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The Only Way is Essex
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Area88
26-04-2012
Arg hasn't done anything wrong this series, he's just more confident and people like him more now, even his fellow cast have praised him. It's ok to boast a little if you achieved something and he has achieved alot in a short period of time, it's good to be proud of oneself. Mark was like this and everyone loved him.

Axe Lydia instead.
Scotty_c.man
26-04-2012
Originally Posted by Area88:
“Arg hasn't done anything wrong this series, he's just more confident and people like him more now, even his fellow cast have praised him. It's ok to boast a little if you achieved something and he has achieved alot in a short period of time, it's good to be proud of oneself. Mark was like this and everyone loved him.

Axe Lydia instead.”

When Arg was talking to Lydia, and he was all like, (cant remember the exact words but...) If you dont get with me, you may well regret it ... was very big headed of him. I get that has lost weight, and looks much better then he use to, but I think his ego is overtaking his body tbh. When Lydia called him an arrogant arsehole, she was pretty much on the money. Yes did well, but he aint no James Bond yet!
KimberleyEscada
26-04-2012
Originally Posted by Scotty_c.man:
“When Arg was talking to Lydia, and he was all like, (cant remember the exact words but...) If you dont get with me, you may well regret it ... was very big headed of him. I get that has lost weight, and looks much better then he use to, but I think his ego is overtaking his body tbh. When Lydia called him an arrogant arsehole, she was pretty much on the money. Yes did well, but he aint no James Bond yet!”

Yes, and also his comments that he could have Lydia on her back with her knickers down if he wanted to.
Plus his arrogant behaviour at the fabulous shoot and the info I posted from a guy who did security for them.
I stand by my comment that fame has gone to his head.
Area88
26-04-2012
That Lydia remark was last series when he was still hurting. Lydia was still toying with his feelings, throwing him the occasional bone every now and again, like a good dog. I'm proud that Arg has become his own person. Why is it okay for Mark to be bigheaded but not Arg? Arg is on a high after being depressed for so long. Arg should be seen as a motivational figure, if Arg can turn his life around, anyone can.
xxstephiebabixx
26-04-2012
anyone else wondering what happened to mr darcy? seems he has been long forgotten about now lydia has that puppy.

novelty wore off i spose
Emmgrem
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by katy18:
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Oh and did anyone else notice that Jess didn't seem fazed at all by the Gemma/Ricky situation? I've read somewhere last week (on one of those hot or not things) that Jess is seeing someone who isn't on the show - but if that's true and her and Ricky are just for the show then I'll be disappointed with the producers. I know lots of situations on Towie are set up but a fake relationship is too far for a "reality" show.
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Well I wouldn't put anything past the producers. When I went to London last year we got talking to someone in a bar who Lauren G used to be a receptionist for and he told us that he knew Lauren well and that her and Mark weren't even together and their engagement was just for the show - which almost seems to have been proved true considering the random/swift nature of it where they went from single to engaged and then over summer split up again with not much explanation during the show.
ciaociao
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by browncheeks:
“Gemma - wow, so humiliating being dump by a gay man on TV
”

What's inherently humiliating about being "dumped" by someone because they're gay, though? The fact that the problem with the pairing was entirely one sided should really be the opposite of humiliating? It's not Gemma's fault that he isn't interested in girls, it's nothing to do with Gemma. Surely humiliation is generally caused when you're dumped for something you have done?

Originally Posted by Area88:
“It's ok to boast a little if you achieved something and he has achieved alot in a short period of time, it's good to be proud of oneself. Mark was like this and everyone loved him.”

Arg's attitude to Lydia stank, he basically said:

Originally Posted by KimberleyEscada:
“his comments that he could have Lydia on her back with her knickers down if he wanted to.”

But going back to your points, he's "achieved a lot"? I must have missed something, but to me it looked like all he did was lose a little bit of weight. He's lucky enough to have the time and money to indulge in luxuries like porcelain veneers, and has access to diet and fitness advice, things which, to my mind, are more like leisure activities than achievements. It's great that he's feeling happier, and I do like Arg, but as viewers we're entitled to think he ought to tone down the attitude.

