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Old 29-12-2010, 21:34
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I wonder how many in the UK? I think it's a hobby product here.
It will continue to do so too. Till apple enable renting of TV shows and offer something to rival netflix (say lovefilm) then many won't get it. I have an apple tv 2g. and i like it but the missing TV shows tab is annoying and theres no netflix alternative.

Also I think if something 'like' PS3's vidzone and perhaps at least BBC iplayer, maybe even sky player too? would deffo make the apple tv 2nd gen a better device.
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Old 30-12-2010, 07:56
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It will continue to do so too. Till apple enable renting of TV shows and offer something to rival netflix (say lovefilm) then many won't get it. I have an apple tv 2g. and i like it but the missing TV shows tab is annoying and theres no netflix alternative.

Also I think if something 'like' PS3's vidzone and perhaps at least BBC iplayer, maybe even sky player too? would deffo make the apple tv 2nd gen a better device.
The real killer app which is missing from Apple TV is a TV tuner. While Lovefilm has a great selection of TV shows via its online service, these are mostly back catalogue titles and not yet available on any of its services configured for TV screens (of course this doesn't prevent you from hooking up your PC to your TV).

As for Apple allowing iPlayer and Sky Player, I can't see it happening. The whole point of the iTunes Store is that it makes Apple the de facto gatekeeper, allowing it to control price points and what gets distribution.
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:38
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The real killer app which is missing from Apple TV is a TV tuner. While Lovefilm has a great selection of TV shows via its online service, these are mostly back catalogue titles and not yet available on any of its services configured for TV screens (of course this doesn't prevent you from hooking up your PC to your TV).
I think lovefilm is pretty poor with their online service. they gave me 2 hours free to watch what I want and to be honest I can't find much worth watching. I did watch Wallace and Gromit just to see what the quality is like.


It is ok if you are on one of the higher subscriptions anyway, but I will not move subscription just to get it.,


As for Apple allowing iPlayer and Sky Player, I can't see it happening. The whole point of the iTunes Store is that it makes Apple the de facto gatekeeper, allowing it to control price points and what gets distribution.
At least Apple have put the price down for the unit, which is not normal for Apple.
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Old 02-01-2011, 10:33
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I think lovefilm is pretty poor with their online service. they gave me 2 hours free to watch what I want and to be honest I can't find much worth watching. I did watch Wallace and Gromit just to see what the quality is like.
+ 1. I had such a painful set up when trying to associate my LF account with my Sony Blu-ray player that LF gave me 6 hours' worth of online time. Like you, I've struggled to use barely an hour of it.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:46
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Well it seems that Google TV hasn't gone quite to plan... The Logitech Revue has been reduced from a initial $299 to $249 to $99.

It will work with the new update due 'soon'

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-200...pple-tv-at-$99

It can be purchased in the UK for just under £100 delivered via Amazon US
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/logi...zon-com/987964
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Old 02-08-2011, 19:01
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Well it seems that Google TV hasn't gone quite to plan...
Some of the coverage was pretty damning: customers returned units at a greater rate than Logitech was able to sell.

The price reduction may help as it brings it into line with Apple TV. The paradox of another product, TiVo, when it was available in the U.K. was that it was only in the final months of retail availability when the likes of Dixons slashed the price to £99 that it started selling in any noteworthy volumes - but that was just an act of clearance on the retailers' part.

Google TV faces a disadvantage on three fronts: it hasn't got the product right (I rest my case at anything to do with watching stuff on a telly requiring a keyboard), plus the company isn't trusted by the very people which will supply it with good content; also this was a product designed by engineers, rather than starting with user need. This is what Apple gets right the majority of the time.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:02
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I have heard a lot of times on these forums and others, you wait till Google bring their T.v to the UK that will sort things out, yeah sure it will.

it is a shame that Logitech decided to produce products for Google TV, I like Logitech stuff, I got a G11 keyboard, a G500 mouse and one of their webcams.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:51
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Google TV will be he soon with the aim of early 2012 (Like YouView), I know this for an almost certain fact (I have no evidence before anyone asks), because I work for Sony and the last time I was at their HO on training they had a brief discussion with us saying that the Sony/Google TV's will be launching here in the UK.
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Old 03-08-2011, 16:02
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Which may explain Sony's view on YouView.
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Old 03-08-2011, 21:26
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i doubt sony will make much difference to You view to be honest. You view will if it gets going be mainly a PVR, be it freeview or Freesat. Sony PVRS are few and far between.


i said it before and I will say it again, apart from the odd thing people watch on BBC Iplayer and stuff like that VOD over standard ADSL connections will fail because our cooper wire system in this country is years old and falling apart

If fibre covers a large percentage of the country, it proves to be reliable, but this is Bt we are talking about and at a decent price, but again this is BT, then VOD may take off .


