Just sounds like an average Robbie Williams song why on earth they had him back now I don't know. Robbie needs Take That now not the other way around. Who would of thought it 
Take That - The Flood. First play on radio today + link
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Originally Posted by simonk243:
“Just sounds like an average Robbie Williams song why on earth they had him back now I don't know. Robbie needs Take That now not the other way around. Who would of thought it ”
“Just sounds like an average Robbie Williams song why on earth they had him back now I don't know. Robbie needs Take That now not the other way around. Who would of thought it
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I'm not a huge fan of either Robbie or Take That but even I know who is the bigger star. TT may be bigger than Robbie in the UK but not in Europe. I think they are both using each other. Robbie because he doesn't really like touring & it is easier as part of a group & TT to raise their profile in outside the UK.
Originally Posted by Harry-Haddock:
“bit too much of Robbie in there for my liking but it's growing on me!
(still wish they hadnt took him back tho)”
“bit too much of Robbie in there for my liking but it's growing on me!
(still wish they hadnt took him back tho)”
oh me too, im not totally buying this reunion of Gary and Robbie I think its all about the cash
Im sooo mad take That took him back they were absolutly fantastic without him the circus was amazing and as much as I wouold die to see them again I just dont think I can with Robbie
The flood is ok but it's become the Robbie and Gary show. Am I the only one who thinks the others MUST be fed up....:yawn:
Originally Posted by Jazzygirl:
“The flood is ok but it's become the Robbie and Gary show. Am I the only one who thinks the others MUST be fed up....:yawn:”
“The flood is ok but it's become the Robbie and Gary show. Am I the only one who thinks the others MUST be fed up....:yawn:”
Totally agree. I am gutted. TT have always been special to me since they started and I was sad when RobbiE left and even worse when they split up. I followed their solo work and then TT came back and they were perfect. Then he comes back and it is all about him. His lead vocals and his show. Where the hell are the others?
Originally Posted by JohnBoy Walton:
“Totally agree. I am gutted. TT have always been special to me since they started and I was sad when RobbiE left and even worse when they split up. I followed their solo work and then TT came back and they were perfect. Then he comes back and it is all about him. His lead vocals and his show. Where the hell are the others?”
“Totally agree. I am gutted. TT have always been special to me since they started and I was sad when RobbiE left and even worse when they split up. I followed their solo work and then TT came back and they were perfect. Then he comes back and it is all about him. His lead vocals and his show. Where the hell are the others?”
Stop talking crap - this is just one song off the album and it happens to have Robbie as lead vocal. Just like "The Circus" had Mark as lead vocal on lots of the songs (Julie, Up all night, hold up a light.
Why dont you reserve judgement until you have heard the album. If Robbie is lead vocals on everything then you can moan.
Cretin.
Originally Posted by Jazzygirl:
“The flood is ok but it's become the Robbie and Gary show. Am I the only one who thinks the others MUST be fed up....:yawn:”
“The flood is ok but it's become the Robbie and Gary show. Am I the only one who thinks the others MUST be fed up....:yawn:”
Did you complain when Shine was realeased that take that had become the Mark Owen show?
Doubt it.
Actually I did....I don't really like Mark's vocals and thought it was overkill on Circus. I just think with Shame being out at the moment and then the flood being played and rob being the first voice you hear...well, i just feel a bit for the rest of them tbh
Originally Posted by Amazing:
“I'm not a huge fan of either Robbie or Take That but even I know who is the bigger star. TT may be bigger than Robbie in the UK but not in Europe. I think they are both using each other. Robbie because he doesn't really like touring & it is easier as part of a group & TT to raise their profile in outside the UK.”
“I'm not a huge fan of either Robbie or Take That but even I know who is the bigger star. TT may be bigger than Robbie in the UK but not in Europe. I think they are both using each other. Robbie because he doesn't really like touring & it is easier as part of a group & TT to raise their profile in outside the UK.”
Oh really didn't realise that about Europe.
I prefer there old stuff before them comeback anyway
Originally Posted by TheSlayer10:
“Whats happened is just what I expected would happen
It would become ALL about Robbie with the others becoming backing singers”
“Whats happened is just what I expected would happen
It would become ALL about Robbie with the others becoming backing singers”
I think it will be all Robbie leads from now on (singles anyway). I think it has to be ... he's competent and is the most famous. Its the way they want it. Hopefully this is their farewell as a group.
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“I think it will be all Robbie leads from now on (singles anyway). I think it has to be ... he's competent and is the most famous.”
“I think it will be all Robbie leads from now on (singles anyway). I think it has to be ... he's competent and is the most famous.”
Competent? I'd say Gary is far more competent. Robbie's voice is quite annoying actually. I hope there are not too many Robbie leads on the album! I'll give the album a chance though, The Flood is brilliant.
