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Maz1111
17-10-2010
I just saw the pictures without the words! It was about SCD, just want to know what happened. Anyone watch?
Jan2555*GG*
17-10-2010
Yes.......the first complaint read out was mine

Basically I started a thread on the points of view message board about the mess that is the results show.....I complained about the long drawn out safe/no safe thing and some others also moaned about the lack of dance off.

The producer said that basically its all good and the long elimination 'adds suspense' and allows them time to talk to the couples in danger (that would be Claudia asking Peter how he felt about not being supported by the public ) So basically we are going to ignore you and leave it as it is because we like it that way.
Paace
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Yes.......the first complaint read out was mine

Basically I started a thread on the points of view message board about the mess that is the results show.....I complained about the long drawn out safe/no safe thing and some others also moaned about the lack of dance off.

The producer said that basically its all good and the long elimination 'adds suspense' and allows them time to talk to the couples in danger (that would be Claudia asking Peter how he felt about not being supported by the public ) So basically we are going to ignore you and leave it as it is because we like it that way.”

Well done Jan for getting your views read out. Yes typical response from the BBC, but you can be sure judging by this forum many share your view. I cannot see them continuing with this pointless Sunday half hour show especially when most know the outcome.
Cheryl423
17-10-2010
Plus, think of the expense - Tess and everyone else has a new outfit - two every week, hair, makeup etc. Why not just do away with it, add 10 minutes to the live show and have a proper bit of suspense ? And save some money with the spending review due on Wednesday instead of wasting it on things the licence fee payers mostly don't want by the look of this forum !
fredster
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by Cheryl423:
“Plus, think of the expense - Tess and everyone else has a new outfit - two every week, hair, makeup etc. Why not just do away with it, add 10 minutes to the live show and have a proper bit of suspense ? And save some money with the spending review due on Wednesday instead of wasting it on things the licence fee payers mostly don't want by the look of this forum !”

Totally agree, tess even said that yesterday was today (Sunday) We all know it was saturday and most of us have seen the result already. Why can't tie the whole thing up on saturday? As you so rightly say lookat all the expense trying to fool us us the show is live tonight.
Maz1111
17-10-2010
Thanks for that. Great on you! Totally agree, I hope some day they will listen.
Simone17
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Totally agree, tess even said that yesterday was today (Sunday) We all know it was saturday and most of us have seen the result already. Why can't tie the whole thing up on saturday? As you so rightly say lookat all the expense trying to fool us us the show is live tonight.”

Sorry, but how do you know that "most of us" had already seen the result?
Buggles1
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Totally agree, tess even said that yesterday was today (Sunday) We all know it was saturday and most of us have seen the result already. Why can't tie the whole thing up on saturday? As you so rightly say lookat all the expense trying to fool us us the show is live tonight.”

Probably because the X Factor's on for about 3 million hours! Also they've never said the Sunday show is live, but it would be kind of weird to say 'tonight' when its shown the day after the main show
Winehouse
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“The producer said that basically its all good and the long elimination 'adds suspense' and allows them time to talk to the couples in danger”

The producers are idiots and always throw out the same lines. They said the same thing about the dance-off and were obviously wrong because [voila] it's now gone.

It doesn't add to the suspense at all. It's totally tedious and fits in with the tired format of all these types of shows. Eventually one of them will change their approach and the rest will just follow suit. They've never heard of originality.

The results show is a complete and utter farce. Why not disappear for the news in between numbers 5 & 6 being eliminated. Better still why not start it on Sunday (aka Saturday) and have two through every night, culminating in a final elimination on the Friday. Now that would really add to the suspense. :yawn::yawn::yawn:
-Sid-
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by Jan2555*GG*:
“Yes.......the first complaint read out was mine

Basically I started a thread on the points of view message board about the mess that is the results show.....I complained about the long drawn out safe/no safe thing and some others also moaned about the lack of dance off.

The producer said that basically its all good and the long elimination 'adds suspense' and allows them time to talk to the couples in danger (that would be Claudia asking Peter how he felt about not being supported by the public ) So basically we are going to ignore you and leave it as it is because we like it that way.”

