Thanks for telling me. You learn something new every day.

I remember - the woman has no understanding or compassion for anyone who doesn't fit into a neat little right wing box.

Well, that's me and you off her Christmas card list then.

She might like your limericks though.

And the relevance of that to SCD is? :yawn:

What Ignazio means is that - to many people - Ms Widdecombe arrived on SCD with baggage.

In soo many ways

Not the ones I have in mind.


Thanks tony - that's precisely what I meant.

Whatever she does she needs to go to Rigby and Peller

originally posted by tonydancer

So what, still has no relevance to SCD. I'm sure if you scraped the barrell you would find everyone on SCD has baggage including posters here!

touche

Of course it's relevant, although equally obviously, not only to Ann.

I remember that. It beats me where all this sudden apparent love and admiration for the woman has come from. I doubt she has one iota of compassion in her body for anyone. She speaks her mind..so do a lot of other bigotted, unpleasant people, but I wouldn't want to spend much time in their company. The same goes for Ann Widdecombe.

I think the bounce will be there whether she wants it to be or not...

Ann's politics are so unacceptable to many that they would rather walk on hot coals than vote for her. In this respect her 'baggage' is indeed relevant.

Those who are comfortable with her record are free to vote for her - but to plead irrelevance is to ignore the legitimacy of the strong feelings held my many who disagree with you.


Never ceases to amaze me how many people proudly preface insult, prejudice, bigotry etc. with "I speak my mind."

Originally posted by Ignazio

I repeat, this has nothing to do with SCD. Seems to me that you are more concerned with your own brand of politics here than with what SCD is all about. I doubt if the majority of SCD fans care a hoot about the things that seem to trouble you in regard to Ann W's participation. If they did then clearly she would not be getting the support she has had.

Originally posted by RichmondBlue


I don't think anybody is asking you to spend time in Ann Widdecombe's company or indeed in the company of any of those unpleasant people you so dislike.. If we started analysing the opinions/views of all the contestants both now and in previous years we would probably end up with but a handfull of people liked by all.

Instead of all this silly bitching why can't you just enjoy SCD for what it is - NOT a political show!:yawn:

You will need more than repetition to prove a point.

Take note of my previous comments - those who are comfortable with her politics will show support by voting for her - that is their right. Those who remember and regard her extreme views with contempt will not; thus exercising their own rights to freedom of choice.

Having watched SCD since series 1 I am well aware of 'what it's all about.' I am also aware of the disparate reasons viewers connect to some contestants more than others.

One might be influenced by physical attraction. personality, ability or often admiration for past achievements. Conversely what encourages support in one person proves to be discouraging in another.

I have no problem with Ms.W's participation - I've simply attempted to outline the reasons why, never in a month of Sundays, would I vote for her.

Oh, I do enjoy the programme for what it is, and it doesn't particularly bother me that Ms Widdecombe is a participant.
However, in Ann's case, I do find myself unable to completely ignore her past record. Ann Widdecombe was a politician in a position of power, and what she said and did could influence our lives. Therefore, my dislike for her is based on her beliefs and principles..like all politicians, these were aspects of her character that she was always keen to make clear. I'm certainly not conceited enough to think my opinion matters a damn, but this is a forum for posting views..so I gave mine.

Ignazio wrote
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Sorry if you think I'm repeating myself, maybe it's because you seem unable to let go of the "politics" thing as your latest response shows. Contrary to what you surmise I doubt if the majority of those who support her do so because they also support her political views. Clearly a few, like yourself are unable to separate enjoying an entertainment programme for what it is with your deep held political opinions. That's your choice but to assume that everyone else wants to know or even cares is rather presumptious in my humble opinion.

I know you were repeating yourself - because you said so!

I have no intention of falling into the same trap.

btw if you click on Quote the post to which you're responding will include the name of the poster - without the need for you to type and embolden it yourself.

It gets a little confusing when other posters are responding to you

If she's liable to crack anything it's more likely to be the floorboards. It's just cruelty to keep her in so that people can laugh at her.

I don't recall Ignazio suggesting that anyone would care about his opinions, so how is he being "presumptious" ?
It's a discussion forum about SCD, we post out our opinions and may hope for the odd reply, just to keep the conversation going. You appear to have a problem with anyone criticising Ann Widdecombe for her political beliefs, yet there are dozens of threads criticising other celebrity contestants for reasons that appear petty in comparison.
After giving it some thought, I think it's probably unwise to invite any former politicians into SCD (or any other "reality tv" type of show) There were rumours of Peter Mandelson taking part, another politician who gives rise to strong feelings..it may be a good idea for ratings, but it would spoil the general good natured fun of the programme..in my humble opinion.

Her tango this week might astound you.

Well that doesn't apply in Ann's case, she had had me in stitches and she and Anton are always good natured and great fun.

Which kinds of brings things back to the point I made, which was that her scores aren't keeping her in but the votes are...at least for now...and those votes may well in part be from people who aren't bothered about her politics (as well as those unaware or indeed supportive of them).

Fair enough, I'm honestly glad you enjoy their routines.
I just can't look at them and forget the years of " political baggage" that accompany her. It's my loss because I've enjoyed everything else about SCD over the years, the good, the bad, and the indifferent.
So, I hope your enjoyment of A&A lasts..but not for TOO much longer.