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I am NOT supposed to like Gavin
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SCD-Observer
02-10-2010
...but I have to admit that dance completely took me by surprise. His really is shy and used that 'arrogance' (cross arms etc.) to hide that fact.

So glad he had Katya. Recalled she did well with Phil last year with the basics of a waltz. I thought their waltz was actually quite moving.

Hmm, NOT looking forward to his latin though...
Pollycat76
02-10-2010
Although he danced O K, I felt he appeared very round shouldered at times. He could be a dark horse as I am sure he has support.
Bluebird69
02-10-2010
I actually think that the perceived 'arrogance' is just his extreme shyness. He's clearly not comfortable with demonstrating any emotion - if Katya can help bring that out of him, he could do well.

I know he acts kinda tough and arrogant, but I think he's quite vulnerable underneath it all. I like him too, although I can't quite work out why (and no, it's not for the obviously shallow reasons! )
SCD-Observer
02-10-2010
Originally Posted by Pollycat76:
“Although he danced O K, I felt he appeared very round shouldered at times. He could be a dark horse as I am sure he has support.”

Make no mistake, he's no Austin Healey. I recalled I was properly impressed when Austin did that sweet waltz with Erin. Gavin is not in Austin's league.

But that said, he was good tonight. Not perfect, but good.
Paace
02-10-2010
Katya looks smitten to me . I can see a romance in the air
SCD-Observer
02-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Katya looks smitten to me . I can see a romance in the air ”

I thought Katya is already attached?! I think she's just very proud of Gavin. There might be a little crush there somewhere, but I reckon nothing more. Katya looks very level-headed to me.
Bluebird69
02-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Katya looks smitten to me . I can see a romance in the air ”

Awww, that would be cute! It's about time he got over Charl, she didn't waste any time moving on, did she?
SCD-Observer
02-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“Awww, that would be cute! It's about time he got over Charl, she didn't waste any time moving on, did she? ”

I actually have a feeling that it would be one-sided, in that Gavin will fall for Katya while Katya will be like his sister, bringing out the best in him and boost his confidence through his SCD 'journey'. After all, Gavin already admitted it's not difficult to show emotion when Katya is around, that shows Katya did something right in bringing Gavin out of the shell. It's nice to see. But I can't see any kind of romantic look coming from Katya. Not at all...
Paace
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“Awww, that would be cute! It's about time he got over Charl, she didn't waste any time moving on, did she? ”

No one knows for certain what went on in a relationship. From what I've read Gavin was the one who instigated the breakup after he returned from that Degree North programme. Also I've read it's Gavin who can be the diva and from what I've seen I don't think they're far from wrong.
SCD-Observer
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“No one knows for certain what went on in a relationship. From what I've read Gavin was the one who instigated the breakup after he returned from that Degree North programme. Also I've read it's Gavin who can be the diva and from what I've read and seen I don't think they're far from wrong.”

Gavin and Charlotte both look like they could be diva/divo. Therein lies the problem.
parthena
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“...but I have to admit that dance completely took me by surprise”

I was wishing he wasn't in it, until tonight - the lad done well

parthena
Mystical123
03-10-2010
Katya's got a boyfriend, so I doubt there'll be any romance. She was just as giggly with Phil Tufnell last year.

I was so suprised by Gavin, I expected him to be woeful, but Katya worked miracles, it was a lovely dance.

I don't think his Latin will be as good, but if Katya can turn his training video disaster into that waltz, she may yet get him to salsa!
SCD-Observer
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“Katya's got a boyfriend, so I doubt there'll be any romance. She was just as giggly with Phil Tufnell last year.

I was so suprised by Gavin, I expected him to be woeful, but Katya worked miracles, it was a lovely dance.

I don't think his Latin will be as good, but if Katya can turn his training video disaster into that waltz, she may yet get him to salsa!”

I just watched the show again in iplayer and did you see Katya in the VT showing Gavin how to do the 'hip' movement? He seemed to get it doing at that speed. Whether he could do that in front of millions of audience remains to be seen...
mimicole
03-10-2010
I think I must have missed his dance..I was cooking dinner
williamh
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Gavin and Charlotte both look like they could be diva/divo. Therein lies the problem.”

