Indeed indeed. Politeness, like justice, ought to be SEEN to be done (or at least heard on the phone).

I wouldn't touch the DM with a bargepole, and i think it's incredibly rude of you to make such unfounded assumptions and then try to tell us we're not allowed to have an opinion! If you want positive posts about Paul, go to his and Ola's appreciation thread, although most of the posts there funnily enough are by me!

I actually did think Ola looked a bit perturbed at the comment, she was very graceful not to say anything. And it really doesn't take a lot to say 'thank yo' two word, maybe half a second. If people can't be bothered with such simple common courtesy, i think it's very sad. He was asked did he want to say anything to Ola - a very clear indication that he could just say 'thank you', but instead he came out with a inappropriate joke that was an embarassment to Ola and to both their other halves. So I don't see any problem with criticising that.

What it really comes down to is a lack of manners on Paul's behalf - that is my view

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I just think (some) people are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Paul may not have thanked Ola at the end, but he continuously praised her during his short time on the show.
The guy is 72 years old, he had been on the receiving end of some pretty cutting remarks from Craig (his own fault for entering of course) and I think we can cut him a bit of slack.
He tried to be funny and failed, but that's hardly a crime.
I have never particularly liked him, but if I'm still able to dance like that at 72, I won't be complaining.

I agree - he seems to be one of those old-fashioned celebs who probably considers Ola as the hired help - she was doing what she was paid to do and therefore doesn't need any thanks. That's why I find him irritating - most of his comments along the way were probably at the height of his fame best described as "zany". Perhaps funny in the 1970s but not today.

But perhaps he's more honest than other celebs taking part because he probably views his whole time in SCD as just an opportunity to boost his flagging career and sell more seats at his shows - rather than telling us "I'm on a journey" or "I love dancing" or "I want to find myself".

The off-colour final remark was just that - what I find some men of a certain age seem to think is an amusing comment about a younger very attractive female. Sadly they then don't seem to realise that it might have caused offence as they think the joke was self-deprecating rather than being at someone else's expense.

At least in private he had said to Ola that he had reservations about how it looks for an older married man to dance in an overly sexy way with a younger woman. So he's clearly not completely thick skinned about Ola's or his wife's feelings.

If you dance like that at ANY age, I'LL be complaining. And so will everyone else.

Aww come on, haven't you been to any weddings recently ?
I've seen plenty of 50 year olds far worse than Paul.
Not me, I hasten to add, my John Travolta (with a bit of Mick Jagger thrown in) impression is the stuff of legends..and I always thank my partner (victim) profusely at the end of our "session".

There you go - you thank your victim. You don't tell them your partner is away at the moment so would they fancy a quickie at your place, do you?

Please feel free not to answer that question.

PS I haven't seen anyone far worse than the Septic Gnome. But I'm biased, because I loathe him. And I'm usually too drunk at weddings to notice.

Precisely .! A small word of thanks never went astray and manners cost nothing . .

I'm no fan of PD, but felt quite sorry for him. It's obvious that being in that studio bought back alot of good memories for him, but he doesn't have the personality or charisma for a show like strictly. His comments to Craig Revel Horward, which by the way weren't that offensive show that his out of touch with the PC world of reality shows.

I also don't think he like OLA very much. He probably saw her as nothing more that a magician's assistant.

Maybe he was suggesting Ola come round so that they could carry on dancing...?

Why would he not say thank you most people on here are polite and from how he came across to me I have assumed that he has maners. You have no evidence that he hasn't !!

Being called names is a slagging off to me

The problem is, you have no evidence that he did. The only thing we know for certain is that on Saturday night he was asked did he want to say anything to Ola, and the clear inference was that that was the time to say thank you to her, or that he enjoyed dancing with her, or something along those lines. Instead he made an inappropriate joke which left many feeling uncomfortable, and may well have left Ola feeling the same.