Nice one on getting your letter read out Jan!

Haven't watched POV in years, not since Ann Robinson used to present it.

Anyway, who are the producers to tell us what makes for good drama? The viewers are the ones in the best position to express how tense we do or don't feel!
Winehouse
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Totally agree, tess even said that yesterday was today (Sunday) We all know it was saturday and most of us have seen the result already. Why can't tie the whole thing up on saturday? As you so rightly say lookat all the expense trying to fool us us the show is live tonight.”

They could at least ask the audience in the front row to move seats, change their outfits or at least comb their hair across to the opposite side.
libby21
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by Winehouse:
“They could at least ask the audience in the front row to move seats, change their outfits or at least comb their hair across to the opposite side.”

Smokeychan1
17-10-2010
Originally Posted by -Sid-:
“Anyway, who are the producers to tell us what makes for good drama? The viewers are the ones in the best position to express how tense we do or don't feel!”

But be fair Sid, as long as I have been reading these forums, the SCD fans here have decried the dance off and lamented the good ole days when it used to be bottom of the leader board was out.

Now we have the old format back, people still arent happy and there is even a "bring back the dance-off" thread!

We're a fickle bunch right enough, and if we don't know what we want, how can we expect the producers to?

BTW, as someone who avidly avoids this forum between the Saturday and Sunday shows, I will disagree that the result show is completely devoid of tension. However, I do agree it would work much better if both shows were shown the same night.
jake lyle
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“ I cannot see them continuing with this pointless Sunday half hour show especially when most know the outcome.”

Yeah because 9m people check the spoiler thread
jake lyle
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by fredster:
“Totally agree, tess even said that yesterday was today (Sunday) We all know it was saturday and most of us have seen the result already. Why can't tie the whole thing up on saturday? As you so rightly say lookat all the expense trying to fool us us the show is live tonight.”

As has been pointed out a million times, this is done to avoid more confusion not to pretend its live. It Would be totally stupid for her to say well earlier tonight.

and since when did a few strictly Fanatics on this board become 'most' of the 9m viewers who watch Strictly.
Kmc1978
18-10-2010
I don't mind the results being shown on sunday (actually missed the spoiler thread last year...doh!!), don't mind Tess saying last night instead of tonight. I just don't see why they do her hair differently and give her a new outfit... it does seem a bit wasteful. TBF a lot of us would probably not notice if she was wearing the same outfit
mossy2103
18-10-2010
I posted in another thread that the BBC would be likely to take notice of any complaints about the Sunday format if the ratings for that programmed declined drastically.

Last week, the overnights (i.e excluding timeshifts) were 8.9 million

This week, the overnights were 8.9 million.


So, it looks like most viewers came back to the programme. And on that basis, the format is unlikely to change.
mossy2103
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by jake lyle:
“As has been pointed out a million times, this is done to avoid more confusion not to pretend its live. It Would be totally stupid for her to say well earlier tonight.”

She could of course simply say "earlier ..." which would be better as it would be open to interpretation.
johnnyutah
18-10-2010
The pre-recorded Sunday show is utterly lame, just as it was 2 years ago. SCD needs to be live, like X Factor. It's event tv and you want to tune in for the tension, the suspense, the drama.
The dance-off isn't required. It simply needs to be a 2nd live 'results' show later on a Saturday. Why couldn't they have done this with Tess and Claudia hosting?
All the nonsense of 'Last night we saw some amazing dances'
Don't con the viewers like this. It is ridiculous. All the questions asked of the judges and contestants are totally pointless and add nothing to the show.
You also want to be watching the amazing dance routines and guests music slots live. So what if things go wrong - that's all part of the fun. The ratings only hold up on a Sunday because people want to see the result. Most viewers don't realise it's not live.
isopap
18-10-2010
I much prefer results show on Sunday and actually quite like the format. I'd also be quite surprised if the producers of any tv show changed a format on the basis of one letter to points of view, if the ratings are remaining constant why should they change it?

