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Natalie "I'm going to win"
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phoebefair
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“She's big, she's blonde, she's beautiful, she's fit, she's a high achiever - what's not to hate? ”

LOL. Sums up whole thread neatly.
fancynancy
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“Natalie's beautiful? She's not enough to put me off my food, but is she really an enticement to my shallow pretext of terpsichorean titillation?”

You'd turn her down, would you?

Huh?
phoebefair
06-10-2010
Come on guys it's been 1h10m since the last post.

I've got money on this thread surviving until Friday.
lynxmale
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by fancynancy:
“You'd turn her down, would you?

Huh?”

I don't know, I have to find a hole in my busy schedule, normally consisting of feeding crumbs & beer to Sid the Slug, and prancing around in front of the webcam in my home-made replica Ola Jordan outfits . Sid really likes the one with the tickler feathers at the back.
JigglyAoife
06-10-2010
I don't hate Natalie. But she does terrify me.
(Runs and hides from both factions)
fancynancy
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“I don't know, I have to find a hole in my busy schedule, normally consisting of feeding crumbs & beer to Sid the Slug, and prancing around in front of the webcam in my home-made replica Ola Jordan outfits . Sid really likes the one with the tickler feathers at the back.”



Does Sid know you're taking his name in vain?
PasoHardly
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by Caramel Crunch:
“Why are you so determined to dislike Natalie?”

I actually don't. I did. But I've warmed to her more since she's been paired with Scott. And I'm glad I've been proved wrong to a degree.

I can understand why people are turned off her though by the "way" she says things, even if that's not her intention.

Her choreography was terrific and clever on Friday.
cranford fan
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“How on earth do you know that Natalie doesn't want to win for Scott as much as herself? All of the other pros didn't say 'I want to win for X as well as for myself', because they just weren't afforded enough time to do that - Ola didn't even get given the chance in her intro to say she'd like to defend her title!

Natalie couldn't be more opposite of 'me, me me'. Last time I met her she told me that all she thinks about is the audience, the people who are watching the show that she is paid to be on, and how they deserve to get the best possible performance and entertainment with 110% of her effort every single week (she was talking in context of the pro tour, but the same applies to the show, it's her overarching mentality); So that means putting every effort into training her celeb the best she can and ensuring that the dance is the highest standard she can attain in a week.

I didn't like her choreography on Friday, but it certainly wasn't all about her, she had Scott leading her, and the woman naturally looks to be doing more in the ballroom, that's just the way it is. Her choreography was brave, trying to be different and give the wow factor. It didn't work for me, but you can't knock her for trying!



Oh for goodness sake, so it's all down to her sentence structure really, isn't it? If she'd said 'I'm aiming for the final', as Ola did, none of you would have batted an eyelid, and I really do find it astounding that you won't even consider that it basically means the same thing- she can't predict the future, so 'I'm going to be in the final' really means 'I'm going to try my hardest to get to the final', which is exactly what all the others pros said in different ways.”

Sentence structure is important. There is a big difference between 'going to' which implies a degree of certainty and 'aiming to' which implies hope or intent. I've been trying to like Natalie and I think she's a fantastic dancer. I've read lots of comments about how lovely she was on the pro tour and I've really no problem with her doing her absolute best to make the final and win but language is important.
Mystical123
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by cranford fan:
“Sentence structure is important. There is a big difference between 'going to' which implies a degree of certainty and 'aiming to' which implies hope or intent. I've been trying to like Natalie and I think she's a fantastic dancer. I've read lots of comments about how lovely she was on the pro tour and I've really no problem with her doing her absolute best to make the final and win but language is important.”

I agree it's usually important, but not in this context. You cannot say that Natalie has any certainty about making the final, she could be voted off this Saturday for all she or anyone else knows, therefore it doesn't make a jot of difference whether she says 'I'm going to be in the final' or 'I really, really want to get to the final'. The end result is the same - she doesn't know whether she will be in the final or not, so all she is doing is expressing an aspiration in different language to what another pro used. And it'd be frankly boring if they all said the exact same sentence anyway....
gibletjohn
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by Bourdain:
“What exactly makes you so mad? That she has the intestinal fortitude you can only dream of to have a conviction and belief in her abilities?”

No because she's a cocky old bint with a gob bigger than her talent...and eyes like ET...
shuddupfluffy
07-10-2010
Sorry to be so brash on a first post in this thread, but......

.....does anyone else get the impression that she's a transsexual with implants?


Just me? I'll get me coat!
gibletjohn
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by shuddupfluffy:
“Sorry to be so brash on a first post in this thread, but......

.....does anyone else get the impression that she's a transsexual with implants?


Just me? I'll get me coat!”

Sure I saw her in the line up at the Vauxhall Tavern on "Chicks with Dicks" night
shuddupfluffy
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“Sure I saw her in the line up at the Vauxhall Tavern on "Chicks with Dicks" night”

I heard she's in Priscilla, Queen of the Desert' after SCD finishes!

...it's the chin!
DavidJames
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“Sure I saw her in the line up at the Vauxhall Tavern on "Chicks with Dicks" night”

Hey, you were there too?
gibletjohn
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Hey, you were there too? ”

I was at the front. Got a birds eye view of the offending "jewels"
shuddupfluffy
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“I was at the front. Got a birds eye view of the offending "jewels"”

OMG! what have I started?

Anyway, what are you having for dinner tonight? Us, why meat and two veg, of course!
DavidJames
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“I was at the front. Got a birds eye view of the offending "jewels"”

Ah, that was you, I was wondering who that was.
Mystical123
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“No because she's a cocky old bint with a gob bigger than her talent...and eyes like ET...”

Have you met her?

This thread did seem to be veering towards the humourous, but remarks like that are entirely unnecessary!!
gibletjohn
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Ah, that was you, I was wondering who that was.”

Had my sequined opera glasses on me...just to be sure!
gibletjohn
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by Mystical123:
“ Have you met her?

This thread did seem to be veering towards the humourous, but remarks like that are entirely unnecessary!!”

Why, I loved ET.....although he did want to go home (or was that phone home)
Mystical123
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by gibletjohn:
“Why, I loved ET.....although he did want to go home (or was that phone home)”

Wasn't that part of your post I objected to....
Posy
07-10-2010
Getting back to Natalie, has she been on with claudia yet?
Wonder if she will be rather less abrasive than last year?
Vivacious Lady
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by cranford fan:
“Sentence structure is important. There is a big difference between 'going to' which implies a degree of certainty and 'aiming to' which implies hope or intent. .”

Not for a sportsperson or competitor. Aren't they supposed to visualize winning in which case "I'm aiming to" isn't good enough?

I'm sure some of the other pros have said much the same thing. I don't see what all the fuss is about.
cranford fan
07-10-2010
Originally Posted by Vivacious Lady:
“Not for a sportsperson or competitor. Aren't they supposed to visualize winning in which case "I'm aiming to" isn't good enough?

I'm sure some of the other pros have said much the same thing. I don't see what all the fuss is about.”

OK but when a competitor's success in a competition is partly dependent on securing the support of the voting public it may be unwise to use such language.
lynxmale
07-10-2010
I'm far too manly to feel threatened by a cocky woman even if she does look like a tranny. I have a special device I bought from the Innovations catalogue to detect one, called the Upskirtamatic®.
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