I dont think people are discussing Pauls manners in the context of his life , but in the context of what we saw on Strictly , He may very well have manners , we have no evidence of that , but they were lacking on the show on Sunday .
He was given a good oportunity to have a little kind word to Ola and chose to make what some people see as a funny joke and others an inappropriate one . He failed to even say a little kind word on the phone on ITT .,
Perhaps he forgot in the heat of the moment on Sunday , but again on Monday he failed to even take two seconds to say " Thank you ,"

I have evidence that he's been given two obvious opportunities to do so, and that he's ignored both those opportunities. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for Saturday, but he ignored Claudia's heavy hint on Monday also, and he should have at least said "thank you" to Ola at that point.

So I definitely have evidence that he has not publically thanked her. Because he has not.

You, on the other hand, simply have a feeling that he may have thanked her privately.

See the difference?

My mum commented negatively on Paul's parting remarks at the time and I had to agree with her. It came across as pretty disgusting, whether Paul intended it to or not.

Whatever the context or whether it was intended as an innocent joke, it was just a totally inappropriate thing to say at that moment and made him look awful.

I was not surprised to see a thread criticising him on here. It was very much a case of saying the wrong thing at the wrong time.

I cringed when he said it and thought 'good riddance, then.' I think it was very inappropriate and disrespectful to his wife, and to Ola and James. Sure, it's a joke and all, but there's some jokes you really should have the sensitivity not to make. Imagine how you'd feel if your spouse was dancing with an absurdly gorgeous partner who was much, much younger than you, and you'd come out to publicly support them, and then his parting quip was a tacky 'joke' at your expense?

I was pretty ambivalent towards the silly old geezer up until that moment. Felt for his wife.

Yes, but they all flirt around, regardless of age..don't they ? In fact, generally the female celebs appear to be worse than their male counterparts in that respect.
I don't expect many men would care for their wives behaving like Pamela in "training"..but it probably doesn't bother Billy. These "showbiz" types are different to the rest of us, and probably have different boundaries as to what is "acceptable".
The problem with Paul Daniels is that he thought he was a bundle of laughs, and also quite popular..he was neither.

I dont see how anyone can find that offensive ( unless we have lost all sense of humour in this country) , its not like he had just met her he has spent weeks in very close quarters with his partner so they will have developed the type of friEndship where you can make such remarks and they are taken as they are meant , a joke, , he also said to her "love you lots " and hugged her onscreen when they were told they were leaving.

If we want to make something of lacks of ackowledgement maybe we could pick up on Claudias show where she said that Brendan would be away due to family matters, instead of saying he had lost his Dad and how the teams thoughts were with him.

there is nothing wrong with my sense of humour thank you and I did find it mildly offensive. With regard to brendan have you thought perhaps he didn't want people to know his father had died. When kelly's father died it was talked about perhaps Brendon did not want that

I think that was very much a case of saying what she was asked to say . Its Brendans chose to be private .
As for the remark from Paul . I have agreat sense of humour , love a laugh and a joke and I found it offensive to Ola and his wife .And more importantly his lack of a kind word was noticable .

Oh so we all have to have the same sense of humour now then? I did find it offensive, not horrifically offensive, but offensive to Ola, James and Debbie nonetheless. At the end of the day there is no substitute for manners, and Paul showed a lack of judgement in not using his at that moment in time.

And why on earth should Claudia have said Brendan's father died. It is entirely up to Brendan whether he wants that to be publically announced on the show, same as it was entirely Ann's decision not to have her brother's death mentioned. Have a little respect for their choice of privacy.

That will be why a Strictly spokesperson spoke to the press about it on Sunday then .

Noone said everyone had to have the same sense of humour but sorry people being offended over that remark which was a joke and not by Olgas husband asking Pamela to touch his backside deliberately on camera is to my mind double standards.

It's Ola, not Olga....

Pamela & James have that kind of banter, winding each other up. Maybe it's not to everyone's taste, but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as vulgar as what Paul said.. Paul's remark was tasteless, Pamela & James just being silly. They weren't talking at a point when they'd been asked did they have anything (i.e. a word of thanks) to say to their partner having just been knocked out of the competition. Two completely different situations, so it's nothing to do with double standards


Brendan may have asked for the one statement to be released to stop any rumours starting, and then asked for it not to be mentioned, why is that such a problem?

I wasn't horrified by Paul's comment or anything but it just came across as a bit sleazy.