But seeing the Doctor wasn't the thing that would remind her...otherwise the Doctor wouldn't have faced her at all.....so that doesn't mean we that we would never see Donna again.....just that she can't remember.....

As for the whole emiting a pulse, if you want to argue it as a cop-out fair enough, I personally found it sweet that the Doctor would place something just in case.....she came close to dying, and maybe she can still die, I think it would have been more of a cop out if she rememberd everything and didn't die either....then it woudl be against what the Doctor said....but him not mentioning a safety hatch in her brain doesn't mean that he never put one in there....

Her fate was worse than death though.....death would have been the easy option. And Turn Left proves that she isn't as stupid as people think she is....its just a sharade.....she is still that clever temp that found the Doctor and did all those things before she became the Doctor-Donna....that was only for a couple hours of her life.....




What I meant about Amy is that she still died was alive for the finale itself....not dead for good...and if we are meant to invest in characters, that if they leave because they have decided to go and help there family and there return then makes characters leaving for good less believable...well then so does killing off a character....and then bringing them back. Don't get me wrong, I was glad that Amy was back, although I knew she would as I read the spoilers (wish I hadnt, as I would have cried).....but when the show can show that even death isn't finale for a companion....then surely being stuck on a parallel world, going to look after your family, having a mindwipe shouldn't be considerd fianle moments ever, and if a writer then brings them back then they are useless.....as for River, we knew that the Doctor would see her again, but that doesn't mean we would see her adventures....because at that time she was a one-off character, made so the Doctor had an excuse to get inside the library....and Moff liked it, so then later when planning for series 5, decided to explore it further.....in the same way that RTD decided to use Wilf (and Donna came with the package, sending her off somewhere else would have been an obvious, oh he just wants her out of the way! excuse)


I can understand why some have issues with the likes of Rose or Donna returning (Martha's was never final, no matter what someone may say)...because their "ending" was loved...and for them a return can diminish that emotion (didn't for me, because they never returned full time, their endings still remianed final, one is still in the parallel world, and the other still can't remember)......but if you (not you personally) have never invested in the character anyway from the start, didn't care for there ending....talking about not being able to invest in their final moments because they will return makes no sense.....especailly as for all we knew, (well apart from the spoilers) the likes of Amy and Rory could have been goners when they died if Moff wanted....and they returned, but no issue is made out of that.....why... because they like those characters anyway.....

unfortunalty there have been occasions where i have got a bit personal...like today...out of fustration though...

And I look forward to your "I told you so"....its nice to be wrong when it comes to the show.....like when Muttley mentioned the future Doctor in Flesh and Stone, and I was convinced that (thanks to the Doctor for some reason being sleevless, no idea why he was when he was wearing his jacket) that it was a continuty error with the Jacket Its nice to not be able to predict correctly, and have the writer's suprise you.....



Nice to read some consistancy

I do wonder whether because it is a family show, and therefore they are more weary of killing someone who the children come to love so much (i mean even in Classic Who it didn't happen that often, and it survived 26 years)...with the Doctor "killing" him is slightly different as it gives you a sense of hope that he will still survive...what with a new actor taking over....

so we may not see death of a companion....maybe one offs like Astrid and Adeliade....


I agree...and in a sense, all the comapnions of the RTD era became a sort of family, especailly Jack and Martha (both who had low key "endings"), that the Doctor was likely to see again....and River is becoming that for the Moff era, as the Brig was for the classic series....and maybe, depending on what awaits for Rory and Amy, they too may become regular fixtures even if they leave the Tardis.....

You are right about the fate of Donna, I think it was more a case of me not liking the annoying Donna she started out as. I didn't like her when I first saw her and again in her Ep1 of Series 4. She started to mellow and become less annoying which is when I began to like her. It's obviously a personal thing, I would have preferred to just not see Donna at all.

Also with Rory I did actually think that was it. Stayed away from spoilers so that return was shocking. As was Rose's actually. I think Rose's was more spoilt by the episode not the actual fact that she returned.

I loved her from the Runaway Bride...she was so different form Rose...just the right antidote for me to get over my sadness that Billie had left, and I loved her character progression in that very same episode, the things she learned, the little things she noticed, how she "got" the Doctor, and gave him something to smile about. Due to her reasons for noy wanting to travel with him, I was abit wary of how she will be brought back in series 4....but it worked...and I was loving her more and more....so yeah it does go down to personal choice...