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Old 02-10-2010, 14:28
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Tracy Ann Obermann who played Chrissie said she would love to return now as it was the right time for her. Hopefully Kirkwood will bring her back. She was an excellent character and Tracy was a suberb actress.
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Old 02-10-2010, 14:29
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Cant see a reason why she would return to be honest.

Also isnt she supposed to be in jail for life
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Old 02-10-2010, 14:33
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I can't really see how they'd bring her back into it now to be honest? There's not much there for her now is there?
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Old 02-10-2010, 14:40
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There is already a thread on this I think, merge it with that.

She has no ties to the Square at this moment in time anyway. So no, lets not do a Janine and ruin her.
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Old 02-10-2010, 14:40
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I'm not sure the character could. Where would she fit in?
But I guess EE writers can think of something. Would be good to see her return.
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Old 02-10-2010, 14:50
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i loved Chrissie, but i think her returining would be pointless, unless Sharon, Sam, Zoe or Jake are around.

although, Kat is back there now...
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:25
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I don't see why/how she would but I would LOVE her too fantastic character
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:36
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It might be the right time for the actress if she's kicking around a bit but what possible relevance does her character have to the square? There is absolutely no reason to bring her back, she wasn't that good to start with.
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:36
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There is already a thread on this I think, merge it with that.

She has no ties to the Square at this moment in time anyway. So no, lets not do a Janine and ruin her.
That would be my main fear. Chrissie was a brilliant character - one of EE best, I wouldn't want her returning if she were to go down the same road as Janine and become a token villain, which is all Janine is now.

Chrissie was far more dynamic than that.

On the other hand I would love to see the exchanges between chrissie and janine or with Ronnie.

The people who would now Chrissie still are Phil, kat, alfie, pat, Dot, Stacey... Any others.

I don't think she would be hated in the same was as Janine is (except by Phil); I remember Yolanda and a few other characters asking Jake to tell her they were thinking of her when he went to see her in prison - so it isn't cut and dry.

And although the last time we saw her she was pleading guilty - it wax a bit of a co-out, so it would be easy to say she changed her mind and went for manslaughter (as they could never convict her of murder once she brings in Sam and Zoe - it wouldn't be beyond reasonable doubt).

I know a poster on here has a good idea about rehousing chrissie nearby and her working in the salon.

Personally, I think it would be best to wait and bring her back with either Vicki or sharon; she was close to both and she almost confessed to Sharon (she was stopped by Jake). I think they could be reconciled and they worked well together. Hell, once Sharon finds out about phil's involvement in Dennis death I don't think she'll care too much about Den!!!! Remember, chrissie never meant to kill den and what she is really guilty of is trying to cover it up. But given she was on the verge of confession twice, and showed exteme remorse, there is a lot of room to play with.

But it needs good writing - that's the key. Sarah phelps wrote most of chrissie's stuff and she was one of EE's best ever writers; unless someone similarly talented is there it would just be another Janine.
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:39
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That would be my main fear. Chrissie was a brilliant character - one of EE best, I wouldn't want her returning if she were to go down the same road as Janine and become a token villain, which is all Janine is now.

Chrissie was far more dynamic than that.

On the other hand I would love to see the exchanges between chrissie and janine or with Ronnie.

The people who would now Chrissie still are Phil, kat, alfie, pat, Dot, Stacey... Any others.

I don't think she would be hated in the same was as Janine is (except by Phil); I remember Yolanda and a few other characters asking Jake to tell her they were thinking of her when he went to see her in prison - so it isn't cut and dry.

And although the last time we saw her she was pleading guilty - it wax a bit of a co-out, so it would be easy to say she changed her mind and went for manslaughter (as they could never convict her of murder once she brings in Sam and Zoe - it wouldn't be beyond reasonable doubt).

I know a poster on here has a good idea about rehousing chrissie nearby and her working in the salon.

Personally, I think it would be best to wait and bring her back with either Vicki or sharon; she was close to both and she almost confessed to Sharon (she was stopped by Jake). I think they could be reconciled and they worked well together. Hell, once Sharon finds out about phil's involvement in Dennis death I don't think she'll care too much about Den!!!! Remember, chrissie never meant to kill den and what she is really guilty of is trying to cover it up. But given she was on the verge of confession twice, and showed exteme remorse, there is a lot of room to play with.

