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Old 12-10-2010, 20:36
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I was just reading Q for this month and have come across the article for Radio1's all important playlist...

Its says in this that the head of music on radio one (George Ergatoudis) made a decision to make Radio1 "Distinct by not playing ~ Alexandra Burke, etc" he goes on to say that "songs by these artists are less relevant for our audience"

I am confused by this; as an avid Radio1 listener i know that there playlist tends to side more to pop/rnb than any other genre. So i just dont get why Alex doesnt fit in here!!

Is there some underlying reason that i've missed?
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:37
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furthermore, ive tweeted this and some people seem to think its something to do with some rant she may or may not have made...
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:42
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she should be banned from making music
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:44
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WTF!!! This makes no sense, how does she 'not appeal to the listeners' when R1 happily playlist similair artists:
Talay Riley
Mike Posner
Rihanna
Alexis Jordan
Cheryl Cole
N-Dubz
Pixie Lott
are all playlisted currently, and are similiar to Alex. And if it to do with her apparent rant, why didn't they just say so in the article, not make up some stupid reason that, let's face it, nobody's believes with the above artists on the playlist!
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:46
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WTF!!! This makes no sense, how does she 'not appeal to the listeners' when R1 happily playlist similair artists:
Talay Riley
Mike Posner
Rihanna
Alexis Jordan
Cheryl Cole
N-Dubz
Pixie Lott
are all playlisted currently, and are similiar to Alex. And if it to do with her apparent rant, why didn't they just say so in the article, not make up some stupid reason that, let's face it, nobody's believes with the above artists on the playlist!
i completely agree...

Care to shed light on this rant?
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:48
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Radio 1 are elitist arseholes. Awful station...not that I've listened to it in about seven years at least.
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:48
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it does seem rather odd, maybe by his comment ''...Alexandra Burke, etc" he means X Factor winners, maybe the BBC has an issue with promoting what are essentially products from a rival channel?
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:49
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I thought something was up when according to FMs her last two singles weren't playlisted.
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:56
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She did manage to get to #1 with 'Start without you' which is a testament to how loyal/big her fan base is... AND how little Radio1 actually influence the charts
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:58
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the radio1 playlist has improved over the last couple of months, about 6 months ago it was truley dire, and i dont know who it was supposed to be appealing to!!
the decision not to playlist alex burke is just bizarre though, perhaps the person in charge doesnt know what hes doing?
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Old 12-10-2010, 20:59
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I thought something was up when according to FMs her last two singles weren't playlisted.
Then 'Start Without You' still got to number 1. I Love it when songs not on the playlist chart well. Radio 1 think they can push all of their perceived 'cool' music and it will instantly be top 10..not the case.

But anyway i'm sure I heard Alex on Radio 1 the other week being interviewed by Vernon?......
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:02
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the radio1 playlist has improved over the last couple of months, about 6 months ago it was truley dire, and i dont know who it was supposed to be appealing to!!
the decision not to playlist alex burke is just bizarre though, perhaps the person in charge doesnt know what hes doing?
seemingly he's been there for 6years... i dunno...

that leach Aled Jones might have something to do with this, he was named in the article as having a major part to play in the decision on the playlist due to being a producer (to chris moyles)
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:03
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What is her fans' problem? Did her last single not reach no.1 despite not being played by Radio 1?

She is absolutely everywhere at the moment because of who she is - she's constantly in the media, commercial radio play her songs every hour, and she's constantly promoting on tv. She's not someone who needs Radio 1's support for her success, because she's being supported everywhere else.

I get annoyed at Radio 1's playlist at the best of times, but good on them for not sucking up to the charts in this case and instead giving some other, lesser-known artists a chance. It's a welcome relief. She's a stuck-up cow anyway who doesn't want to face the fact that she's had everything handed to her on a plate.

