[CJClarke]

I really don't get all the support for Routh. Sure, he looked the part, but he was a charisma free zone. He was passable, but i certainly wouldn't be bothered if he didn't come back.

I'd imagine that the reason why they don't want him back is because most people would see the trailer for the new one and assume that it's a sequel to Superman Returns (which it seems didn't go down too well), when the new film is going an a new direction. With a new actor they get to start completely from scratch and build a new audience as well as get all the fanboys back (protest all you want, but you know you'll be there on opening weekend, regardless of who is playing Clark Kent).

If they want a more mature CK then i'd definitely vote for Jon Hamm, he looks like CK did in the older comics and having watched Mad Men he's a brilliant actor.

[Listentome]

Originally Posted by Joel's dad

How old was Reeves in superman IV?

About 35 I think. I think the difference is he was established in the role by then. Its like Roger Moore carrying on as Bond even at 60. To start a new series of movies they would probably want an actor in his 20s who can grow in the role and appeal to kids.

[MrSuper]

If they reboot it then they need to start from scratch and that means no Routh and no one associated with Singer's Superman. Jon Hamm would be perfect but the role will go to a younger and somewhat unknown or not that famous an actor. Look at Batman, who'd have thought Christian Bale would play Bruce Wayne! He also wasn't that well known with the masses. If you think along those lines that's the kind of actor Nolan/Snyder will cast.

[Alameals]

Rumours of Anna Hathaway for Lois Lane. Also rumours that the film will start in South Africa with Clark "findind his way"

[MrSuper]

Another rumour is Matthew Goode as Clark Kent/Superman and he has previously worked with Snyder before on Watchmen.

Personally, nah! Don't like him.

[Paddy C]

I like the scene at the end of Kill Bill 2 where Bill explains how Superman is a unique superhero as he has to pretend to be a normal human, whereas most others pretend to be superhuman, and his alter-ego of Clark Kent is his critique of the human race as pathetic, nerdy bunch who can't defend themselves.

Dunno why, I just always thought that was a very clever scene and I suppose it is quite true.

[Syntax Error]

Originally Posted by mistereli

Shame about Brandon Routh not coming back. He said he wanted too.

I thought Routh was right for the role.

He does have that 'Superman' look & I thought Superman Returns was a decent film, even if it is a tad bizarre that they never explained how Clark Kent & Kal El both disappeared at the same time & both returned simultaneously after 5 years & nobody in Smallville.Metropolis etc twigged that something was awry.

[Motthus]

Does anyone else find it strange that the new Superman film is going to be released in December next year?I thought it would have been a summer blockbuster but I guess The Dark Knight Rises stopped that happening!

[kdog2010]

Hope it's better than this one...

http://popped-corn.blogspot.com/2010...n-returns.html

[Joel's dad]

I don't care when it's released as long as it's soon lol

but yeah Batman obviously took priority and it would of been silly for WB to release both at the same time..

[Motthus]

Diane Lane has been cast as Martha Kent with rumours of Kevin Costner as Jonathan Kent

[Orangemaid]

Old superman Christopher Reeve is on again today in Superman lll channel 5( i think)

Superman ll was on yesterday..I do love those films, but a new superman just isn't the same

[Gulftastic]

Superman 3 annoyed me no end (but not as much as 4), due to him taking a bit of a kicking from the Supercomputer at the end. He should have beaten it easily.

I did love the 'Red'' kryptonite split junkyard fight though. That was pure comics all the way.

[mrcynical]

Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy

he combs his hair different as well tho

They could get another actor to play Clark Kent. Someone black perhaps

[Syntax Error]

Originally Posted by Gulftastic

Superman 3 annoyed me no end (but not as much as 4), due to him taking a bit of a kicking from the Supercomputer at the end. He should have beaten it easily.

I did love the 'Red'' kryptonite split junkyard fight though. That was pure comics all the way.

Superman 4 was a total embarrassment to the franchise.

It's amazing that 9 years separates Superman from Superman 4, yet the special effects in the first Superman film are far superior to those in the fourth film.

[Motthus]

Unfortunatly that is a problem that this new Superman film will have is that people will compare it to the Christopher Reeve Superman film

[Rhinestone]

Originally Posted by Syntax Error

Superman 4 was a total embarrassment to the franchise.

It's amazing that 9 years separates Superman from Superman 4, yet the special effects in the first Superman film are far superior to those in the fourth film.

I know! It seems to be the case with other franchises as well.

Star Trek V and Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade (to a lesser extent) come to mind.

Star Trek V is flat out embarrassing, and everytime I see Last Crusade I'm amazed at how bad the blue screen is in the cockpit sequence, compared to Raiders which has not one bad blue screen shot in the whole picture and was made eight years earlier.

Oh, and let's not forget 1999's The Mummy. Going from the first film to the second film over merely a few years, it's literally like the budget was cut in half the drop off in effects is so noticeable. Remember the CGI legendary disaster that was "The Scorpion King?"

[Rhinestone]

We went from this.... to THIS.

[Gulftastic]

The Matrix suffered a drop in the ffects standards too. Whilst the second one had some jaw droppingly brilliant sequences (the Freeway chase, the fight on the stairs), the battle between Neo and the multiple Smiths was terrible. Neo looked like he was made of platicine.

[belfastkid]

Speaking of Superman films, why can none of the films get to the fact that Superman is too strong to be botherd by missles, by supercomputers etc etc. I know a certain amount of care has to be taken to make the films still enjoyable but for god sake superman could sneeze a solar system away, he should never be getting tossed around by missles hitting him.

[Rhinestone]

I generally think of the Reeve Superman films like this:

Superman - Great, a classic!

Superman II - Good, very uneven, but still within the line of what I consider to be of a quality work. I certainly wouldn't consider it today to be close to the quality of the original however.

Superman III - Outside of the junkyard fight, Reeve's physique and the expensive special effects, it's woefully terrible, and Richard Pryor is god awful, painfully miscast, and not funny at all.

Superman IV - Abysmal. It's a disgrace to Superman in ways the misguided production of III couldn't even begin to top.

[satman17]

So is Superman so poor channel 5 are not showing it?

[Rhinestone]

Would they dare show Superman IV in HD?

Just looking at the film with DVD resolution is enough to cause one's self to be shocked.

Whilst Channel 5 are being brought up, I've said it before, I'll say it again, somebody at that network needs a good clout round the ear for showing the original Superman in such poor quality.

When are they going to learn it's not the 1980s anymore?

No HD, 20/30 year old print, in mono and it wasn't even in genuine 16:9 widescreen zoomed from the original anamorphic ratio, just full screen cropped. Pathetic.

Superman II was taken from a far more recent HD master and therefore looked much better, but even for that they used an absolutely hideous mono mix. The 5.1 surround mix on the Special Edition DVD blows that dated audio mix away.

Thank goodness for Blu-ray and Sky HD.

[Fiddyshilling]

Kevin Costner is Jonathan Kent!

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=30229

Pretty good choice IMO

[Motthus]

Yeah it's been rumoured for a while but glad to see it confirmed as it's good casting!