Was it obvious something was wrong with Jeff?
TNA Wrestling (US Pace, Un-Tagged Spoilers)
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A truly terrible PPV. I was doing other things so wasnt watching that attentively but it looked bad and the main event just made it terrible.
Hardy should be fired now, he's adding nothing to the company and only heaping crap on it.
Hardy should be fired now, he's adding nothing to the company and only heaping crap on it.
Watch the pinfall again, definitely looks as if Jeff is trying to kick out and Sting holds him down.
Hardy is a disgrace, but TNA deserve their fair share of the blame for letting him even go down to the ring. Completely unacceptable. I can only imagine what the rest of the locker room must be thinking.
Hardy is a disgrace, but TNA deserve their fair share of the blame for letting him even go down to the ring. Completely unacceptable. I can only imagine what the rest of the locker room must be thinking.
What were they thinking letting Jeff go out in that condition
Didn't they notice backstage how out of his mind on whatever he had taken he was because it was certainly obvious when he was actually in the ring he was as high as a kite
And in the process could have injured himself and/or Sting
Dixie can't stick her head in the sand and pretend this isn't happening, if this was the wake up call TNA needed to implement an anti drug and alcohol policy then this was it.
It can't be ignored
Jeff needs help and fast before he becomes a statistic on a very morbid list
Didn't they notice backstage how out of his mind on whatever he had taken he was because it was certainly obvious when he was actually in the ring he was as high as a kite
And in the process could have injured himself and/or Sting
Dixie can't stick her head in the sand and pretend this isn't happening, if this was the wake up call TNA needed to implement an anti drug and alcohol policy then this was it.
It can't be ignored
Jeff needs help and fast before he becomes a statistic on a very morbid list
For those that are interested;
Re; the recent TNA debacle last night, here is former WWE star Val Venis giving some brief words on it and especially JeffHardy. (They're best friends y'knowww )
http://bambuser.com/v/1497997
Re; the recent TNA debacle last night, here is former WWE star Val Venis giving some brief words on it and especially JeffHardy. (They're best friends y'knowww )
http://bambuser.com/v/1497997
From Wrestling Observer.com
Quote:
“Jeff Hardy will not be appearing at the TNA TV tapings tonight or tomorrow night stemming from whatever it was that happened at last night's PPV.
Hardy and Sting's main event lasted 1:28 with Sting pinning Hardy. Hardy, very subtly, acted as if he was surprised by the finish and attempted to kick out but Sting held him down and the ref counted three. Given the people involved in TNA creative, a worked shoot to get attention has to always be considered a possibility, particularly since the last time this situation legitimately occurred, the plan at first was to change the main event. In fact, both Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo have long track records of this type of thing.
Reports from the show were that Hardy was in no condition to wrestle and that they decided to cut the match short.
If that is the case, the onus should be on TNA because it is not like the show a few months back when Hardy was nearly stripped of the title and they had planned to change the main event, only to have the decision changed back, wasn't a warning sign. One has to seriously question management for not calling an audible on the main event, particularly since the show was already in the toilet by that point.
If it is an attempt at an elaborately worked angle, thinking the fan outrage leads to more attention to the promotion, it is what it is, a creative decision. In fact, either way, what happened at the end was a creative decision by management, because there are plenty of alternative things that could have been done what would have made it at least a slightly better show.
Hardy's next court date is Wednesday. Both his lawyer and Moore County prosecutors said a plea bargain deal had been reached months ago, but one side or both pulled out and the case was continued for about the dozenth time until Wednesday.”
“Jeff Hardy will not be appearing at the TNA TV tapings tonight or tomorrow night stemming from whatever it was that happened at last night's PPV.
Hardy and Sting's main event lasted 1:28 with Sting pinning Hardy. Hardy, very subtly, acted as if he was surprised by the finish and attempted to kick out but Sting held him down and the ref counted three. Given the people involved in TNA creative, a worked shoot to get attention has to always be considered a possibility, particularly since the last time this situation legitimately occurred, the plan at first was to change the main event. In fact, both Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo have long track records of this type of thing.
Reports from the show were that Hardy was in no condition to wrestle and that they decided to cut the match short.
If that is the case, the onus should be on TNA because it is not like the show a few months back when Hardy was nearly stripped of the title and they had planned to change the main event, only to have the decision changed back, wasn't a warning sign. One has to seriously question management for not calling an audible on the main event, particularly since the show was already in the toilet by that point.
If it is an attempt at an elaborately worked angle, thinking the fan outrage leads to more attention to the promotion, it is what it is, a creative decision. In fact, either way, what happened at the end was a creative decision by management, because there are plenty of alternative things that could have been done what would have made it at least a slightly better show.