Secondly, not "everyone" loved Mark. The only times I did warm to the lad was when he wasn't being an arrogant, boasting tosser.

There is a world of difference between healthy confidence (confident people can still be humble!!) and vile arrogance.

Originally Posted by xxstephiebabixx:
“anyone else wondering what happened to mr darcy? seems he has been long forgotten about now lydia has that puppy.

novelty wore off i spose ”

Really good point! I want to know where the piggie went as well. If they dropped their pet after the novelty wore off I'd feel really differently about them.
fizzle90
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by ciaociao:
“What's inherently humiliating about being "dumped" by someone because they're gay, though? The fact that the problem with the pairing was entirely one sided should really be the opposite of humiliating? It's not Gemma's fault that he isn't interested in girls, it's nothing to do with Gemma. Surely humiliation is generally caused when you're dumped for something you have done?



Arg's attitude to Lydia stank, he basically said:



But going back to your points, he's "achieved a lot"? I must have missed something, but to me it looked like all he did was lose a little bit of weight. He's lucky enough to have the time and money to indulge in luxuries like porcelain veneers, and has access to diet and fitness advice, things which, to my mind, are more like leisure activities than achievements. It's great that he's feeling happier, and I do like Arg, but as viewers we're entitled to think he ought to tone down the attitude.

Secondly, not "everyone" loved Mark. The only times I did warm to the lad was when he wasn't being an arrogant, boasting tosser.

There is a world of difference between healthy confidence (confident people can still be humble!!) and vile arrogance.



Really good point! I want to know where the piggie went as well. If they dropped their pet after the novelty wore off I'd feel really differently about them. ”


Mr Darcy is the pig!
mia75
27-04-2012
They were sold the pig as a micro pig, but it's not. Lydia's mum let her keep it as long as they could, but he got too big so they took him to the local farm I believe.

That story about mark & Lauren not really being engaged is rubbish lol
xxstephiebabixx
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by mia75:
“They were sold the pig as a micro pig, but it's not. Lydia's mum let her keep it as long as they could, but he got too big so they took him to the local farm I believe.

That story about mark & Lauren not really being engaged is rubbish lol”

yeh i know he went to a farm but even then we saw lydia and arg go visit him. its just like he never exsisted now .. no one even mentions him! let alone goes and sees him.

she just has other priority's now i guess ....
Scotty_c.man
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by KimberleyEscada:
“Yes, and also his comments that he could have Lydia on her back with her knickers down if he wanted to.
Plus his arrogant behaviour at the fabulous shoot and the info I posted from a guy who did security for them.
I stand by my comment that fame has gone to his head.”

So true, the Arg of today is so different from the person we saw at the start of the show. He use to have a charm, a really likeable-ness about him, now thats gone, and theres an inflated ego. Lydia did good to get rid, cos his ego at this point is only going in one direction. I use to so like him so much, shame what fame and some weight loss can do.
Beau_Soir
27-04-2012
Arg has been unbearable this series. He's lost some weight, yes, but he's still got moobs and a jelly belly. You can't even say his personality is a redeeming feature as he's been an utter arse. I think he is actually a sexist pig. It's ok for him to mess around with girls, but when Lydia sleeps with someone else, all of a sudden he's better than her? What a c*ck! He's the arrogance of Mario, but without any of the looks.
Scotty_c.man
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by Beau_Soir:
“Arg has been unbearable this series. He's lost some weight, yes, but he's still got moobs and a jelly belly. You can't even say his personality is a redeeming feature as he's been an utter arse. I think he is actually a sexist pig. It's ok for him to mess around with girls, but when Lydia sleeps with someone else, all of a sudden he's better than her? What a c*ck! He's the arrogance of Mario, but without any of the looks.”

