I watched The End Of Time again just recently and there's a small bit of it that I wonder about every time I see this episode and I always mean to ask for other people's opinion. It's hardly the most major of issues, as I said in the thread title it's just a bit of a curiosity.

Spoilers ahead if you haven't seen The End Of Time! (I know its not exactly a new episode, but some people might not have)

At the end, when The Doctor is revisiting his friends before he goes off to regenerate, he saves Luke (I think that's his name) from being hit by a car. Luke obviously recognises The Doctor, and then says "You're..." and doesn't finish his sentence.

I don't watch the Sarah Jane Adventures, I've seen one or two episodes with my young nephew who likes it so I don't know much about Luke but I gather he has some sort of special ability to perceive extraordinary things from his appearance in The Stolen Earth as he remarks that what turns out to be the Daleks moving the planet "felt like some sort of trans-dimensional spatial transference" or something like that. So what I'm curious about is simply this: Was Luke simply very stunned at seeing The Doctor (as it was the first time they'd actually met in person), or did he see him and recognise that he was dying and about to regenerate?

As I say, it's not a major point and I doubt there's any way to be totally sure, but I'm interested in opinions. I think he sees that the Doctor is regenerating personally.

That's the strang thing. Luke & the Doctor have met before in SJA, but the evidence in TEoT would suggest that this meeting takes place before.

It could very well be that he recognised that the Doctor was dying - which could be where the shock Luke shows comes from - not that he doesn't recognise him, but that he knows the Doctor is not long for the Earth...

I don't if there is enough evidence to suggest that this happens before the Wedding of SJS to tell you the truth....it was something I assumed too at first...but someone else made a very good suggestion...the fact that Luke was crossing the road, and all of a sudden the Doctor is there saving his life...and it was just more out of shock to see the Doctor all of a sudden there...."its you!"...if it was something like "oh wait a minute, are you the Doctor?" then it could be that is the first time he sees him in the flesh....


Also that scene was shot before the Wedding episode......so it could well be that they just made a continuity error there...and Luke indeed sees the Doctor for the first time on that road....and again we also don't know where abouts Wedding is set....after the EOT events or before....so there is no definite answer...

Well, Luke had seen The Doctor before hadn't he? He knew what he looked like at least because he took part in the subwave network in The Stolen Earth, and The Doctor spoke to him directly on the video screen in Journey's End.

Incidentally I didn't know The Doctor had appeared in an episode of the Sarah Jane Adventures. Where can I find that?




Unfortunately not, its a Metallica song

Series 3, A two parter called "The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith"

Ah, is The Doctor actually in it, or is it just a cameo at the end or something?

Unfortunately not, its a Metallica song [/quote]


yeah he had seen him...so yeah it could just be shock....

they are repeating a lot of the episodes on CBBC right now....so keep a look out for it.....its bound to turn up there again sometimes soon before the new series.......I'd also recommend the whole series', and don't forget Matt will be making an appearnce in the new series....

Its more than a cameo...but he doesn't overtake the show either which there was always be a danger of....its a great appeance and DT's last ever stint as the Doctor....

It's a fully fledged appearance, particularly in Part 2

EDIT: Beaten to it

technically a time distortion took place and we ended up posting the same time.....but DS preferred my post!!!!

Go to a certain video sharing website and type in Wedding, Sarah and Jane into the search function.

^^^This

Damn, I thought it was a Ziggy Stardust reference.

Well, I guess Metallica would have been referencing Bowie?

nyingy

Managed to track down The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith, quite a nice little episode. I thought the bit at the end with Sarah and the Doctor was pretty moving for a kids show.