Hardy's next court date is Wednesday. Both his lawyer and Moore County prosecutors said a plea bargain deal had been reached months ago, but one side or both pulled out and the case was continued for about the dozenth time until Wednesday.”
It maybe an angle because this is TNA and if it got 'em trending on twitter- I dunno if it did- then that's a success in their eyes. Hey why should anyone but Bob Carter care if TNA loses money? Shame for the peeps who actually would like a real non crap alternative to WWE though.
If it isn't an angle then Hardy should be fired. You can say what you want about WWE, but at least they realize performance related pay is a good idea in rasslin'. Giving the "Carolina Crew" regular pay and expecting good performances out of them anyway clearly will not work.
If it isn't an angle then Hardy should be fired. You can say what you want about WWE, but at least they realize performance related pay is a good idea in rasslin'. Giving the "Carolina Crew" regular pay and expecting good performances out of them anyway clearly will not work.
New belt at the tapings apparently. Back to a more normal style world title belt.
Jeff hopefully will get rehabbed or fired - another jake roberts in the making.
Sting was awesome last night in my opinion - love how he stiffed Hardy a couple of times(pulling hair to get in the scorpion death drop!). No way little Jeff could live with an ex body builder like Sting(even at 51)......
Jeff hopefully will get rehabbed or fired - another jake roberts in the making.
Sting was awesome last night in my opinion - love how he stiffed Hardy a couple of times(pulling hair to get in the scorpion death drop!). No way little Jeff could live with an ex body builder like Sting(even at 51)......
PWTorch reporting Hardy had to be carried from outside the building to the entrance ramp before the match, and that uncle Eric told Sting to pin him immediately when he was in the ring before the "match".
I've not seen it yet so can't say too much because I don't know what context it was used in but I'm surprised that Hogan is said to of described things as like a "tsunami".
Not really in the best taste at the moment was it?
Not really in the best taste at the moment was it?
Have to say I have a lot of respect for Sting for finishing it so fast, true professional. I've only seen the main event, waiting to watch the PPV on Challenge. But it was obvious the moment he stepped out that Jeff wasn't right and its sad to see.
My friends have said it was a average PPV with some good matches like Beer Money/Ink Inc, the X-Division match and Matt/AJ. Its sad that if those matches are good that it'll all totally be overshadowed by Jeffs actions.
I know its difficult to believe that TNA didn't have a back up plan or that they only knew of Jeffs condition minutes before the match but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that count right now. But they should have done SOMETHING with Sting after pinning Jeff, anything just for the paying fans. Even if it sucked it would have been something.
As for Hulks comments at the taping he's apparantly apologised and its going to be edited out.
My friends have said it was a average PPV with some good matches like Beer Money/Ink Inc, the X-Division match and Matt/AJ. Its sad that if those matches are good that it'll all totally be overshadowed by Jeffs actions.
I know its difficult to believe that TNA didn't have a back up plan or that they only knew of Jeffs condition minutes before the match but I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that count right now. But they should have done SOMETHING with Sting after pinning Jeff, anything just for the paying fans. Even if it sucked it would have been something.
As for Hulks comments at the taping he's apparantly apologised and its going to be edited out.
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The new UFCesque Title Belt
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The new UFCesque Title Belt
In other news Miss Tessmacher and Daffney have been released. Daffney is to launch a Workers compensation claim against TNA.
F**k you TNA for treating Daff like s***.
F**k you TNA for treating Daff like s***.
Like the new title belt, it's about time they got rid of Jeff's garbage belt.
I can't believe where TNA has been going recently to be honest. Only the other night I looked at the 3-3-11 Impact and said to my (disinterested) girlfriend how this is the company that has all the talent and so many fans hoping and pleading for them to use it....only to repeatedly cock it up with terrible booking. I really don't get why they decided to put the belt back on Sting when the whole fact of the IWC going mad about Sting being in WWE potentially was just that....Sting in WWE with fresh dream matches, not Sting in TNA that we've seen for years on end and really doesn't interest many people.
To be honest, I don't dislike Sting, I just think his time has come and long gone. Sure I'd love to have seen him in some of those dream WWE matches, but his time in the main events and especially the title scene should have passed by now. He's a great guy to have around but let's face it, he just can't go much anymore unless someone carries him.
So straight away I can't believe that TNA would take someone with the popularity of Jeff Hardy and have him look like he's crapping his pants at the return of 51yr old Sting. Then Hardy loses to Sting which surely kills all credibility he had as a good heel champion. Seriously, if your young guy that's hugely popular can't beat an over the hill 51yr old then how is anyone meant to buy him as a credible champ? Then just to top things off, Hardy has to screw up yet again and we all get that ridiculous ending to the PPV: Wow.