They probably both wanted to wear the trousers and with her earnings I suspect she out-trousered him and he couldn't take it.
Bluebird69
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“No one knows for certain what went on in a relationship. From what I've read Gavin was the one who instigated the breakup after he returned from that Degree North programme. Also I've read it's Gavin who can be the diva and from what I've seen I don't think they're far from wrong.”

Of course it's true that none of us really know the truth behind the split - probably not even their family and close friends, and from my own personal experience of a marriage break-up we often like to present our own version of 'the truth'. Not lying, as such, just leaving out the stuff we think might reflect on us in a bad light.

Maybe Gav did instigate the breakup, I don't know. But my gut feeling, from the speed that Charlotte has moved on to a new fella (that she had already been working with for a few months), is that she had already moved on emotionally, if not physically. Her heart wasn't in the relationship anymore. And if that was the case, who could blame Gavin for ending things? But that's just my opinion, my gut feeling based on observation of life and people over the years.

If Gavin has been playing the field since, the local press have been remarkably restrained, which makes me think he probably hasn't. All the interviews he's given, he comes across as a devoted Dad who was very hurt by the split, and is still coming to terms with it.

It's too early to tell if there's any spark between Gavin and Katya (he's not a 'heart on his sleeve' type of man, is he? ) but I think it would be nice if he found a bit of romance with somebody on the show
Georgiecats
03-10-2010
I don't think anybody knows him well enough to say he's "arrogant". He's hardly ever spoken in public or done anything except partner Charlotte Church and play rugby.

We have got to know him a bit better with the 71 degrees North show - so it's great to see another side of him. He's competitive sure but that's being a sportsman.

He comes across quite shy and awkward as a dancer - I really hope he gets into it. They have to pretend to be someone else while they're dancing for those few minutes, and really show off. Once they work that out, they let go a bit better.

I think he will improve - and probably do very well. He will certainly be kept in by the female vote - we do need something to look at!
Ignazio
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bluebird69:
“I actually think that the perceived 'arrogance' is just his extreme shyness. He's clearly not comfortable with demonstrating any emotion - if Katya can help bring that out of him, he could do well.

I know he acts kinda tough and arrogant, but I think he's quite vulnerable underneath it all. I like him too, although I can't quite work out why (and no, it's not for the obviously shallow reasons! )”

Within his own sporting field of rugby the general consensus of colleagues and Welsh supporters does seem to be that he is touched by arrogance.

Of course some would say that to reach the pinnace of one's career a little arrogance is necessary, but I hope he keeps it under wraps for SCD.
Girlygiggler
03-10-2010
Gavin seems to come across very shy and uncomfortable in an unfamiliar situation. If Katya can improve his confidence levels, I think he could be big competition.
I was pleasantly suprised by last night's performance.
Jan2555*GG*
03-10-2010
I was frankly staggered that he pulled it off. I am hoping that the boost this will do to his confiedence will hold him in good stead for the Salsa. I think Katya was just as proud as punch and who could blame her, everyone including the judges thought he was going to be awful and she obviouly had a great deal of work to do and got frustrated at times as their VT showed, but on show night he stepped up to the plate and pulled it off, I think if he can pull of the latin he will be a serious contender.
Mambo Italiano
03-10-2010
I like him a lot - easy on the eyes too!

He is a strange mix of shyness, arrogance, self-conciousness and vainty! He's certainly very competitive, could be one to watch if his Latin is good (would give him something to fall back on now he seems to have messed up his rugby career).
Eviesmum
03-10-2010
I thought he was great on last nights show, I'm chuffed as Katya is my fave professional - I thought she did wonders with him.

I think he comes across as really shy.
LishaG
03-10-2010
Originally Posted by SCD-Observer:
“Make no mistake, he's no Austin Healey. I recalled I was properly impressed when Austin did that sweet waltz with Erin. Gavin is not in Austin's league.

But that said, he was good tonight. Not perfect, but good.”


It's only the first freaking show. You don't know that yet.
Veri
03-10-2010
I don't know whether I'm supposed to like him or not. But I don't like him.
fern3
03-10-2010
Surprisingly I do like him. And I was expecting not to.
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