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Why I don't like Ann
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Monkseal
11-10-2010
Can I have a go? It's like her entering a cookery competition, being asked to cook a Beef Wellington, making it with lime jelly instead of beef, and then expecting everyone to take it seriously as an alternative take on the dish. She's going against the fundamentals of what she's being asked to do, because she can't handle it.

Of course she has it in her contract that she doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to. I would imagine none of them are going to be forced to do anything they're uncomfortable with. It's just if they started openly laying down demands and shaping choreography in the way Ann is, they'd be identified as a diva. Kelly Brook pushing Brendan to do the choreography she wanted practically led to cries of "BURN THE WITCH!" and all she wanted to do was have a little go with the cape.
rita1
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Well, if she said "I know this is not real salsa, but I'm not doing real salsa", that might be - slightly - better.

But her "Oh, it's OK, one can dance salsa perfectly without XYZ" attitude gets right up my nose.

She absolutely does not have a right to an opinion as to what is valid salsa, and what isn't.”

Yes - I've noticed that it's annoying you. It isn't annoying everyone though. It isn't annoying those who voted in sufficient numbers to keep her out of the bottom 2 for instance.
kittles
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by rita1:
“Yes - I've noticed that it's annoying you. It isn't annoying everyone though. It isn't annoying those who voted in sufficient numbers to keep her out of the bottom 2 for instance.”

well yes of course at the end of the day the GBP can vote for whom ever they like even if said contestant just comes out and farts to the music

but I'm with the DJ - you can't just say something is a salsa for example when it demonstrates absolutely none of the atributes that define a salsa (though having said that, virtually none of the so called salsas on saturday warranted that description but that's whole other thread)
martyboy
11-10-2010
Ann's political stereotype seems to me to be that of the professional 'whinger'. Everyone else in the world is doing something wrong, except her.

She complains that the youth of Britain needs a kick up the backside. If the cap fits, wear it.

I was watching the Salsa in anticipation of Craig saying something about a hippopotamus on acid.

But it wasn't even that, was it.
Ignazio
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by rita1:
“Yes - I've noticed that it's annoying you. It isn't annoying everyone though. It isn't annoying those who voted in sufficient numbers to keep her out of the bottom 2 for instance.”

I appreciate your point - as I've said elsewhere, for as long as she has public support she has every right to stay in.

However this is a discussion forum and those who feel that her demands go beyond reasonable are perfectly at liberty to say so.
rossyrahrah
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by kittles:
“well yes of course at the end of the day the GBP can vote for whom ever they like even if said contestant just comes out and farts to the music”

Is that a sneak preview of next week's routine?
soulmate61
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by rossyrahrah:
“Is that a sneak preview of next week's routine?”

And a significant improvement on last week. The wind of change.
winenroses
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Christ, now I've got an image of Anton and Ann doing the AT. ”

Anton does not do sweaty, though Ann might.
A gaucho in a shirt and tie with a cowboy hat, and Ann could be the butch one?
Agent Krycek
11-10-2010
Tonight's ITT sealed the deal for me - 'I just won't move my hips at all'. FFS Ann, my mum is well into her 80s, has bad hips and a dodgy knee and also a devout Roman Catholic and I watched her give it more the Ann has managed on the dance floor at a recent family do, and she was moving her, dodgy, hips (mind you, she had been at the sherry before hand )
dancingbearbear
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Can I have a go? It's like her entering a cookery competition, being asked to cook a Beef Wellington, making it with lime jelly instead of beef, and then expecting everyone to take it seriously as an alternative take on the dish. She's going against the fundamentals of what she's being asked to do, because she can't handle it.”

That's exactly it.

I can't fathom what on earth possessed her to agree to appear on the show, as she is so fundamentally unwilling to participate. Surely she's not that desperate for the cash?
mimi dlc
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Agent Krycek:
“Tonight's ITT sealed the deal for me - 'I just won't move my hips at all'. FFS Ann, my mum is well into her 80s, has bad hips and a dodgy knee and also a devout Roman Catholic and I watched her give it more the Ann has managed on the dance floor at a recent family do, and she was moving her, dodgy, hips (mind you, she had been at the sherry before hand )”

Maybe sherry would help Ann
katmobile
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Starpuss:
“All things I said last year and was shouted down for. Even to the point when someone said they were going to vote an extra time each time I posted a negative comment about Chris Hollins Scary times!

I do think it should be about both but last year tipped the scales from any grasp on dance ability into farce. No turning back now....we will just have to relax and enjoy the ride ”

I have this arguement with my mum but just because someone isn't the 'best' dancer doesn't mean that they are rubbish or it's a farce of they win - comparing Chris Hollins to Widdy is insulting.
x-cherry-x
11-10-2010
I agree with the OP and would like to add the BBC are trying too hard to make her the John Sargeant type because if I remember correctly, she was given the role I suppose, before she had even danced!

She is funny though but for me, I think it would be better if she tried harder.
Bonnie96
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by tykechick:
“I dont find Ann's comments funny about how awful she is etc. Im aware shes trying to expand on the humour she thinks her routines cause but some contestants and their partners take this show seriously. Ann didnt seem bothered either when Goldie went on Sunday- I just dont think people warm to her and thats a big aspect of strictly.”

The fact that she is still in the show having had the lowest score shows that they have - at least more than Peter and loads more than Goldie considering he was equal fifth on the leaderboard.
Watching the clip of her dance on youtube, many of the contestants were watching and applauding from Tess' Tower and also gave a great reception to her when she got back so I think they have warmed to her too.
Starpuss
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“I have this arguement with my mum but just because someone isn't the 'best' dancer doesn't mean that they are rubbish or it's a farce of they win - comparing Chris Hollins to Widdy is insulting.”