I actually like Jeff Hardy as a wrestler and character, but it's becoming impossible to defend him nowadays. You could see the look on Sting's face after he pinned him and was on the ramp and I couldn't help but wonder if he thinks what is he going back to now. Hardy needs a massive rocket up his ass, something you would think this court case would have given him but I guess TNA's invisible drug policy makes it too easy on him to carry on.
I still want to love TNA, I still think they have some amazing names on their roster, but every time I think they can't look any more ridiculous they manage to go and top it again!
I can't believe where TNA has been going recently to be honest. Only the other night I looked at the 3-3-11 Impact and said to my (disinterested) girlfriend how this is the company that has all the talent and so many fans hoping and pleading for them to use it....only to repeatedly cock it up with terrible booking. I really don't get why they decided to put the belt back on Sting when the whole fact of the IWC going mad about Sting being in WWE potentially was just that....Sting in WWE with fresh dream matches, not Sting in TNA that we've seen for years on end and really doesn't interest many people.
To be honest, I don't dislike Sting, I just think his time has come and long gone. Sure I'd love to have seen him in some of those dream WWE matches, but his time in the main events and especially the title scene should have passed by now. He's a great guy to have around but let's face it, he just can't go much anymore unless someone carries him.
So straight away I can't believe that TNA would take someone with the popularity of Jeff Hardy and have him look like he's crapping his pants at the return of 51yr old Sting. Then Hardy loses to Sting which surely kills all credibility he had as a good heel champion. Seriously, if your young guy that's hugely popular can't beat an over the hill 51yr old then how is anyone meant to buy him as a credible champ? Then just to top things off, Hardy has to screw up yet again and we all get that ridiculous ending to the PPV: Wow.
I actually like Jeff Hardy as a wrestler and character, but it's becoming impossible to defend him nowadays. You could see the look on Sting's face after he pinned him and was on the ramp and I couldn't help but wonder if he thinks what is he going back to now. Hardy needs a massive rocket up his ass, something you would think this court case would have given him but I guess TNA's invisible drug policy makes it too easy on him to carry on.
I still want to love TNA, I still think they have some amazing names on their roster, but every time I think they can't look any more ridiculous they manage to go and top it again!
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Originally Posted by MFKR78:
“Like the new title belt, it's about time they got rid of Jeff's garbage belt.
I can't believe where TNA has been going recently to be honest. Only the other night I looked at the 3-3-11 Impact and said to my (disinterested) girlfriend how this is the company that has all the talent and so many fans hoping and pleading for them to use it....only to repeatedly cock it up with terrible booking. I really don't get why they decided to put the belt back on Sting when the whole fact of the IWC going mad about Sting being in WWE potentially was just that....Sting in WWE with fresh dream matches, not Sting in TNA that we've seen for years on end and really doesn't interest many people.
To be honest, I don't dislike Sting, I just think his time has come and long gone. Sure I'd love to have seen him in some of those dream WWE matches, but his time in the main events and especially the title scene should have passed by now. He's a great guy to have around but let's face it, he just can't go much anymore unless someone carries him.
So straight away I can't believe that TNA would take someone with the popularity of Jeff Hardy and have him look like he's crapping his pants at the return of 51yr old Sting. Then Hardy loses to Sting which surely kills all credibility he had as a good heel champion. Seriously, if your young guy that's hugely popular can't beat an over the hill 51yr old then how is anyone meant to buy him as a credible champ? Then just to top things off, Hardy has to screw up yet again and we all get that ridiculous ending to the PPV: Wow.
I actually like Jeff Hardy as a wrestler and character, but it's becoming impossible to defend him nowadays. You could see the look on Sting's face after he pinned him and was on the ramp and I couldn't help but wonder if he thinks what is he going back to now. Hardy needs a massive rocket up his ass, something you would think this court case would have given him but I guess TNA's invisible drug policy makes it too easy on him to carry on.
I still want to love TNA, I still think they have some amazing names on their roster, but every time I think they can't look any more ridiculous they manage to go and top it again!”
“Like the new title belt, it's about time they got rid of Jeff's garbage belt.
I can't believe where TNA has been going recently to be honest. Only the other night I looked at the 3-3-11 Impact and said to my (disinterested) girlfriend how this is the company that has all the talent and so many fans hoping and pleading for them to use it....only to repeatedly cock it up with terrible booking. I really don't get why they decided to put the belt back on Sting when the whole fact of the IWC going mad about Sting being in WWE potentially was just that....Sting in WWE with fresh dream matches, not Sting in TNA that we've seen for years on end and really doesn't interest many people.
