met many MOT testers that would walk round the other side of the car, then lean over both seats, just to give the owner the benefit of a pass certificate.

So, the answer to the OP's question is, it's not a problem, providing you leave the driver's door unlocked, when you drop it off for the test.

The Golden rule is, if the tester has to put himself out, it's going to fail.
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Old 29-09-2010, 02:00
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probably an advisory
that only applies to an English mot which in the real world are not worth the paper they are written on.
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Old 29-09-2010, 03:52
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Locks are covered on the MOT test, but generally speaking it is normally a concern if the doors do not open/unlock. However, it will be up to the examiner to decide whether the fact that the doors do not lock represent a risk to the roadworthiness of the car. He or she may decide, as the door does not lock, there maybe a risk that it will lock and will be unable to be re-opened.
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Old 29-09-2010, 06:29
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Really? How so?

I think insurance usually says that cars should be in roadworthy condition and a valid MOT provides good evidence for this.

(And contrary to what a lot of people think, not having a current MOT does not usually invalidate your insurance).
Because if you have your car stolen or broken into and the insurance company finds out the locks on the car were dodgy then they might not want to pay out!
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Old 29-09-2010, 09:48
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Your interpretation is partially correct Geordiesi.

Providing the tester can get in and out of all the doors and none of them fly open when he's moving the car from the ramp to the brake tester, he doesn't care if they can be locked or not.

However, if he gets to the car and discovers he can't unlock the driver's door to take it to the ramp, that could be a different story; I've not met many MOT testers that would walk round the other side of the car, then lean over both seats, just to give the owner the benefit of a pass certificate.

So, the answer to the OP's question is, it's not a problem, providing you leave the driver's door unlocked, when you drop it off for the test.

The Golden rule is, if the tester has to put himself out, it's going to fail.

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OP are you saying its unlocked permanantly or does it lock from the outside ok (but not unlock)??
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Old 29-09-2010, 10:08
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Your interpretation is partially correct Geordiesi.

Providing the tester can get in and out of all the doors and none of them fly open when he's moving the car from the ramp to the brake tester, he doesn't care if they can be locked or not.

However, if he gets to the car and discovers he can't unlock the driver's door to take it to the ramp, that could be a different story; I've not met many MOT testers that would walk round the other side of the car, then lean over both seats, just to give the owner the benefit of a pass certificate.

So, the answer to the OP's question is, it's not a problem, providing you leave the driver's door unlocked, when you drop it off for the test.

The Golden rule is, if the tester has to put himself out, it's going to fail.
It has nothing to do with the convenience of the MOT examiner, it is to do with the roadworthiness of the car.
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Old 29-09-2010, 10:28
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Depends who does the MOT for you.

I have a dodgy handbrake but mine still passed it's MOT.
It can't be that dodgy else it would have failed. They told me mine was very near the pass\fail border.
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Old 29-09-2010, 10:45
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No it doesn't matter about the locks. I had an old Clio i couldn't lock either side (someone tried to break into it and damaged them) and it passed it's MOT fine, no advisories etc.
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Old 29-09-2010, 10:45
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Regarding the original question, read this.....scroll down to doors....

http://www.ukmot.com/6-5.asp#Text_top
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Old 29-09-2010, 10:54
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From my understanding it's latching not locking that the MOT checks:

As long as the door latches - i.e. no-one can fall out when driving along

And unlatches - i.e. no one can be trapped inside especially in an emergency
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Old 29-09-2010, 11:15
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Regarding the original question, read this.....scroll down to doors....

http://www.ukmot.com/6-5.asp#Text_top
This inspection does not apply if no driver's or front passenger's doors were fitted as part of the original design of the vehicle.A lack of door handles because of original design characteristics or specialist modification is not a reason for rejection providing the door can be latched securely in the closed position.
This could possibly be open to interpretation, depending on the opinion of the examiner.
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Old 29-09-2010, 18:09
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Thanks for all the contributions everyone, it has put me more at ease. I take on board Flyboy's point about examiner's interpretation, but the feeling I get from the garage that has MOT'd the car for the past 4 years is that I should hopefully be OK with it. If not well, that's my fault for being a lazy hound.
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