If the chart-loving kids want to hear her songs they can use their iPods or listen to some crappy commercial station. Radio 1 are just offering more of a variety for people who don't want to listen to top 40 rubbish on loop every day.
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:03
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Radio 1 are so far up their own arses. They play listed her first two singles, but then they didn't play list 'Broken Heels'...most likely because the last single Leona had released around that time didn't perform very well so I'm guessing they maybe thought the whole X Factor thing was dying out. Then came 'All Night Long', which they again refused to play list, but which did really well regardless. Then most recently 'Start Without You'...this time people emailed them asking why they haven't play listed her singles despite her racking up hit after hit, and the funny thing is that they responded and said that they only play list tracks that are popular with the public. The track got to number one for god sake!! Also, when 'Start Without You' was first announced, Radio 1 played it once and the DJ asked people to let him know on Twitter what they thought of it. The majority of the replies were positive, but the DJ only read out negative ones. Also, when they do the chart run down on a Sunday, they never play her track...they just announce what number she is and play a 20 second clip of the track. What's also ridiculous is that they have had her on the show and interviewed her a number of times now...(why do this if they don't think she's popular with the public?) but they still won't play list her. They're so far up their own arses and really do think that they're "with it" when it comes to music, but they're really not.
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:06
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Radio 1 are so far up their own arses. They play listed her first two singles, but then they didn't play list 'Broken Heels'...most likely because the last single Leona had released around that time didn't perform very well so I'm guessing they maybe thought the whole X Factor thing was dying out. Then came 'All Night Long', which they again refused to play list, but which did really well regardless. Then most recently 'Start Without You'...this time people emailed them asking why they haven't play listed her singles despite her racking up hit after hit, and the funny thing is that they responded and said that they only play list tracks that are popular with the public. The track got to number one for god sake!! Also, when 'Start Without You' was first announced, Radio 1 played it once and the DJ asked people to let him know on Twitter what they thought of it. The majority of the replies were positive, but the DJ only read out negative ones. Also, when they do the chart run down on a Sunday, they never play her track...they just announce what number she is and play a 20 second clip of the track. What's also ridiculous is that they have had her on the show and interviewed her a number of times now...(why do this if they don't think she's popular with the public?) but they still won't play list her. They're so far up their own arses and really do think that they're "with it" when it comes to music, but they're really not.
Yes they did playlist Broken Heels - it reached their A-list. Way to show your own ignorance.

Alex Burke is the one who's so far up her own arse - have you seen her in the papers and on tv?
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:06
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The only time I ever listen to radio1 is for Zane Lowe who I love!
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:13
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What is her fans' problem? Did her last single not reach no.1 despite not being played by Radio 1?

She is absolutely everywhere at the moment because of who she is - she's constantly in the media, commercial radio play her songs every hour, and she's constantly promoting on tv. She's not someone who needs Radio 1's support for her success, because she's being supported everywhere else.

I get annoyed at Radio 1's playlist at the best of times, but good on them for not sucking up to the charts in this case and instead giving some other, lesser-known artists a chance. It's a welcome relief. She's a stuck-up cow anyway who doesn't want to face the fact that she's had everything handed to her on a plate.

If the chart-loving kids want to hear her songs they can use their iPods or listen to some crappy commercial station. Radio 1 are just offering more of a variety for people who don't want to listen to top 40 rubbish on loop every day.
i agree, but they always suck up to whats popular!!
they try and steer away from 'pop' music, basshunter got no love till he got to number 1 with his debut - then he magically appeared on the playlist.
cascada had 3 top 10 hits from there first album - none of them on the playlist - until the second album comes out, radio1 then decide to playlist every song!!
then ofcourse 'the wanted', 'all time low' never got playlisted, probably because radio1 thought it was too 'poppy' and not 'edgy' enough LMAO. it still gets to number 1 though, and guess what, yep they have decided to playlist the wanteds second single! there are many other examples of this. the list does go on!
its amazing that radio 1 see themselves as the 'leaders' for music, when they are clearly just following!
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:26
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i agree, but they always suck up to whats popular!!
they try and steer away from 'pop' music, basshunter got no love till he got to number 1 with his debut - then he magically appeared on the playlist.
cascada had 3 top 10 hits from there first album - none of them on the playlist - until the second album comes out, radio1 then decide to playlist every song!!
then ofcourse 'the wanted', 'all time low' never got playlisted, probably because radio1 thought it was too 'poppy' and not 'edgy' enough LMAO. it still gets to number 1 though, and guess what, yep they have decided to playlist the wanteds second single! there are many other examples of this. the list does go on!
its amazing that radio 1 see themselves as the 'leaders' for music, when they are clearly just following!
The Wanted's debut song reached no.1 because they ran an extraordinary campaign for the song - they were completely unavoidable for months leading up to the release, and being a young boyband they are marketed directly at teen fangirls who will buy their songs because they fancy them. No offence to them but it's true.

I don't get what you mean about Radio 1 thinking they are 'leaders'? Do you mean in terms of the charts? I think they've made it quite clear they aren't just going to play whatever's in the charts - because since when has the singles chart been about quality? Sure, they play many songs that are popular because they get such a big audience, but they give a lot of support to indie and alt bands who don't get any support elsewhere because they aren't commercial enough. How is that a bad thing that Radio 1 play different stuff? Who else supports bands like Muse, Kasabian, Arctic Monkeys etc.? No commercial radio station supports such bands because they aren't chart-friendly enough and they think their audiences would HATE to hear songs by them. Such stations think we are all idiots. Why should Radio 1 just suck up to the top 40 lovers?
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:31
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To be fair though, I can understand Radio 1's mentality. They were pretty much the only people playing Pass Out on the radio before they got #1. It was only after he got there that other stations started playing it.

Then there's all those songs like Not Afraid, Alors on danse, etc, which commercial radio (almost) never played, but made the charts.