I don't think Robbie deserves to become the lead singer. He had the chance to rejoin them in 2005 and missed the boat then because he thought they were going to flop, so he really shouldn't hijack the band now. That wouldn't feel right.
Originally Posted by Insomniac05:
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I don't think Robbie deserves to become the lead singer. He had the chance to rejoin them in 2005 and missed the boat then because he thought they were going to flop, so he really shouldn't hijack the band now. That wouldn't feel right.”
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I don't think Robbie deserves to become the lead singer. He had the chance to rejoin them in 2005 and missed the boat then because he thought they were going to flop, so he really shouldn't hijack the band now. That wouldn't feel right.”
It's not about 'deserving' though is it? Its all about money (I did think for a brief few moments that the reunion was truly out of affection ... but I soon woke up and smelled the Nescafe) Robbie back with Take That means more money. Sure .... in the UK they're bigger than him at the moment but in Europe no-ones knows Take That ... so it is a mutual back-scratching exercise.
The song? Its OK ... nothing more nothing less (but a huge improvement on Shame).
It's not the Robbie & Gary show at all!! Shame is Robbie Williams featuring Gary Barlow. The song is on his Greatest Hits which is out on Monday.
I'm sure after 20 odd years in the music business Take That know what they're at. They picked the lead single to be Thr Flood & it just so happens that Robbie & Gary sing lead on it but I'm sure the band as a whole make these decisions together.
The timing of everything is too close I feel & that's why people seem to be getting in a heap over the Robbie & Gary show but it's really not like that at all.
Can't wait to hear the rest of the album & as a previous posted has already said, I'm sure all the boys get to sing lead on the different songs so relax peeps & enjoy!!!
I'm sure after 20 odd years in the music business Take That know what they're at. They picked the lead single to be Thr Flood & it just so happens that Robbie & Gary sing lead on it but I'm sure the band as a whole make these decisions together.
The timing of everything is too close I feel & that's why people seem to be getting in a heap over the Robbie & Gary show but it's really not like that at all.
Can't wait to hear the rest of the album & as a previous posted has already said, I'm sure all the boys get to sing lead on the different songs so relax peeps & enjoy!!!
Originally Posted by Footys:
“Stop talking crap - this is just one song off the album and it happens to have Robbie as lead vocal. Just like "The Circus" had Mark as lead vocal on lots of the songs (Julie, Up all night, hold up a light.
Why dont you reserve judgement until you have heard the album. If Robbie is lead vocals on everything then you can moan.
Cretin.”
“Stop talking crap - this is just one song off the album and it happens to have Robbie as lead vocal. Just like "The Circus" had Mark as lead vocal on lots of the songs (Julie, Up all night, hold up a light.
Why dont you reserve judgement until you have heard the album. If Robbie is lead vocals on everything then you can moan.
Cretin.”
Don't be an idiot.
I am entitled to complain if I want to. This song should be more of a collaboration. Yes, he is back and thats fine. But it is a new start for the others too. So more of a Garden style song or something else.
Originally Posted by JohnBoy Walton:
“Don't be an idiot.
I am entitled to complain if I want to. This song should be more of a collaboration. Yes, he is back and thats fine. But it is a new start for the others too. So more of a Garden style song or something else.”
“Don't be an idiot.
I am entitled to complain if I want to. This song should be more of a collaboration. Yes, he is back and thats fine. But it is a new start for the others too. So more of a Garden style song or something else.”
I appreciate what you say John about collaboration ... but The Garden was one of the worst songs on The Circus ... they tried too hard by having totally shared vocals to ... to the detriment of the song (which wasn't very good to begin with).
As much as I don't like Robbie Williams ... I'd rather have ONE lead vocal on a song than a mish-mash of all of them. The song itself is OK ... it ain't the bleeding show-stopper that every fan is hailing it to be. It's OK ... no more ... no less.
Originally Posted by sheila blige:
“I appreciate what you say John about collaboration ... but The Garden was one of the worst songs on The Circus ... they tried too hard by having totally shared vocals to ... to the detriment of the song (which wasn't very good to begin with).
As much as I don't like Robbie Williams ... I'd rather have ONE lead vocal on a song than a mish-mash of all of them. The song itself is OK ... it ain't the bleeding show-stopper that every fan is hailing it to be. It's OK ... no more ... no less.”
“I appreciate what you say John about collaboration ... but The Garden was one of the worst songs on The Circus ... they tried too hard by having totally shared vocals to ... to the detriment of the song (which wasn't very good to begin with).
As much as I don't like Robbie Williams ... I'd rather have ONE lead vocal on a song than a mish-mash of all of them. The song itself is OK ... it ain't the bleeding show-stopper that every fan is hailing it to be. It's OK ... no more ... no less.”
See, it is one of my favourites from the circus, I absolutely love it.
