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Judges Scores Thread 2010
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BuddyBontheNet
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“...
The only way round that is to have all the scores at the end so the Judges can shuffle them if a better performance comes along.
That would mean comments only after the dances?”

I posted earlier saying exactly the same thing! Each judge could still comment after the performance, but not bother marking them out of 10, just place each couple on the leader board.
Bonnie96
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I posted earlier saying exactly the same thing! Each judge could still comment after the performance, but not bother marking them out of 10, just place each couple on the leader board.”

You're Piscean too - right?
BuddyBontheNet
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“You're Piscean too - right? ”

Sorry, a bossy Leo, but I am also a Scot!
tabithakitten
18-10-2010
This week is very erm interesting (bizarre).

Bruno thinks Kara, Felicity and Michelle were of the same standard? I can't be alone in thinking that there should have been a mark between each of them?

And Len thinks that Jimi and Peter were as good as Matt and Felicity? I'll have a pint of what he's already imbibed thank.
Monaogg
19-10-2010
IIRC Craig once said he marks based on everyone starting on 10 then losing a mark for every mistake they make.

Len seems to do the same but based on what he doesn't like (so less chance of lower marks)

Alesha seems to mark up to take the sting out of harsh comments from the other judges. And as for Bruno - who knows?
DavidJames
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by arddunol:
“I am sure he is and he made a point tonight on ITT of saying they had a range of scores from 1 to 10 so they should be used ,.”

Well, let's face it, Craig's the only one who actually cares about the scoring. The other judges are just there for the cash.
BuddyBontheNet
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“IIRC Craig once said he marks based on everyone starting on 10 then losing a mark for every mistake they make.

Len seems to do the same but based on what he doesn't like (so less chance of lower marks)

Alesha seems to mark up to take the sting out of harsh comments from the other judges. And as for Bruno - who knows?”

LOL! I heard Craig say he marked each couple up or down on a week by week basis, so if we put the two things together we get a decent scoring method! Unfortunately we need all the judges to use the same method!
RichmondBlue
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I think this is one of the best threads on this board. It really does show how inconsistent all the judges are.

Craig uses a wider range of paddles because he scores each couple based on how well they did compared with the previous week.

I used to think the other judges (including Arlene) scored by comparing the couples on the the night, but I haven't got a clue what they are doing this year!”

I've always argued against that approach. Some people say it doesn't matter, that the couples position "on the night" is the only important thing. I would much prefer the judges to mark in a consistant manner. In other words, a mark of "9" should be comparable to other 9's, throughout the series..maybe even comparable to those in previous series.
Craig is the only one who comes close to judging in this manner. You can see he is judging the progress of each contestant, and taking into account the degree of difficulty involved with the routine.
Thankfully, Alesha has reigned back a little, she hasn't shown a "10" yet !
Bonnie96
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Sorry, a bossy Leo, but I am also a Scot! ”

Close enough
I knew there had to be something - it's the common sense attitude
Fudd
23-10-2010
Show 5 (broadcast date: Saturday 23rd October 2010)

Craig
Matt 9
Kara 8
Pamela 8
Scott 8
Felicity 7
Tina 7
Jimi 6
Michelle 6
Patsy 6
Gavin 5
Ann 3
Peter 2

Len
Matt 9
Scott 9
Kara 8
Pamela 8
Patsy 8
Ann 7
Felicity 7
Jimi 7
Michelle 7
Tina 7
Gavin 6
Peter 5

Alesha
Matt 9
Pamela 9
Scott 9
Kara 8
Tina 8
Felicity 7
Jimi 7
Michelle 7
Patsy 7
Ann 6
Gavin 6
Peter 6

Bruno
Pamela 9
Scott 9
Kara 8
Matt 8
Felicity 8
Jimi 7
Michelle 7
Patsy 7
Tina 7
Gavin 6
Ann 5
Peter 4

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Matt
8: Kara, Pamela, Scott
7: Felicity, Tina
6: Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
5: Gavin
4:
3: Ann
2: Peter
1:

