o2 PAYG

05-07-2004, 09:29

I can't find O2's original PAYG tariff on their website. I have read 2 different versions of this tariff elsewhere (a magazine and mu O2 instruction booklet)

I don't know which one is correct

I thought they did 2p calls at the weekend on Original PAYG but my booklet says 10p?

jonat8 · 05-07-2004, 19:03

Is this the one you mean:
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html

Which clearly states weekend calls at 10ppm. I personally do remember an old BT Cellnet tariff that was peak/offpeak and weekend calls were 2ppm.

The talkalot and talkalotmore tariffs do offer 2ppm weekend calls, but you have to pay for the first 3 minutes at 25ppm before you quality for 2ppm.

An interesting new tariff is the Talkalotmore (High Street) tariff which offers 300 Xnet weekend/evening minutes free if you top up £30 per month or more.

Quote:

You'll get 300 free evening and weekend minutes to call standard UK fixed-lines and UK mobiles every month. Also includes International Talk & Text for free - save up to 93% on calls from the UK to abroad.

http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html

Matt` · 05-07-2004, 19:12

I remember it being 2p back in the bt cellnet days but thats long gone.

05-07-2004, 21:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonat8

Is this the one you mean:
http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html

Which clearly states weekend calls at 10ppm. I personally do remember an old BT Cellnet tariff that was peak/offpeak and weekend calls were 2ppm.

The talkalot and talkalotmore tariffs do offer 2ppm weekend calls, but you have to pay for the first 3 minutes at 25ppm before you quality for 2ppm.

An interesting new tariff is the Talkalotmore (High Street) tariff which offers 300 Xnet weekend/evening minutes free if you top up £30 per month or more.

http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html

i think O2's website is incompatible with my PC. That link brings up a blank screen as do many others, even with my firewall disabled.

jonat8 · 05-07-2004, 21:42

Here's what the page said:
http://www.jonathans-diary.com/o2.JPG

05-07-2004, 21:50

Thanks for that mate.

Interesting to note that O2 seem to charge exactly the same as orange.

Doh! I got an O2 sim because I thought they were 2p at the weekend!

Many thanks to a certain cellphone mag for its out of date info

jonat8 · 05-07-2004, 21:59

Well they can't vary pricing too much because if they make their prices too expensive then subscribers will defect to other networks. If they make them too cheap then they'll lose money so less profit (O2 would call it "investment in the network"!!). It's normally a pretty good policy for the networks to charge around about the same. The virtual networks like VIrgin are the ones that are doing the agressive pricing - the big 4 networks just don't want to change a winning forumula.

Example would be texting. 18 months ago the standard price for a text was 10p, now it's 12p on 3 of the big 4. It's not costing them any more to relay the message, in fact, texting is one of the services with the highest profit margin. They are just being plain greedy.

They can't even blame it on spending on new network infrastructure - all the networks cover 98-99% of the UK and have done for quite a while.

05-07-2004, 22:05

yeh, I remember when Orange were letting people text for free back in 1999, soon after they were as little as 5p, now they're 12p.

I often wonder if the networks are in collusion and deciding who does what. It happens with other industries too - one firm is cheaper for A the other is cheaper for B.

jonat8 · 05-07-2004, 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pioneer31

I often wonder if the networks are in collusion and deciding who does what. It happens with other industries too - one firm is cheaper for A the other is cheaper for B.

Well they officially aren't but no doubt they probably are. Look at it this way - if Orange puts up the price of their texts 2p, then the other networks will think one of two things. Either "We advertise that our texts are cheaper than Orange and hope we pull in the punters that way - but there are no guarantees" or "We put our prices up 2p too because it's quick profit and there's nothing the subscriber can do about it".

Which do you think they choose?

05-07-2004, 09:29	#1
Pioneer31 Posts: n/a	o2 PAYG I can't find O2's original PAYG tariff on their website. I have read 2 different versions of this tariff elsewhere (a magazine and mu O2 instruction booklet) I don't know which one is correct I thought they did 2p calls at the weekend on Original PAYG but my booklet says 10p?

05-07-2004, 19:03	#2
jonat8 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,584	Is this the one you mean: http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html Which clearly states weekend calls at 10ppm. I personally do remember an old BT Cellnet tariff that was peak/offpeak and weekend calls were 2ppm. The talkalot and talkalotmore tariffs do offer 2ppm weekend calls, but you have to pay for the first 3 minutes at 25ppm before you quality for 2ppm. An interesting new tariff is the Talkalotmore (High Street) tariff which offers 300 Xnet weekend/evening minutes free if you top up £30 per month or more. Quote: You'll get 300 free evening and weekend minutes to call standard UK fixed-lines and UK mobiles every month. Also includes International Talk & Text for free - save up to 93% on calls from the UK to abroad. http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html

05-07-2004, 19:12	#3
Matt` Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: UK Posts: 188	I remember it being 2p back in the bt cellnet days but thats long gone.

05-07-2004, 21:30	#4
Pioneer31 Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by jonat8 Is this the one you mean: http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html Which clearly states weekend calls at 10ppm. I personally do remember an old BT Cellnet tariff that was peak/offpeak and weekend calls were 2ppm. The talkalot and talkalotmore tariffs do offer 2ppm weekend calls, but you have to pay for the first 3 minutes at 25ppm before you quality for 2ppm. An interesting new tariff is the Talkalotmore (High Street) tariff which offers 300 Xnet weekend/evening minutes free if you top up £30 per month or more. http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices...0,,112,00.html i think O2's website is incompatible with my PC. That link brings up a blank screen as do many others, even with my firewall disabled.

05-07-2004, 21:42	#5
jonat8 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,584	Here's what the page said: http://www.jonathans-diary.com/o2.JPG

05-07-2004, 21:50	#6
Pioneer31 Posts: n/a	Thanks for that mate. Interesting to note that O2 seem to charge exactly the same as orange. Doh! I got an O2 sim because I thought they were 2p at the weekend! Many thanks to a certain cellphone mag for its out of date info

05-07-2004, 21:59	#7
jonat8 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,584	Well they can't vary pricing too much because if they make their prices too expensive then subscribers will defect to other networks. If they make them too cheap then they'll lose money so less profit (O2 would call it "investment in the network"!!). It's normally a pretty good policy for the networks to charge around about the same. The virtual networks like VIrgin are the ones that are doing the agressive pricing - the big 4 networks just don't want to change a winning forumula. Example would be texting. 18 months ago the standard price for a text was 10p, now it's 12p on 3 of the big 4. It's not costing them any more to relay the message, in fact, texting is one of the services with the highest profit margin. They are just being plain greedy. They can't even blame it on spending on new network infrastructure - all the networks cover 98-99% of the UK and have done for quite a while.

05-07-2004, 22:05	#8
Pioneer31 Posts: n/a	yeh, I remember when Orange were letting people text for free back in 1999, soon after they were as little as 5p, now they're 12p. I often wonder if the networks are in collusion and deciding who does what. It happens with other industries too - one firm is cheaper for A the other is cheaper for B.

05-07-2004, 22:07	#9
jonat8 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,584	Quote: Originally Posted by Pioneer31 I often wonder if the networks are in collusion and deciding who does what. It happens with other industries too - one firm is cheaper for A the other is cheaper for B. Well they officially aren't but no doubt they probably are. Look at it this way - if Orange puts up the price of their texts 2p, then the other networks will think one of two things. Either "We advertise that our texts are cheaper than Orange and hope we pull in the punters that way - but there are no guarantees" or "We put our prices up 2p too because it's quick profit and there's nothing the subscriber can do about it". Which do you think they choose?

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