But it needs good writing - that's the key. Sarah phelps wrote most of chrissie's stuff and she was one of EE's best ever writers; unless someone similarly talented is there it would just be another Janine.
Janine is far better and far more complex than Chrissie will ever be. Janine has 20 years of screen history behind her. Chrissie was a one story one trick pony with nothing else to offer.
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:40
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It might be the right time for the actress if she's kicking around a bit but what possible relevance does her character have to the square? There is absolutely no reason to bring her back, she wasn't that good to start with.
TAO is actually pretty successful; she just doesn't do just tv but also stage and radio. In fact, and someone can correct me on this, but she had 2 radio plays she wrote done earlier this year - and I think she is currently filming a film.

She just loved her EE character - nothing wrong with that. It's refreshing IMO.
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:50
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She was bloody fantastic! In the 18 months she was there she had me on the edge of my seat throughout Den's murder. Loved her. I don't see how people can call her a one trick pony. Okay so Den's murder was her main storyline but my love for the character started way before that. I loved how she was a match for Den, how she bonded with his kids and really looked after Vicky. I loved her relationship with Jake and I loved her revenge on Kate. I think she could have turned into a memorable character had she been there longer. She could do emotion, drama and comedy
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:52
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She was bloody fantastic! In the 18 months she was there she had me on the edge of my seat throughout Den's murder. Loved her. I don't see how people can call her a one trick pony. Okay so Den's murder was her main storyline but my love for the character started way before that. I loved how she was a match for Den, how she bonded with his kids and really looked after Vicky. I loved her relationship with Jake and I loved her revenge on Kate. I think she could have turned into a memorable character had she been there longer. She could do emotion, drama and comedy
But this is it. People only remember her for Den. Not for her own right. The character designs of Stella and mad May were far stronger. May Wright is the best bitch EastEnders produced this decade but they rushed her story through too fast.
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:56
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I loved Chrissie Watts, but I cannot think of a reason for her to return to the Square. There's nothing for her to return to! Her family has moved on.

What would she do if she returned?
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Old 02-10-2010, 15:59
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But this is it. People only remember her for Den. Not for her own right. The character designs of Stella and mad May were far stronger. May Wright is the best bitch EastEnders produced this decade but they rushed her story through too fast.
BUT obviously she will be remembered for Den and his death as it took all of her short time on the show. Had she stayed for a few more years I'm sure she would have been remembered for more. For example had Janine only been around for the year of Barry's death and had been paired with him the whole time that's all she would be remembered for, had Zoe left after you ain't my mother the character would only be remembered as Kat's daughter

Stella wasn't a well developed character at all IMO we never learnt why she was the way she was and I didn't even find her bitchiness enjoyable to watch she was just disturbing that's not a great bitch.

May was a great bitch yes. Only really had one storyline though

Plus to be honest as I've said before Chrissie wasn't a bitch. She could be but she did it to keep herself safe from trouble. Underneath that she was vunerable. I don't like her for being a bitch I liked the fact she was classy, funny, entertaining and actually got me on her side wanting her to get away with murder.
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Old 02-10-2010, 16:00
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But this is it. People only remember her for Den. Not for her own right. The character designs of Stella and mad May were far stronger. May Wright is the best bitch EastEnders produced this decade but they rushed her story through too fast.

Plus she was also in EastEnders during a pretty shit period where 80% of the characters and stories were crap. She hit lucky in that respect. In a cast such as todays she wouldn't stand out for this very reason. She is not even a legend or an icon. Mention Chrissie Watts on the street and no one will know who she is. Mention Janine Butcher or Kat Slater and they will know instantly.

I loved her at the time but like I said that was because nothing else was going on. She also has no reason at all to return. She hated the place and everyone in it when she left.
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Old 02-10-2010, 17:06
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She was bloody fantastic! In the 18 months she was there she had me on the edge of my seat throughout Den's murder. Loved her. I don't see how people can call her a one trick pony. Okay so Den's murder was her main storyline but my love for the character started way before that. I loved how she was a match for Den, how she bonded with his kids and really looked after Vicky. I loved her relationship with Jake and I loved her revenge on Kate. I think she could have turned into a memorable character had she been there longer. She could do emotion, drama and comedy
She did a whole lot in 18 months - I remember that Vicki storyline, first with the dress where Chrissie and Pauline stayed up all hours, and then when she seduced Vicki's boyfriend to out him as a sleaze.

I wasn't a big fan of her relationship with Jake, but it was still great to watch. And she could do everything - I still remember a great scene she had with Patrick and Jim in the Vic when everyone else was at the club, and the bored expression on her face, doing her nails, as they prattled on was hilarious.