Testify! At least with Mario, you have something there that you wouldnt kick out of bed. Just the sight of him on that beach in his breifs, so got me all hot and bothered. He could be a model or something. Arg on the other hand, not so much.
Area88
27-04-2012
I hear what your saying guys but your comparison with Mario is abit unfair, Mario is allowed to be more conceited because he's considered better looking by you lot but Arg isn't? It's a double standard. Also at least with Arg you get more personality, Mario is like wallpaper in most scenes, can't stand his best friend either. Anyway I don't see what all the fuss is about Arg, he has more confidence, he still seems likeable to me and he's enjoying life more, Lydia is too, everything has worked out for the better.
Scotty_c.man
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by Area88:
“I hear what your saying guys but your comparison with Mario is abit unfair, Mario is allowed to be more conceited because he's considered better looking by you lot but Arg isn't? It's a double standard. Also at least with Arg you get more personality, Mario is like wallpaper in most scenes, can't stand his best friend either. Anyway I don't see what all the fuss is about Arg, he has more confidence, he still seems likeable to me and he's enjoying life more, Lydia is too, everything has worked out for the better.”

The thing with Arg's personality is the inflated ego, when the show started, he was a very likeable and watchable person, but now on the fifth series, he is not the like the guy we knew at the start, he's changed, and while it is good he has confidence, he ego outstrips his looks and personality at this point imo.
xxstephiebabixx
27-04-2012
cant help but feel that if mark was still around maybe arg's ego wouldnt be as big because mark was always putting him down.
too be fair series 1 of essex lydia was a little bit chunkier and then she lost weight and if i remember rightly then she started getting a bit big headed also. i cant remember exactly what she said but she was starting to be a bit of a B***c and i remember because it made me unlike her.

when people lose weight they just show off a bit but over time they realise that nothings changed, yes they have lost weight but thats it at the end of the day.
Hollo and Gonch
27-04-2012
Originally Posted by katy18:
“Love the new boys. Tom P and Tom K are lovely (and am developing a bit of a crush on both of them) - Ricardo isn't bad either when he's not in the lyrca running suit!”

I like him in the Lycra suit

Charlie is my favourite though - I think his face is absolutely beautiful
red-buds
27-04-2012
i like this programme i think gemma is perfect she is down to earth no showing up to the camera
Scotty_c.man
28-04-2012
Originally Posted by Hollo and Gonch:
“I like him in the Lycra suit

Charlie is my favourite though - I think his face is absolutely beautiful ”

Amen!!! He should wear that everyday of the week, and he would if I ran the world. Not many men could pull that off, and own it like he does, but he does.
Beautiful_Harv
28-04-2012
Originally Posted by red-buds:
“i like this programme i think gemma is perfect she is down to earth no showing up to the camera”

But was it just me who didnt get why she was p'eed off with Charlie- shouldnt it have been the other way around?

Ive really went off Gemma this series. And Jess? She's supposed to be 26 but acts like a teenager. Ricky is playing her with all the right words and messages :yawn: and she is falling for it- daft bint.
adam822108
28-04-2012
Originally Posted by Beautiful_Harv:
“But was it just me who didnt get why she was p'eed off with Charlie- shouldnt it have been the other way around?

Ive really went off Gemma this series. And Jess? She's supposed to be 26 but acts like a teenager. Ricky is playing her with all the right words and messages :yawn: and she is falling for it- daft bint.”

Totally agree with you mate; it should have been the other way around!!

And yeah, you are spot on with Jess; she needs to get a grip!! As if nanna pat wanted to here all about Gemma ''sexing'' ricky when Jess was telling her at the table. Childish ))))
Bex.
28-04-2012
think they are filming an episode in Marbella, all the cast seems to have gone this weekend!
Demizdeeroolz
29-04-2012
Gemma really reminds me of Dawn French playing Jackie Collins in the 'Lucky Bitches' sketch. Identical hair and make up


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie9J-jxcOCE
Bex.
29-04-2012
Joey is on the live chat tonight, so one of the main storylines will be about him. probably the recycled Sam one. they'll "give it another go"
tj999
29-04-2012
Evening
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