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Broken Michelle
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PasoHardly
06-10-2010
Is it just me or would anyone else agree Michelle almost came across as broken on ITT.

She really DIDN'T expect those comments did she?

Very interesting she mentioned the VT, but avoided the mention of her saying she wanted 8+ as quite rightly, it probably did add to the negativity of the comments received. If you openly state you "would like" or "expect" no less than 8 and there are problems with the dance, it's understandable why a judge will feel the need to put a person in their place so they're aware of where they're starting from and aren't deluded. That may just be me though.

I also liked how she says if the dancing wasn't that great, they could have at least gave her some positive comments - even about her eye make up looking fierce?! Ok, I'm paraphrasing - but she was serious! Finally, Alesha's purpose on the panel can be realised. Lol.

I think the fun element of taking part, not just winning is escaping her completely. It was such an uncomfortable interview.

Just feel she needs to lighten up an let us warm to he if she wants to stay in.

Does anyone else agree she looked broken almost by all the criticism?
Caramel Crunch
06-10-2010
No! I thought she was a sulky puss.
Xio
06-10-2010
I didn't see her on ITT. I do think this is going to hurt her image, if not her career. Most of the celebs who take part on Strictly do so because they need a relaunch.

Michelle had a very stable career before Strictly. I think she genuinely thought that she was a good dancer. The comment about wanting high scores made her look foolish, arrogant and deluded.
phoebefair
06-10-2010
I think she grumped a bit at the weekend too. Something along lines of "...now I'm BBC property". What was that all about?
PasoHardly
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by Xio:
“I didn't see her on ITT. I do think this is going to hurt her image, if not her career. Most of the celebs who take part on Strictly do so because they need a relaunch.

Michelle had a very stable career before Strictly. I think she genuinely thought that she was a good dancer. The comment about wanting high scores made her look foolish, arrogant and deluded.”

I won't be surprised if she's this year's Heather Small without the personality.

The British Public as a whole, I personally think, don't respond to someone who talks the talk, but can't walk the walk - and really struggles to cope with the critique.

Had she laughed it off and held her hands up, dead on, but she really makes me want to turn off the TV now. She doesn't Want to accept they may have had a point, except about her legs which she agrees with.

Personally, I would tell her to let it go, admit she didn't see what the judges saw and agree to differ and concentrate on the Foxtrot and having a good time and not taking it quite so seriously this week.
Abbasolutely 40
06-10-2010
I didnt see anything broken , I saw a sulky toddler who had possibly over dosed on E numbers and was now in a moody .
BuddyBontheNet
06-10-2010
I agree with the OP. I did think the judges comments were a bit negative given she got three 6s and a 7, but tbh I blame Brendan. Clearly her legs were the main problem and she was surprised at the comments, so Brendan must have let her think she was doing really well. The two of them are having a great time in training, but I think that Brendan needs to get serious and start working on Michelle's technique or they will be out very quickly.

I'd never heard of Michelle before it was announced that she'd be on the show, but before she danced on Saturday I had been following her on Twitter and took part on an online chat session with her and about 150 others last week. She was great fun, not at all arrogant. She clearly has a positive outlook on life and is a 'family' person and takes her Christian upbringing seriously.

I do think we have a problem in this country when people don't show enough humility! I've been guilty thinking this myself, but I now I can see the other side of the coin too!
Xio
06-10-2010
To be fair, Alesha only gave her a 7 because she was a fan of Destiny's Child. She certainly didn't deserve it.
mrsdidi
06-10-2010
Maybe i am just an old softy but I do wish the judges would not just concentrate on the negative but would also find the good in the performances, alright I know sometimes that can be quite difficult

Michelle was very stiff during her performance but she did put in a good "performance" I think that her background does her no favours as she was perceived as being a "good" dancer but as she herself pointed out she has never had any experience of anything like the dances she is going to have to perform on the show. I just think that the judges should not only be there to dish out marks but to give constructive criticism of the dancing and in my opinion there was nothing constructive on the comments to Michelle, she was not the best dancer at the weekend and I dont have any favourites yet but I do think she was given a hard time
milmol
06-10-2010
I was really confused by her interview too. seemed like a different person from the training footage of last week. It wasn't the most comfortable viewing, but if she is genuinely that down and its purely because of her negative comments then she & brendan have a bit of a problem on their hands considering its now Wednesday and they're still dwelling on those negatives with a performance just a few days away
fancynancy
06-10-2010
I never imagined I'd ever feel sorry for Brendan - but now I do.

Poor sod.
Monkseal
06-10-2010
Saying "they could have mixed in a little bit of positive" is pure Brendan. I doubt she's exactly saying that against his wishes. I like Brendan, but he has a bad habit of taking people's egos and inflating them. It was the same with Lisa - by the end he was filling her head with how amazing she was and how dreadful everyone else was and she was just spewing directly through her ear into her mouth.
lynxmale
06-10-2010
What an interesting idea, can you show me how it's done?
phoebefair
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“What an interesting idea, can you show me how it's done?”