Great character. And TAO is a superb actress. I have seen her in 2 plays and they were both extraodinary. I remember one she did where she played this school teacher coaching a music pupil and sort of living through him - couldn't have been more opposite her EE character if she tried. She had this soft spoken voice and was very passive. I wanted to go see her in the play where she was a South African, but went overseas instead. But her recent play on Radio 4 was great. She got Catherine Tate to be in it and the two were fantastic. I don't know if its still downloadable from iplayer, but people should give it a go. Very diversified actress.
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Old 02-10-2010, 17:52
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She was brilliant (Character and Actress) Would love a return!
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Old 02-10-2010, 18:59
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Plus she was also in EastEnders during a pretty shit period where 80% of the characters and stories were crap. She hit lucky in that respect. In a cast such as todays she wouldn't stand out for this very reason. She is not even a legend or an icon. Mention Chrissie Watts on the street and no one will know who she is. Mention Janine Butcher or Kat Slater and they will know instantly.

I loved her at the time but like I said that was because nothing else was going on. She also has no reason at all to return. She hated the place and everyone in it when she left.
Of course she's not a legend or an icon but that is to do with the length of time she spent on the show. She wouldn't be classed as a iconic when she only spent a year and a half on Eastenders. I honestly believe had she not left when she did and remained landlady of the Vic for a few more years she could have easily become a huge character. Janine would be known by people on the streets as she's been in the show a long time and involved in some huge storylines, Kat will be known by most people mainly because everyone knows "You ain't my muvva". Who's to say if Chrissie hadn't stuck around for few more years and had another big storyline she wouldn't have become just as memorable.

I disagree that she wouldn't stand out in todays cast. I personally would rather watch her than 90% of todays cast. Her character is different from the average fiesty woman you have on the square today and she would bring a touch of class. TAO is a great actress I really believed the character of Chrissie and I actually felt for her and cared about what happens to her which is more than I can say for alot of those today. Yes she was around in a bad time for the show but I don't think you can use that as a reason why she stood out. There's nothing to say she wouldn't have stood out ten years earlier or ten years later. Janine/Barry was in 2004 which was a terrible time for the show but you can't say that makes Janine hit lucky with that storyline being good.

I think part of the problem is she was always associated with the Watts. Don't get me wrong I love the Watts and she was a great member of the family but I think she also had the potenial to be a fantastic character without them.
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Old 03-10-2010, 00:10
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But this is it. People only remember her for Den. Not for her own right. The character designs of Stella and mad May were far stronger. May Wright is the best bitch EastEnders produced this decade but they rushed her story through too fast.
Oh please, this is just not true. Chrissie was a much better designed character. Chrissie was brought in for the long term, May and Stella were designed for specific storylines. Chrissie was far more versatile and played by a fantastic actress, pretty much carrying the show through 2005 and there was so much depth to her. She was brought in to be a strong wife for Den, his counterpart that was not going to be driven to drink like Angie was, she was stronger than that. But we saw how Den destroyed her in a completely different way, making her into this machiavellian character once she had finished him off which basically lead to her downfall. Chrissie was the main reason why she didn't get away with it, because if she hadn't been so controlling and had given Sam what she wanted, etc. The two of them would have been well away, but she didn't, she continued to play games and that was the effect Den had had on her. Her character was designed as a female Den Watts/Lady Macbeth type and the actress delivered on every single script. How you can say Stella and May are better is beyond me.
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Old 03-10-2010, 00:19
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If EE were trying to be realistic, as Chrissie pleaded guilty to murder, the earliest she could be released from jail would be in 2012 (assuming good behaviour,successful parole etc).

I thought they missed a trick in not mentioning her more when Sam Mitchell was in prison recently. When Sam first went inside,she mentioned that she was scared of seeing Chrissy, but this was never followed up when Sam went down for a stretch.

I liked Chrissy, but the only way to bring her back is if she has enough strong links to return. At the moment, with EE's current cast, I don't think it would be easy.

Who knows though in 2012?
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:25
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I loved it when Sam mentioned her last year, they should have done a cameo between the two!
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:29
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By UK law killers aren't allowed to re-enter the area they murdered in once freed from prison as part of the life licence they get.

So Chrissie can never ever return to Walford.
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:36
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By UK law killers aren't allowed to re-enter the area they murdered in once freed from prison as part of the life licence they get.

So Chrissie can never ever return to Walford.
Yeah but when has EE ever let a small thing like the law get in the way
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Old 03-10-2010, 12:48
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Yeah but when has EE ever let a small thing like the law get in the way
True but I don't think they could bend something as serious as this. If she was to return then it could be for a few episodes outside of Walford. That would still work. She just will never be able to be full time.
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