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What is this phone line device for?
pb3
06-10-2010
A friend of mine has an unknown device fitted to the BT wiring outside his house, and wants to know what it does. It's a long cylinder shape and is made by 3M corporation. Image linked below:

http://www.peterbaran.com/misc/device.jpg
Dung hole Dave
06-10-2010
it just seals the join in the cable and keeps water out
pb3
06-10-2010
Interesting. Why is it so large if that's all it does?
Ignite
10-10-2010
I think it's a joint for a larger number of lines than the normal line that goes to a property. This is the sort of thing that you would expect to see in a block of flats or the like, though I have seen it linking up a row of houses where the cable runs along the building from one end to the other rather than all coming off a pole.
spiney2
15-10-2010
Yep! Waterproof junction box, as said.

Standard phone wiring uses 6 wires, There are 6 pins on the rj11 jack, 2 currently not used, 4 used for distributed wiring .........

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html
beerhunter2
21-10-2010
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“Yep! Waterproof junction box, as said.

Standard phone wiring uses 6 wires, There are 6 pins on the rj11 jack, 2 currently not used, 4 used for distributed wiring .........

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html”

I think that you are little confused between the external stuff and Internal wiring "Standard phone wiring" does not use six wires, The external telephone wiring to premises is generally a two pair cable although only one pair is actually used; the other pair being a spare. Even in large junction boxes each circuit is only carried on a single pair.

BTW, even Internal wiring only needs one pair. The ring circuit hasn't actually been needed for donkey's years and the other three wires have never been used.
spiney2
01-11-2010
Only a sinlge pair from exchange. No recall. We don;t now have party lines (listening to neighbours used to be fun).

I believe any BT installed extensions after the master socket still use all 6 wires.
beerhunter2
02-11-2010
Originally Posted by spiney2:
“I believe any BT installed extensions after the master socket still use all 6 wires.”

Nope. Not that I have ever seen. 2, 3 & 5 are usually connected even though 3 is unnecessary. Some say that BT have connected 4 for neatness in the past but I haven't come cross it. The only time I have found all six connected was when the work was carried out by the householder or sparkies and the like. ('Cos it's wrong.)
chrisjr
02-11-2010
Originally Posted by beerhunter2:
“Nope. Not that I have ever seen. 2, 3 & 5 are usually connected even though 3 is unnecessary. Some say that BT have connected 4 for neatness in the past but I haven't come cross it. The only time I have found all six connected was when the work was carried out by the householder or sparkies and the like. ('Cos it's wrong.)”

The only time I have seen more than 2,3 & 5 connected is for office PABX systems. Very often 4 is also connected as an earth for extra features like recall and the like. For example when you want to forward a call to a different extension.

I have also seen systems which use 1 and 6. These would be specialised systems that have clever extension phones with loads of non-standard features. The extra pair is used for data signalling back to the PABX unit.
spiney2
02-11-2010
"Although pin 4 has no function in a domestic installation it is usually connected for the sake of neatness. The quality of wiring carried out by many older BT wiremen is often approaching art in its perfection."

http://www.wppltd.demon.co.uk/WPP/Wi...telephone.html

Phone cable is 6 core. You're adding an rj connector, Y not all 6 wires?
beerhunter2
02-11-2010
I know about that statement on that site and I do not agree with it. Posting something on a web sites doesn't make it true.

I'm not sure what you mean by: "Phone cable is 6 core. You're adding an rj connector, Y not all 6 wires?"
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