It's perfectly feasible when there is no grey matter in the way to impede the flow.
Paace
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by mrsdidi:
“Maybe i am just an old softy but I do wish the judges would not just concentrate on the negative but would also find the good in the performances, alright I know sometimes that can be quite difficult

Michelle was very stiff during her performance but she did put in a good "performance" I think that her background does her no favours as she was perceived as being a "good" dancer but as she herself pointed out she has never had any experience of anything like the dances she is going to have to perform on the show. I just think that the judges should not only be there to dish out marks but to give constructive criticism of the dancing and in my opinion there was nothing constructive on the comments to Michelle, she was not the best dancer at the weekend and I dont have any favourites yet but I do think she was given a hard time”

They did give her constructive criticism.
Bruno: You have to control the arms and legs and extend all the way. Work on your strength, keep your centre, spot.

Len: Work on strength through your legs which will produce a better hip action.

Alesha: I love you Michelle.
lynxmale
06-10-2010
^said like this? Alesha: I love you Michelle. you're my besht mate you are. 'ave one on me *hic*.. don' let the bashtards grind ya down...
Jan2555*GG*
06-10-2010
I dont know about being 'broken' but the VT shown of the training room did her no favours......she is like an hyperactive 2 year old. I cant see her Foxtrot being anything special as she wont have the core strength needed to be good. I hope she goes home sooner rather than later. If she gets more of the same comments I can see her throwing her teddies out of the pram and leaving the show before she is pushed. I wonder if the judges have been told to lay off this week.
phoebefair
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“I dont know about being 'broken' but the VT shown of the training room did her no favours......she is like an hyperactive 2 year old. I cant see her Foxtrot being anything special as she wont have the core strength needed to be good. I hope she goes home sooner rather than later. If she gets more of the same comments I can see her throwing her teddies out of the pram and leaving the show before she is pushed. I wonder if the judges have been told to lay off this week.”

I expect so. She must be quite expensive.
21stCenturyBoy
06-10-2010
I really want her to improve. Imagine she's got a Foxtrot this week- perfect time to put some of her Chicago steps to use.
katmobile
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“I didnt see anything broken , I saw a sulky toddler who had possibly over dosed on E numbers and was now in a moody .”

Take that back! I'm a mother of a toddler (almost 21 months old) and my daughter has more charm than that

I noticed how she mentioned that she ain't danced before and how people forget that but neglected to mention how she said she was expected 8's in her first week - yes Michelle we remember that alright. Alesha said she loved Michelle - you girl are in a minority of one.
washboard
06-10-2010
I didn't warm to her on ITT either, and my first reaction was 'sulky little madam'.

However, I'll give her the benefit of the doubt for the moment. She may be experiencing culture shock head-on.

I don't watch Dancing with the Stars as much as I watch Strictly (I don't watch anything as much as I watch Strictly!! ) but it certainly takes a very different approach to judging, comments and marking. Sometimes it seems (to me) that the contestants on DWTS get an 8 just for turning up!

In those circumstances - if that's the kind of approach you're used to seeing in a "celebrity dancing reality show" - maybe saying that you hope you get at least an 8 might be the same as hoping you at least get pass marks?

And, if you're used to seeing people being told that they look lovely, are wearing a fabulous dress and the most awesome eyeshadow, had lots of energy, were entertaining, that it was great watching them..... (but they need to do a bit more work on the dancing.... )....

I can understand why it would be a real shock to the system to be told the bald truth. In the 'entertainingly' cutting style used in British reality TV programmes.

Time (and her future behaviour) will tell.

If it turns out that she is just a sulky little madam, I'll have learnt to go with my first reactions!
BuddyBontheNet
06-10-2010
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Saying "they could have mixed in a little bit of positive" is pure Brendan. I doubt she's exactly saying that against his wishes. I like Brendan, but he has a bad habit of taking people's egos and inflating them. It was the same with Lisa - by the end he was filling her head with how amazing she was and how dreadful everyone else was and she was just spewing directly through her ear into her mouth.”


That's why I said I blame Brendan. He must have given her the impression that she was doing really well to expect 8s in the first week - or at least not corrected her if she was delusional! She came down with a bump and is probably doubtful now about whether she can please the judges or not. Even the first week of DWTS saw scores from 5 to 8, and only 4 out of 10 couples got an 8.

I hope she has a good week on Saturday and can bounce back.
-Sid-
06-10-2010
I tend to like Michellle for the very reasons she seems to rub everyone else up the wrong way!

I feel like she's very genuine and I feel frustrated for her.

She's a little bit crazy and unpredictable but that makes her interesting in my eyes. She doesn't trot out the usual platitudes. She says what she's actually thinking and feeling. She's human!
lynxmale
06-10-2010
Give over, you sound like you're lecturing Spock, Bones!
claire2281
06-10-2010
I think Michelle had a genuine, understandable grievance.

The cardinal rule of giving feedback is to balance the positive and negative. The only judge who I ever see making a concerted effort to do this is Craig.

Michelle was totally right imo to point out that it would have been better for the judges to say what she did well too. They seemed to have high expectations of her and therefore concentrated on the negative when she didn't meet them.
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