According to a BT bloke i was chatting to on Monday at a mates place as he was having his cable redone, we should be getting fibre here late this year or early next year.
I believe it when I see it and then it depends on what cabinets are converted.

i would love VOD, then I could do away with the BBC Tax, un less they move the goal post
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Old 20-08-2011, 08:12
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More Google TV news this week:

Sony slashes Google TV prices

Here's What Motorola Could Do for Google's TV Ambitions

Google TV won't be saved by Motorola acquisition
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Old 21-08-2011, 08:01
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so much for the Google TV is going to blast the UK theory then.
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Old 21-08-2011, 11:08
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I don't use Google on my computer, I block every single Google advert and Google cookies. i even block their analytics. I don't use any google services apart from now and again You tube and that is now and again and I block cookies from there as well.


I don't trust google on my computer, so why on earth would I trust them in my lounge?
Have you removed the Google keys from the REGISTRY ?.
you have to search for it in your computer.
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Old 21-08-2011, 16:16
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Have you removed the Google keys from the REGISTRY ?.
you have to search for it in your computer.
Why should there be Google keys in my registry since I have not installed anything from google?
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Old 21-08-2011, 21:04
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I don't use Google on my computer, I block every single Google advert and Google cookies. i even block their analytics. I don't use any google services apart from now and again You tube and that is now and again and I block cookies from there as well.
You're very niaeve. Google control most on-line advertising, search, analytics, a lot of services hosting, back end of site components.

In short, you're using Google products every day, you just don't realise it, not using any Google products in 2011 on the web is nigh-on impossible.
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Old 24-08-2011, 21:14
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You're very niaeve. Google control most on-line advertising, search, analytics, a lot of services hosting, back end of site components.

In short, you're using Google products every day, you just don't realise it, not using any Google products in 2011 on the web is nigh-on impossible.
That may be, but unless i am using google software then there should not be anything Google related in my registry.

i use software to block most of google and I did check my registry and there is nothing of Google in there.
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Old 26-08-2011, 12:45
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Within six months, reports the Telegraph and others.
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Old 26-08-2011, 13:16
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Within six months, reports the Telegraph and others.
Maybe Google think they will do better int he U.K than in the U.S.

I love this comment from the site.

I expect it will still be showing the same uneducated, un-inspiring, retarded sh1te as normal tele.

Time to read a book, take up an evening class, do the garden, do anything other than watch rubbish on tele

I will be surprised if it did come here in six months time since Google T.V is not doing very well in the states.
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Old 27-08-2011, 10:27
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http://wotsat.techradar.com/news/goo...aunch-26-08-11
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Old 27-08-2011, 11:27
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Erm, exactly the same information as I posted just two posts above yours
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Old 27-08-2011, 12:26
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Quite a good piece in The Guardian explaining what Google TV is.
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Old 27-08-2011, 14:12
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Erm, exactly the same information as I posted just two posts above yours
No need to sound funny over it mate, if you wanna be like that then I can state that your souce of info is different to mine!!!
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Old 27-08-2011, 18:49
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No need to sound funny over it mate, if you wanna be like that then I can state that your souce of info is different to mine!!!
But does it add any information not already in the report earlier referenced?

I could add another half dozen sources but it's pointless if they say the same thing (or less).
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:01
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As our unscrupulous, phone-hacking, money-grabbing, megalomaniac friends over at $ky say, it’s all about content. So far as I can see none of the IPTV providers provide the right content, especially in HD. OK BTV offer a bit, but not to the extent that it’s worth subscribing to.

I don’t believe IPTV will take off until providers improve their content. I’d be quite happy to download a HD film overnight, but a growing number of us now have the option of Infinity to speed things up (I’m quite happy with the 10-12mb I get with my standard package).

It’s very interesting what people like LG are doing with their latest Blu-Ray players.

Once Amazon or LoveFilm (strange they’re the same company isn’t it) get their act together I think it will take off.
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Old 03-09-2011, 17:15
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As our unscrupulous, phone-hacking, money-grabbing, megalomaniac friends over at $ky say, it’s all about content. So far as I can see none of the IPTV providers provide the right content, especially in HD. OK BTV offer a bit, but not to the extent that it’s worth subscribing to.

I don’t believe IPTV will take off until providers improve their content. I’d be quite happy to download a HD film overnight, but a growing number of us now have the option of Infinity to speed things up (I’m quite happy with the 10-12mb I get with my standard package).

It’s very interesting what people like LG are doing with their latest Blu-Ray players.

Once Amazon or LoveFilm (strange they’re the same company isn’t it) get their act together I think it will take off.
All good points. That may change during the next couple of year's thanks to the Competition Commission's ruling on Sky's strangehold over premium Hollywood content.

But that does assume that others in the market are either prepared or able to open their cheque books.

My hunch is only the major players such as Lovefilm (now owned by Amazon), Blinkbox (now owned by Tesco) and the expected UK launch of US company Netflix can / may. Aside from perhaps BT Vision, which has also demonstrated it has deep pockets, the rest will be restricted to niche content.
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