Len
10:
9: Matt, Scott
8: Kara, Pamela, Patsy
7: Ann, Felicity, Jimi, Michelle, Tina
6: Gavin
5: Peter
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10:
9: Matt, Pamela, Scott
8: Kara, Tina
7: Felicity, Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
6: Ann, Gavin, Peter
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10:
9: Pamela, Scott
8: Kara, Matt, Felicity
7: Jimi, Michelle, Patsy, Tina
6: Gavin
5: Ann
4: Peter
3:
2:
1:

scorpiogran
24-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Well, let's face it, Craig's the only one who actually cares about the scoring. The other judges are just there for the cash.”

Yes - Len has taken the thirty pieces of silver now.
Fudd
30-10-2010
Show 6 (broadcast date: Saturday 30th October 2010)

Craig
Kara 9
Scott 9
Matt 8
Jimi 7
Michelle 7
Patsy 7
Felicity 6
Pamela 6
Tina 6
Gavin 5
Ann 2

Len
Scott 10
Kara 9
Matt 8
Patsy 8
Tina 8
Felicity 7
Gavin 7
Jimi 7
Pamela 7
Michelle 6
Ann 5

Alesha
Kara 10
Scott 10
Matt 9
Jimi 8
Michelle 8
Patsy 8
Gavin 7
Pamela 7
Tina 7
Felicity 6
Ann 5

Bruno
Scott 10
Kara 9
Matt 9
Jimi 8
Michelle 8
Patsy 8
Felicity 7
Gavin 7
Pamela 7
Tina 7
Ann 4

Overall Supplemnetal Chart

Craig
10:
9: Kara, Scott
8: Matt
7: Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
6: Felicity, Pamela, Tina
5: Gavin
4:
3:
2: Ann
1:

Len
10: Scott
9: Kara
8: Matt, Patsy, Tina
7: Gavin, Jimi, Felicity, Pamela
6: Michelle
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara, Scott
9: Matt
8: Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
7: Gavin, Pamela, Tina
6: Felicity
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Scott
9: Kara, Matt
8: Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
7: Gavin, Felicity, Pamela, Tina
6:
5:
4: Ann
3:
2:
1:

Fudd
06-11-2010
Show 7 (broadcast date: Saturday 6th November 2010)

Craig
Kara 9
Matt 8
Pamela 8
Jimi 7
Felicity 6
Michelle 6
Patsy 6
Gavin 5
Scott 4
Ann 2

Len
Kara 9
Matt 9
Pamela 9
Scott 9
Felicity 8
Gavin 8
Jimi 8
Michelle 8
Patsy 8
Ann 6

Alesha
Kara 9
Matt 9
Gavin 8
Jimi 8
Michelle 8
Pamela 8
Felicity 7
Patsy 7
Scott 7
Ann 5

Bruno
Jimi 9
Kara 9
Matt 9
Felicity 8
Gavin 8
Michelle 8
Pamela 8
Patsy 8
Scott 8
Ann 4

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Kara
8: Matt, Pamela
7: Jimi
6: Felicity, Michelle, Patsy
5: Gavin
4: Scott
3:
2: Ann
1:

Len
10:
9: Kara, Matt, Pamela, Scott
8: Felicity, Gavin, Jimi, Michelle, Patsy
7:
6: Ann
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10:
9: Kara, Matt
8: Gavin, Jimi, Michelle, Pamela
7: Felicity, Patsy, Scott
6:
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10:
9: Jimi, Kara, Matt
8: Felicity, Gavin, Michelle, Pamela, Patsy, Scott
7:
6:
5:
4: Ann
3:
2:
1:

Bonnie96
06-11-2010
I don't know WHAT to make of them tonight
Len had lost 8 of his paddles - but found 1 (or maybe he just used his 9 upside down )

Thanks again for this, Fudd

ETA - Just realised Bruno was the same so maybe the paddles are in the Transatlantic Lost Luggage!
Fudd
06-11-2010
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“I don't know WHAT to make of them tonight
Len had lost 8 of his paddles - but found 1 (or maybe he just used his 9 upside down )

Thanks again for this, Fudd

ETA - Just realised Bruno was the same so maybe the paddles are in the Transatlantic Lost Luggage!”