To be honest, I don't dislike Sting, I just think his time has come and long gone. Sure I'd love to have seen him in some of those dream WWE matches, but his time in the main events and especially the title scene should have passed by now. He's a great guy to have around but let's face it, he just can't go much anymore unless someone carries him.
So straight away I can't believe that TNA would take someone with the popularity of Jeff Hardy and have him look like he's crapping his pants at the return of 51yr old Sting. Then Hardy loses to Sting which surely kills all credibility he had as a good heel champion. Seriously, if your young guy that's hugely popular can't beat an over the hill 51yr old then how is anyone meant to buy him as a credible champ? Then just to top things off, Hardy has to screw up yet again and we all get that ridiculous ending to the PPV: Wow.
I actually like Jeff Hardy as a wrestler and character, but it's becoming impossible to defend him nowadays. You could see the look on Sting's face after he pinned him and was on the ramp and I couldn't help but wonder if he thinks what is he going back to now. Hardy needs a massive rocket up his ass, something you would think this court case would have given him but I guess TNA's invisible drug policy makes it too easy on him to carry on.
I still want to love TNA, I still think they have some amazing names on their roster, but every time I think they can't look any more ridiculous they manage to go and top it again!”
Agree with everything youve said there.
I want to love TNA I really do but they just keep finding so many ways to cock things up its very hard to have too much interest.
How a company with such talent cant be better than they are amazes me it really does.
I just took a look at some of the spoilers for the new Impacts.
RVD mentions Russo during a promo. Not Russo as an on air character again....
RVD mentions Russo during a promo. Not Russo as an on air character again....
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“I just took a look at some of the spoilers for the new Impacts.
RVD mentions Russo during a promo. Not Russo as an on air character again....”
“I just took a look at some of the spoilers for the new Impacts.
RVD mentions Russo during a promo. Not Russo as an on air character again....”
Yeah, I got told about that. But apparently other sets of spoilers don't mention it
To be fair I always thought he was surprisngly good at playing an onscreen character. His foul mouthed, slimy New Yorker character had more mileage IMO.
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“If you like wrestling, this isn't the show for you.”
“If you like wrestling, this isn't the show for you.”
Is that the new tagline for Impact?
Originally Posted by Ghost World:
“Is that the new tagline for Impact?”
“Is that the new tagline for Impact?”
Well it could be.
It is supposedly a terrible show. Even some of the big TNA fans that I know have been slating it.
Under 10 minutes? Are you serious???!!!
What is this now, a competition to see how little wrestling they can get on a 2 hour show?
You can really see why they changed from "We are Wrestling"
What is this now, a competition to see how little wrestling they can get on a 2 hour show?
You can really see why they changed from "We are Wrestling"
Originally Posted by MFKR78:
“Under 10 minutes? Are you serious???!!!
What is this now, a competition to see how little wrestling they can get on a 2 hour show?
You can really see why they changed from "We are Wrestling"”
“Under 10 minutes? Are you serious???!!!
What is this now, a competition to see how little wrestling they can get on a 2 hour show?
You can really see why they changed from "We are Wrestling"”
I don't know how accurate these times are, but on the Wrestling Observer messageboard, one of the guys timed it:
Rayne vs. Flash - 16.3 seconds
TV Title match - 1:45.3
6 person Trios match - 1:20.8
Main Event - 5:52.5
Total: 9:14.9
Reading about the poor working conditions in televised wrestling companies, I started to think about why the wrestlers or should I say TV actors/physical theatre performers aren't a member of something like S.A.G (Screen Actor's Guild), American Equity etc. or one of the lesser offshoots. These organisations guarantee decent working conditions and benefits from producers (e.g McMahon and Carter). Less than 10 min of wrestling puts Impact purely under the cheap soap opera section of television!
Originally Posted by jamespondo:
“Reading about the poor working conditions in televised wrestling companies, I started to think about why the wrestlers or should I say TV actors/physical theatre performers aren't a member of something like S.A.G (Screen Actor's Guild), American Equity etc. or one of the lesser offshoots. These organisations guarantee decent working conditions and benefits from producers (e.g McMahon and Carter). Less than 10 min of wrestling puts Impact purely under the cheap soap opera section of television!”
“Reading about the poor working conditions in televised wrestling companies, I started to think about why the wrestlers or should I say TV actors/physical theatre performers aren't a member of something like S.A.G (Screen Actor's Guild), American Equity etc. or one of the lesser offshoots. These organisations guarantee decent working conditions and benefits from producers (e.g McMahon and Carter). Less than 10 min of wrestling puts Impact purely under the cheap soap opera section of television!”
Unionised wrestlers never happened. Due to the nature of the business, no wrestler would stand up to the promoters due to the fear of being blackballed by the promoter and having your spot giving to someone else.
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