I agree it's very sad they don't playlist Alex. Not only do they not play here, but I know a couple of the presenters were quite angry when she got #1. I remember one of them saying that she'd never make 2 weeks at the top, and then she did.

However, saying she's "banned" is a bit extreme. The week her song got to #1, she was played at the very least 4 times. As a poster above mentioned, she was interviewed, and then the song was played on the mid-week chart show, and then twice on the Sunday chart show. Since C-Listed tracks are meant to get played at least 5 times a week, it wasn't that bad.
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:32
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Has anyone had a link to this article in Q Im sure I heard Moyles talk about it the other day.
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:46
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...However, saying she's "banned" is a bit extreme. The week her song got to #1, she was played at the very least 4 times. As a poster above mentioned, she was interviewed, and then the song was played on the mid-week chart show, and then twice on the Sunday chart show. Since C-Listed tracks are meant to get played at least 5 times a week, it wasn't that bad.
absolute rubbish.

Banned before she hit number1... anything after this and a radio station dont have very much option but to play it as its number1...

if alex was to release a new single tomorrow, it wont be featured on Radio1's playlist (as per the article) The thread is about why?
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Old 12-10-2010, 21:51
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...I don't get what you mean about Radio 1 thinking they are 'leaders'? Do you mean in terms of the charts? I think they've made it quite clear they aren't just going to play whatever's in the charts - because since when has the singles chart been about quality? Sure, they play many songs that are popular because they get such a big audience, but they give a lot of support to indie and alt bands who don't get any support elsewhere because they aren't commercial enough. How is that a bad thing that Radio 1 play different stuff? Who else supports bands like Muse, Kasabian, Arctic Monkeys etc.? No commercial radio station supports such bands because they aren't chart-friendly enough and they think their audiences would HATE to hear songs by them. Such stations think we are all idiots. Why should Radio 1 just suck up to the top 40 lovers?
Have you listened to radio1 recently? or the charts for that matter... Its full of Pop/Dance cross over music... This is all that seems to make the Radio1 playlist these days.

You seem to be taking this a tad off topic.. The thread is about why ALEXANDRA BURKE isnt playlisted when she certainly fits the genre/audience that radio1 already cater to, i dont believe this has anything to do with Kasabian or Arctic Monkeys..
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Old 12-10-2010, 22:07
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Have you listened to radio1 recently? or the charts for that matter... Its full of Pop/Dance cross over music... This is all that seems to make the Radio1 playlist these days.

You seem to be taking this a tad off topic.. The thread is about why ALEXANDRA BURKE isnt playlisted when she certainly fits the genre/audience that radio1 already cater to, i dont believe this has anything to do with Kasabian or Arctic Monkeys..
I do listen to Radio 1 every day. I don't love everything they play - far from it, but they do at least have a variety of genres and mixture of chart songs and less-commercial ones. If you think pop/dance music is all they play then I should be the one asking you if you've listened to Radio 1 recently. Just look at their current A-list for example, it's quite diverse: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/playlist/

I realise I might be veering slightly off-topic, but I was responding to someone who said Radio 1 were trying to be 'leaders' but only mentioned chart songs, as if that's all they play.
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Old 12-10-2010, 22:07
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The Wanted's debut song reached no.1 because they ran an extraordinary campaign for the song - they were completely unavoidable for months leading up to the release, and being a young boyband they are marketed directly at teen fangirls who will buy their songs because they fancy them. No offence to them but it's true.

I don't get what you mean about Radio 1 thinking they are 'leaders'? Do you mean in terms of the charts? I think they've made it quite clear they aren't just going to play whatever's in the charts - because since when has the singles chart been about quality? Sure, they play many songs that are popular because they get such a big audience, but they give a lot of support to indie and alt bands who don't get any support elsewhere because they aren't commercial enough. How is that a bad thing that Radio 1 play different stuff? Who else supports bands like Muse, Kasabian, Arctic Monkeys etc.? No commercial radio station supports such bands because they aren't chart-friendly enough and they think their audiences would HATE to hear songs by them. Such stations think we are all idiots. Why should Radio 1 just suck up to the top 40 lovers?
what are you saying?? i think the other poster was making the point that radio1 DO just follow the 'top 40'.
esmee denters, cascada etc etc, they dont playlist these artists, realise they are popular then decide to playlist them!
they give out the impression that they champion new music and dont follow the crowd, but its absolute crap! there pitiful attempts at avoiding any 'pop' music are laughable, because they end up playlisting them in the end anyway.
though i do agree, that i think its great you hear the likes of muse and then artists such as lady gaga all on the same station!
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Old 12-10-2010, 22:09
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It's one step towards ending the woeful "what simon cowell says so should be in the charts" that we have at the minute.


This artists should also be banned:
Talay Riley
Mike Posner
Rihanna
Alexis Jordan
Cheryl Cole
N-Dubz
Pixie Lott
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