I swear the scoring is saner now in the American version - yet in previous series I've always thought that Strictly Come Dancing was stricter than Dancing with the Stars.
Fudd
13-11-2010
Show 8 (broadcast date: Saturday 13th Nivember 2010)

Craig
Kara 9
Scott 9
Matt 8
Pamela 8
Gavin 7
Patsy 7
Felicity 5
Michelle 4
Ann 3

Len
Scott 10
Kara 9
Matt 9
Patsy 9
Gavin 8
Pamela 8
Felicity 7
Michelle 7
Ann 6

Alesha
Kara 10
Scott 10
Gavin 9
Matt 9
Pamela 8
Patsy 8
Felicity 7
Michelle 7
Ann 6

Bruno
Kara 10
Scott 10
Gavin 9
Matt 9
Pamela 8
Patsy 8
Felicity 7
Michelle 6
Ann 5

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Kara, Scott
8: Matt, Pamela
7: Gavin, Patsy
6:
5: Felicity
4: Michelle
3: Ann
2:
1:

Len
10: Scott
9: Kara, Matt, Patsy
8: Gavin, Pamela
7: Felicity, Michelle
6: Ann
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara, Scott
9: Gavin, Matt
8: Pamela, Patsy
7: Felicity, Michelle
6: Ann
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Kara, Scott
9: Gavin, Matt
8: Pamela, Patsy
7: Felicity
6: Michelle
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

MavisConsuela
13-11-2010
Len may have overscored but if you look at his ranking i'd agree that Patsy should be where she is compared to being below Gavin and on par with Pamela. I'm totally biased towards Patsy though, i'm going to get a reputation haha.
robbies_gal
13-11-2010
i dont know wot the judges are on a 9 for gavin it was nowhere near that good
posiepebbles
13-11-2010
Originally Posted by MavisConsuela:
“Len may have overscored but if you look at his ranking i'd agree that Patsy should be where she is compared to being below Gavin and on par with Pamela. I'm totally biased towards Patsy though, i'm going to get a reputation haha.”

Well, at least you know you're biassed, petal - is this self-awareness something you could teach to the judges? I'll pick up the bit where I help Len with basic numeracy...
MavisConsuela
13-11-2010
I loved Alesha once upon a time, I didn't see the problem with her appointment as judge. However in terms of scores, Arlene was much stricter, and as such I don't believe getting 10s this year and last means as much as it did previously. Overscoring has always been an occasional issue, I remember Matt D getting a 40 for his Waltz, but Alesha didn't get 40 once, not for her Cha Cha, Waltz and Vienese Waltz which I still watch to this day.
Fudd
20-11-2010
Show 9 (broadcast date: Saturday 20th November 2010)

Craig
Kara 9
Matt 9
Pamela 8
Felicity 7
Patsy 6
Scott 6
Gavin 4
Ann 1

Len
Matt 9
Pamela 9
Scott 8
Felicity 7
Gavin 7
Patsy 7
Kara 6
Ann 5

Alesha
Kara 10
Matt 10
Pamela 10
Scott 9
Felicity 8
Gavin 8
Patsy 8
Ann 4

Bruno
Kara 10
Matt 10
Pamela 10
Scott 9
Felicity 8
Gavin 8
Patsy 7
Ann 3

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Kara, Matt
8: Pamela
7: Felicity
6: Patsy, Scott
5:
4: Gavin
3:
2:
1: Ann

Len
10:
9: Matt, Pamela
8: Scott
7: Felicity, Gavin, Patsy
6: Kara
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara, Matt, Pamela
9: Scott
8: Felicity, Gavin, Patsy
7:
6:
5:
4: Ann
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Kara, Matt, Pamela
9: Scott
8: Felicity, Gavin
7: Patsy
6:
5:
4:
3: Ann
2:
1:

