Oh - so having an opinion about someone in the public eye who's appearing on a television programme amounts to 'bullying' does it? 'Bullying' is an extremely emotive word to use and it's wholly inappropriate here.

What's more, all the reasons you cite for people not liking Ann on SCD are wrong. Why are you putting words in other people's mouths and accusing them of bullying? That says more about you than it does about anyone else - and shows very little respect for their opinions.

I dislike Ann for none of the reasons you cite. I dislike her because she is lazy, rude, arrogant and obsessed with herself - all traits we have seen her display on SCD, on ITT and in the associated media coverage.

Strange then that Ann last week spoke at an anti-abortion meeting where she was billed as 'Strictly sensation'.

So, if Ann herself doesn't separate her SCD activities from her political views, why should anyone else?

She comes across as brusque I agree and if you don't find her funny then fair enough. I find her hilarious which is also fair enough but I really can't understand all this "hate" for her.. It's not necessary.

Who is 'hating' Ann? Or is that N Dubz speak?

I doubt that millie3 did not understand your last post, she was merely questioning why she should have to seperate Ann from her politics. We are all free to choose our own criteria for whom we do and don't vote for.

I wouldnt know anything about her politics nor care much either , we have our own eejits here .
But I dislike her dancing , her attitude , her smugness, her lack of trying and her disregared for the show she signed for and is getting paid for , she has spoiled it for me and for many I know and I was going to buy tickets for the tour , but now wont as I couldnt bare to watch her .

Widdy is there for exactly the same reasons as everyone else - money and publicity.

I dislike Ann for many reasons but if I had been offered the chance to really learn to dance with a highly regarded professional for many weeks AND they were going to PAY me to do it! Then I would have jumped at the chance!
I know that I would have taken that opportunity by the horns and run with it. It is an opportunity of a lifetime (you don't get asked again)
She has chosen to waste her time (and mine, and Anton’s) and we, the taxpayer, are paying her wages. (as we were when she was a horrid MP)
She is a disgrace!
Simples

Licence fee payer, i'm sure that's what you meant.

As for the rest of your post I agree with every word

Yes sorry - you are correct. I had one of those stupid pop up messages stuck on my computer screen so I couldn't read what I had written.
Anyway I pay both so it amounts to the same thing. We pay her wages -currently. Can you get any money back??

Don't worry, it's the kind of slip i'm always making.

My hubby's a manager for a large retail firm and he was saying the other day that if one of his members of staff showed the kind of laziness, apathy and general disrespect for the job that Ann displays to SCD, they would have been fired within a week.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

In that case i'll refer you to this post


If you support Ann then that's fine, that is your right, but it is unfair to accuse those who do not share your opinions on her of bullying.

On reflection, i'm still inclined to agree with Pippa. I don't wish to get into the semantics, suffice to say that, as far as I am concerned, the behaviour of certain posters on here says as much about themselves as their words do about Ann Widdicombe.

To be honest, I'm getting bored of it all now. I hope Ann at least retains some fond memories of her SCD experience this year. My experience of this forum 2010 has been unpleasant.

Honestly, you look away from this forum for a few hours and come back to find yourself misquoted, misinterpreted and insulted. Tut tut. I am peeved. For the record, I said:


to which the reply came:


Bless you, fellow forumites, for leaping into the fray and pointing out that 'most of us' does not mean 'all of us' - your command of the English language is exemplary. Alas, it fell on deaf ears:


Thank you, Pippa, for speaking for me, but I am perfectly capable of speaking for myself; might I therefore state categorically that had I meant to say 'all of us' I would have done so. I said 'most of us' because, you know, that is what I meant.

I applaud your valiant defence of Miss Widdecombe; I am actually impressed when people have the courage of their convictions and are not afraid to express them, even when those views might not be, erm, shall we say, the majority position. But it doesn't help to defend somebody if you attack a critic on totally incorrect grounds. I do not dislike her because she is opinionated, overweight or of a certain age, nor do I dislike her because she cannot dance.

I do, however, dislike the nature of her opinions and her refusal to learn to dance, which are quite different things.

I too have just come back to the PC and see some posters have put me on "ignore". I don't care if they want to do that I'm not changing my opinion to suit the majority on here.

She is learning to dance albeit at a very slow rate and as I've said before her political views just don't come into it.

I hope we see her in the final coz I find her amusing.

I don't think anybody's expecting you to change your opinion. I'd guess it's the manner of your posting that people don't like.

Well, I could say exactly the same thing about them and I believe some posters on here are also bullies. I'm sorry if some people find me offensive as an Ann supporter but that is that.

Good luck to AW...I have nothing else to say on the subject.

I don't think it's as an Ann supporter that people find your posts offensive.

Now this is what really interests me.

I've read - and I've heard - that viewers are voting for Ann because she amuses them. I'm a great fan of comedy, but I haven't managed to raise so much as a smile watching Ann dance.

If she truly amuses you, can you please explain - precisely - what it is that makes you laugh??

Its a shame that has been your experience here, and I do understand why you say that.