Regarding the dance off I miss it in so much as it was always quite good to see a bit more dancing, but I don't miss the judges having the final decision, although if Michelle had gone over Paul last night I'm sure I'd have been raging against their removal of power
80sQueen
18-10-2010
I didn't catch POV but I'd like to know why Saturday's show can't be repeated on Sunday, on BBC Three.

X-Factor gets repeated on a seemingly constant loop so why can't Strictly? It's not like the BBC is allergic to repeats or anything is it?
BuddyBontheNet
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“The pre-recorded Sunday show is utterly lame, just as it was 2 years ago. SCD needs to be live, like X Factor. It's event tv and you want to tune in for the tension, the suspense, the drama....
You also want to be watching the amazing dance routines and guests music slots live. So what if things go wrong - that's all part of the fun. The ratings only hold up on a Sunday because people want to see the result. Most viewers don't realise it's not live.”

The show is recorded live and to my knowledge (which is based on what is posted by people on here who has been in the audience, no editing goes on). I think there is plenty of tension, suspense and drama - and I read the spoiler!

I don't think we can say how many viewers think the show is live, but there was plenty information in the media this year about Bruce not staying for the Results show and Claudia doing it with Tess instead, so fewer and fewer people must think it is live after 8 series.

Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“The dance-off isn't required. It simply needs to be a 2nd live 'results' show later on a Saturday. Why couldn't they have done this with Tess and Claudia hosting?”

I agree no dance off is required and I agree about preferring a second live show later on the same night, but I do love having SCD 7 days a week! The problem is X Factor doesn't finish until 10.00 pm and if the two shows are not supposed to clash (I don't agree about that btw), then the live results show would be on far too late for family viewing. It would probably also cost more money in some way because of the programme schedule for Saturday and Sunday nights.
Originally Posted by johnnyutah:
“All the nonsense of 'Last night we saw some amazing dances'
Don't con the viewers like this. It is ridiculous. All the questions asked of the judges and contestants are totally pointless and add nothing to the show.”

There's not one bit of the results show that I don't mind, so I don't feel conned - except by the fact it isn't long enough! I mean where on earth was the dance troupe last night???

I think I must be in the minority too, as I like the staggered reveal of which couples are safe and which are not.
Starpuss
18-10-2010
I didn't watch the results show last night and won't be bothering again unless they make it more entertaining. It was so dull the first week :yawn:

The only thing that might have tempted me was the thought of seeing the Dance Troupe but apparently they aren't on every week so I won't bother.
molo flapian
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by 80sQueen:
“I didn't catch POV but I'd like to know why Saturday's show can't be repeated on Sunday, on BBC Three.

X-Factor gets repeated on a seemingly constant loop so why can't Strictly? It's not like the BBC is allergic to repeats or anything is it?”

True that is. I don't get why they don't repeat it. Is it to do with music royalities

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I watched POV Moira Ross basically says they've changed it - they think it's better as they interview the celebs and we see more of their reaction. I preferred the old version, with a danceoff. It meant we got to see the bottom two perform twice. Greedy me Nice for the one that goes that is and I thought it added more tension than this long-winded countdown. Seeing them dance what maybe their last dance was more emotional for me.

I really dislike one thing though.
Tess, midway or somewhere through the results says we have (x amount) safe but ''the rest of you will just have to wait!'' Didn't like that. I felt it too dismissive for 'the stars of the show.'
-Sid-
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Smokeychan1:
“But be fair Sid, as long as I have been reading these forums, the SCD fans here have decried the dance off and lamented the good ole days when it used to be bottom of the leader board was out.

Now we have the old format back, people still arent happy and there is even a "bring back the dance-off" thread!

We're a fickle bunch right enough, and if we don't know what we want, how can we expect the producers to?

BTW, as someone who avidly avoids this forum between the Saturday and Sunday shows, I will disagree that the result show is completely devoid of tension. However, I do agree it would work much better if both shows were shown the same night.”

I might have given the wrong impression, but my beef isn't anything to do with the dance-off but the strange way in which the results are announced. I'd rather it was done in one go rather than drips and drabs which doesn't enhance the tension in my opinion, it spoils it.

I'm happy about the absence of a dance off though
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