Although I totally understand and respect your opinion, unlike that angry little footys bitch just calling people a cretin because they don't agree with her. If more posts were like this then DS might be a nicer place.
I'm a HUGEEEEEEEEE Take That fan but a Robbie hater. I'm not happy about the reunion at all. I didn't really like the song at first but it's really really growing on me,love it now,I just turn down Robbie's parts,lol.
Can someone explain what all this anti-Robbie stuff is about? I'm genuintely confused, I think his vocals sound great and it's a fantastic song! I imagine the reason he has lead vocals is just because it's their first single together and that they'll probably get an equal share of vocals in other songs. IMO, The Flood is far better than anything TT did as a four-piece and I don't think that's a coincidence either. 
Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!
Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!
Originally Posted by sparkle_18:
“It sounds very familiar...like something else?”
“It sounds very familiar...like something else?”
The start of it reminds me of Boyzone's Different Beat.
Originally Posted by Electroflower:
“Can someone explain what all this anti-Robbie stuff is about? I'm genuintely confused, I think his vocals sound great and it's a fantastic song! I imagine the reason he has lead vocals is just because it's their first single together and that they'll probably get an equal share of vocals in other songs. IMO, The Flood is far better than anything TT did as a four-piece and I don't think that's a coincidence either. Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!”
“Can someone explain what all this anti-Robbie stuff is about? I'm genuintely confused, I think his vocals sound great and it's a fantastic song! I imagine the reason he has lead vocals is just because it's their first single together and that they'll probably get an equal share of vocals in other songs. IMO, The Flood is far better than anything TT did as a four-piece and I don't think that's a coincidence either.
Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!
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You answered your own question. You are a Robbie fan and like his style. I am a Take That fan and prefer their style. Simple really.
I am just glad that this is apparently a one album/tour thing and then everyone can be happy again.
I am not judging the album because I cannot imagine for one minute that there isn't at least 1 or two songs per person. But personally I wish this had been more of a collaboration between them all. Not anti Robbie, just a personal thing. I am hoping you can take that better than Footys did.
Originally Posted by Electroflower:
“Can someone explain what all this anti-Robbie stuff is about? I'm genuintely confused, I think his vocals sound great and it's a fantastic song! I imagine the reason he has lead vocals is just because it's their first single together and that they'll probably get an equal share of vocals in other songs. IMO, The Flood is far better than anything TT did as a four-piece and I don't think that's a coincidence either. Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!”
“Can someone explain what all this anti-Robbie stuff is about? I'm genuintely confused, I think his vocals sound great and it's a fantastic song! I imagine the reason he has lead vocals is just because it's their first single together and that they'll probably get an equal share of vocals in other songs. IMO, The Flood is far better than anything TT did as a four-piece and I don't think that's a coincidence either.
Particularly songs like Patience, which I thought was quite dull and uninspired really. It sounds like a Westlife song to me (and the video looked like that too.) I've always thought Robbie writes much funnier and more honest, original lyrics, less repetitive melodies, has experimented with different musical styles a lot more (eg. electro) and is just all round more interesting. I don't really get the thing where people don't believe he does anything himself, either. There is adequate evidence that he writes most of his lyrics and a reasonable amount of his music. Many talented songwriters always work with other musicians/producers like he does, too. It allows you to learn and bounce ideas off each other.Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing the whole album, particularly as it's produced by Stuart Price too!
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The Flood is an adequate song ... and a decent effort for five lads who have in reality 'only just got together'. It is NOT this brilliant opus that most fans (TT & Rob) are making it out to be. The reason it is being warmly welcomed is because it is a much better song than Shame (which ... if this is an example of Rob's writing ... just goes to show ... he ain't that great an addition to the band).
Although The Flood may be better than a lot of the album filler in Take That's 'return' material ... no way on God's Green Earth is it better than ANY of the singles (with the exception of I'd Wait For Life and possibly Greatest Day). Patience, Shine, Said It All, Up All Night and Rule The World are all far better. I'm not too bothered about Rob being back ... but I hope the album is better than The Flood suggests it may be. Rob's solo return stuff from RKTVS - has hardly set the music world alight ... apart from one song (YKM) it was a very, very mediocre affair. For me ... they've musically taken a step back to please the 'girlie' fans they had at the beginning. They'll probably lose the more mature fans they gained this time. However ... for all us mature Take That fans there will be Robbie fans such as yourself - tolerating the other four - to replace us ... so the guys will not lose out financially.
As I firmly believe that this is a Farewell statement - to take place over the next 18 months - good luck to them. They're happy (and their bank managers even more so).
By the way ... have listened to Little Boots' Remedy ... and the chorus of The Flood does sound very, very similar. A shame really ... as the chorus is the only bit I like ... the verses are very turgid and just don't flow.
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