Not to me it isn't. I loathed his gurney face and rubbish dancing. I almost stopped watching for good after last year but decided I would not let the odious little man stop me watching a show I have stuck with since the very start. And very glad I am I did too Ann is my revenge mwahahahaha
Abbasolutely 40
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Starpuss:
“Not to me it isn't. I loathed his gurney face and rubbish dancing. I almost stopped watching for good after last year but decided I would not let the odious little man stop me watching a show I have stuck with since the very start. And very glad I am I did too Ann is my revenge mwahahahaha”

In all fairness you are entitled to think what you like , I am swimming against the tide in my dislike of Pamela this year .
But I will admit she can dance and I think even you have to admit Chris danced better than Ann !
You may enjoy it less cos you dont like him , but he did do a better job.
Starpuss
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Abbasolutely 40:
“In all fairness you are entitled to think what you like , I am swimming against the tide in my dislike of Pamela this year .
But I will admit she can dance and I think even you have to admit Chris danced better than Ann !
You may enjoy it less cos you dont like him , but he did do a better job.”

But, as I was told endlessly last year by the fans of the vomit inducingly named Team Cola (there were only 2 of the ffs...that is not a team!) it's all about the entertainment

I find Ann far more entertaining than Hollins.
Helena Handcart
11-10-2010
Ann Widdecombe is well-known for her strict moral and religious views (however distasteful you find them). Inviting her to be in a dancing competition is like asking Heather Mills to be in a cookery competition. You know that you won't get beef wellington from Heather and you also know that you won't get sexy salsa from Ann. That's the deal and if you don't like vegan wellington or virgin salsa then the blame lies with the producers.

There are plenty of good reasons to dislike Ann Widdecombe but I really don't think that this is one of them.
perdiedumpling
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Helena Handcart:
“Ann Widdecombe is well-known for her strict moral and religious views (however distasteful you find them). Inviting her to be in a dancing competition is like asking Heather Mills to be in a cookery competition. You know that you won't get beef wellington from Heather and you also know that you won't get sexy salsa from Ann. That's the deal and if you don't like vegan wellington or virgin salsa then the blame lies with the producers.

There are plenty of good reasons to dislike Ann Widdecombe but I really don't think that this is one of them.”

Yes, but I'm sure Heather Mills will try and cook something. It's debatable whether Ann tried to dance.
lynxmale
11-10-2010
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Kelly Brook pushing Brendan to do the choreography she wanted practically led to cries of "BURN THE WITCH!" and all she wanted to do was have a little go with the cape.”

? You mean she wanted to do a Dracula and suck Brendan? I thought we had to wait for Lisa & Brendan's showdance for delusions of Dracula.

Originally Posted by Helena Handcart:
“Ann Widdecombe is well-known for her strict moral and religious views (however distasteful you find them). Inviting her to be in a dancing competition is like asking Heather Mills to be in a cookery competition. You know that you won't get beef wellington from Heather”

I don't know what it would take for gaga Mills to surprise me. I imagine her hollow leg is stuffed with two feet of salami.
tonydancer
12-10-2010
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“Maybe sherry would help Ann”

Wouldn't the best thing be to address this comment to Anton via his website?
Mrs Fosdyke
12-10-2010
Originally Posted by dancingbearbear:
“That's exactly it.

I can't fathom what on earth possessed her to agree to appear on the show, as she is so fundamentally unwilling to participate. Surely she's not that desperate for the cash?”

She was hoping a little of the John Sergeant "magic" would rub off on to her, and help her sell her books.

I can't stand the sycophantic laughter every time she makes what she considers to be a joke, rather like the fawning attitude every time prince Charles opens his mouth.
Cassie
12-10-2010
Having my 10 pence worth. She apparently signed up to have fun. Ok but as a license payer that means her fee's are paid partly by me. Now the show is about dancing and learning to dance. She is doing neither. Her fun isn't amusing to all and she isn't fulfilling her promise to dance, so why would anyone want to vote to keep her in? She can be a guest on Claudia's show and have a verbal with Craig if this is the reason to vote for her. Why bother with her when she doesn't try at all.
soulmate61
12-10-2010
Originally Posted by Cassie:
“she isn't fulfilling her promise to dance,”

House of Commons tactic number 3(B) -- to strike first in verbal sparring with a subdued Craig and distract paying customers.
DavidJames
12-10-2010
Originally Posted by kittles:
“well yes of course at the end of the day the GBP can vote for whom ever they like even if said contestant just comes out and farts to the music”

Christ, don't give them ideas, OK?

Originally Posted by kittles:
“but I'm with the DJ - you can't just say something is a salsa for example when it demonstrates absolutely none of the atributes that define a salsa (though having said that, virtually none of the so called salsas on saturday warranted that description but that's whole other thread)”

Well, yeah, and an Anton salsa was never going to be exactly scintillating anyway - what bits I did recognise looked simply like (a really really bad) chacha.

I admit, had I been Anton, I'd have failed also. The requirements of salsa as a dance (spinning, fast movements, and so on) were never going to work with Ann.

And if she insisted on limited touching, and she has no concept of the rhythm, how can she be led? Telepathy?

Ann, let me explain it to you in small words: the reason why ballroom is easier for you is because you're in more contact with your partner. Your partner is called the leader. He leads you. Physically. The more physical contact, the easier it is to lead you.

Got that?
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