Fudd
27-11-2010
Show 10 (broadcast date: Saturday 27th November 2010)

Craig
Pamela 9
Matt 8
Kara 7
Patsy 7
Scott 6
Gavin 3
Ann 1

Len
Pamela 9
Kara 9
Matt 8
Patsy 8
Scott 7
Gavin 6
Ann 5

Alesha
Pamela 10
Kara 9
Scott 9
Matt 8
Patsy 8
Gavin 7
Ann 5

Bruno
Pamela 10
Kara 9
Matt 9
Scott 9
Patsy 7
Gavin 6
Ann 3

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Pamela
8: Matt
7: Kara, Patsy
6: Scott
5:
4:
3: Gavin
2:
1: Ann

Len
10:
9: Kara, Pamela
8: Matt, Patsy
7: Scott
6: Gavin
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Pamela
9: Kara, Scott
8: Matt, Patsy
7: Gavin
6:
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Pamela
9: Kara, Matt, Scott
8:
7: Patsy
6: Gavin
5:
4:
3: Ann
2:
1:

Fudd
04-12-2010
Show 11 (broadcast date: Saturday 4th December 2010)

Craig
Pamela 10
Kara 9
Matt 8
Scott 8
Gavin 7
Ann 2

Len
Pamela 10
Gavin 9
Kara 9
Matt 9
Scott 9
Ann 5

Alesha
Kara 10
Pamela 10
Gavin 9
Matt 9
Scott 9
Ann 4

Bruno
Kara 10
Pamela 10
Matt 9
Scott 9
Gavin 8
Ann 3

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10: Pamela
9: Kara
8: Matt, Scott
7: Gavin
6:
5:
4:
3:
2: Ann
1:

Len
10: Pamela
9: Gavin, Kara, Matt, Scott
8:
7:
6:
5: Ann
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara, Pamela
9: Gavin, Matt, Scott
8:
7:
6:
5:
4: Ann
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Kara, Pamela
9: Matt, Scott
8: Gavin
7:
6:
5:
4:
3: Ann
2:
1:

Fudd
11-12-2010
Show 12 (broadcast date: Friday 10th December 2010)

Craig
Kara 9
Pamela 8
Scott 8
Matt 7
Gavin 6

Len
Kara 10
Pamela 9
Scott 8
Gavin 7
Matt 7

Alesha
Kara 10
Pamela 9
Scott 8
Gavin 7
Matt 7

Bruno
Kara 10
Pamela 9
Scott 9
Gavin 7
Matt 7

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10:
9: Kara
8: Pamela, Scott
7: Matt
6: Gavin
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Len
10: Kara
9: Pamela
8: Scott
7: Gavin, Matt
6:
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara
9: Pamela
8: Scott
7: Gavin, Matt
6:
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Kara
9: Pamela, Scott
8:
7: Gavin, Matt
6:
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Swingathon
5: Kara
4: Matt
3: Pamela
2: Scott
1: Gavin

Fudd
11-12-2010
Show 13 (broadcast date: Saturday 11th December 2010)

Craig
Pamela 10
Kara 9
Matt 9
Scott 8
Gavin 6

Len
Kara 10
Matt 10
Pamela 10
Gavin 9
Scott 9

Alesha
Kara 10
Matt 10
Pamela 10
Scott 9
Gavin 8

Bruno
Kara 10
Pamela 10
Matt 9
Scott 9
Gavin 8

Overall Supplemental Chart

Craig
10: Pamela
9: Kara, Matt
8: Scott
7:
6: Gavin
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Len
10: Kara, Matt, Pamela
9: Gavin, Scott
8:
7:
6:
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Alesha
10: Kara, Matt, Pamela
9: Scott
8: Gavin
6:
5:
4:
3:
2:
1:

Bruno
10: Kara, Pamela
9: Matt, Scott
8: Gavin
7:
6:
5:
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3:
2:
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