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The fix is in -- Nadia will win
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Veri
05-07-2004
If you want a conspiracy theory that really sits up and shakes hands, reach for this one.

1. All of a sudden, Nadia is a likeable front runner. Why not before? One word: Marco.

Why were Jason and Victor allowed to get away with discussing nominations for so long? Because they would target Marco, and Macro was now a liability.

Why were they banned from nominating this week? Because they might continue to target Nadia.

(This was obviously a risky strategy, because Nadia was a target before. But if Nadia were voted out, BB could still go with some other HM. However, good research would have shown that Marco was more likely to exit.)

2. Now Becki. Even if she's not working for Big Brother, Big Brother knew what she was like. If she went in, she'd be someone Nadia could talk with, and it was likely that, in one way or another, there would be a conversation about transsexuals that made Nadia look good.

In the end, it worked better than they could have expected. Becki took on the most prejudiced housemates, got Victor at least to moderate his views, and repeatedly made or reinforced points that would reassure Nadia and make viewers think as well.

(Since Becki never had a chance to win, the only reason to pick her was the effects that she would have, and even those who hate Backi and disagree with what she did ought to admit that Nadia's position was improved as a result.)

3. The motive. This year's BB was designed, and the housemates selected, to make it ideal for the tabloids. Of all the housemates, Nadia would be the best winner from the "make the tabloids happy" point of view. (The only problem was, she wasn't very likeable.. That's now been fixed.)

Think about it. Sturat wins? Snore. Shell. Snore, snore. Dan? Too articulate, and probably won't cooperate. Michelle? She doesn't need to win to fit the tabloids' plans. Indeed, it's better if she's a hungrier. Vic, Jay, Ahm - no chance, and the tabloids wouldn't want them anyway.

4. The spin. BBLB's "find Nadia a man" is part. (Remember the one for Shameron last year?) Now watch the editing on C4 and E4. Does Nadia do any work around the house? (For example.) Sure didn't look like it. Cue scenes of Nadia cleaning and other housemates talking about it.

Watch for: A story line. (Nadia doesn't have a good one yet.)

(Am I serious? Well, partly. This makes at least as much sense as most of the conspiracy theories that make their way to on-line forums. And I get to be insufferably smug if Nadia does win.)
Snoopdog
05-07-2004
ok, I am with it so far - but just one question - WHY??
chocolatekisses
05-07-2004
ahh - that was like a coffee break read.

you should write mini feel good stories for bella or best.
ebjeebe
05-07-2004
Nadia has always been likeable in my opinion. She was just eclipsed by the moron marco. I agree that she is a good tabloid story and I am pleased that her situation has been highlighted to a point because it shows the injustice that transexuals receive from people such as Victor and indeed narrow minded people on this forum (I mean the people that still insist on calling her a 'he' - which she is not).

Transexuals are people that the vast majority of people still think it's funny to point and laugh at and call freaks (my partner included) and that's unfair.

In my opinion, if BB has highlighted a HM to win, it's stuart. He has the face (if you like that sort of thing ) and comes across as the 'nice bloke' (which I still don't believe he is).
Mykonos
05-07-2004
Interesting post......unlikely,but no more unlikely than some of the speculation that appears here.
ArtyAttack
05-07-2004
I have been saying this all along. All the Dan, Stu conspiracies are wrong. We are seeing far more of Nadia in the DR than anyone else lately. She is baring her soul to us the viewers and we are on her side all the way. We feel for her when the others are talking about her in a roundabout way. Bringing Becki in, who is privy to her secret, only promotes Nadia further. The camera always goes to her at just the right moment when she looks the most uncomfortable. Her bad moods in the past when she had no cigarettes have been quickly forgotten. BB love promoting issues and to have a transexual win the competition would be a first. The tabloids would love this too. Nadia will do very well by selling her story when she emerges victorious.
We wont get a trip to South Africa for Nadia but we are getting an emotional journey that producers simply love.
threecheeses
05-07-2004
There is no fix and you have no right to feel smug if Nadia wins. I myself and most people I know have liked Nadia from the first week I think she is funny and a very likeable person compared to most of the others we find her entertaining. Most people I know don't go on forums or go down the bookies to bet on anyone and I'm sure there are thousands like us. Just because the odds have gone down and the polls up just means some people have only just 'got' her and what shes really like and those that already had decided to join in the voting. I for one will not feel smug should she win even though I and many others have liked her from the start.
Also your'e being very ignorant of the general public to think we can all be moulded in such a way to make a certain HM our favourite.
Veri
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by ebjeebe:
“In my opinion, if BB has highlighted a HM to win, it's stuart. He has the face (if you like that sort of thing ) and comes across as the 'nice bloke' (which I still don't believe he is).”

It's important to the perceived success of BB, and probably to the viewing figures as well, to have the tabloids enthusiastic about BB. Nadia is the best winner from that point of view, IMO. (See the part about motive above.)
ebjeebe
05-07-2004
Just noticed you mentioned about Nadia's moods when she couldn't have any cigarettes. She was a bit of a stroppy cow wasn't she? But Dear God, take away my fags and the world colapses! I liked her for it, it was a natural reaction and so much like me!
Veri
05-07-2004
Good points all, ArtyAttack.

And woo, you're right that some have liked Nadia from the start. But not enough. Notice how her odds have changed recently. A lot of people have started liking her more as well.
Dan Fortesque
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by woo:
“There is no fix and you have no right to feel smug if Nadia wins. I myself and most people I know have liked Nadia from the first week I think she is funny and a very likeable person compared to most of the others we find her entertaining. Most people I know don't go on forums or go down the bookies to bet on anyone and I'm sure there are thousands like us. Just because the odds have gone down and the polls up just means some people have only just 'got' her and what shes really like and those that already had decided to join in the voting. I for one will not feel smug should she win even though I and many others have liked her from the start.
Also your'e being very ignorant of the general public to think we can all be moulded in such a way to make a certain HM our favourite.”

I agree. Nadia is probably the most entertaining and most likeable housemate in there.
ArtyAttack
05-07-2004
The exact same thing happened with Cameron last year. His odds started to improve dramatically at the halfway point.
Veri
05-07-2004
I'm watching E-Forum now. Their edit of the transsexual conversation was designed to make Becki look bad (all Becki haters will love what they've done) and Nadia good.

BTW, another advantage from the conspiracy theory point of view about Marco being out is that he will poison minds (or at least try to) in ways that will help Nadia (whereas, while in the house, he was harming her chances).
Stewing
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by Snoopdog:
“ok, I am with it so far - but just one question - WHY?? ”

Ditto to that..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Veri
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by woo:
“Also your'e being very ignorant of the general public to think we can all be moulded in such a way to make a certain HM our favourite.”

The public has to go by what they see on tv (controlled by the makers of the show) and read (which is largely up to the press).

Moreover, people often behave in predictable ways, and the makers of Big Brother have years of experience of how audiences react.
Stewing
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by starship54:
“I agree. Nadia is probably the most entertaining and most likeable housemate in there.”

Not sure I agree- but what on earth is her future if she wins..? Once the tabloids have used and abised her and spat her out..then what...
To be honest I have no taken that much notice of her..what are her plans ..do you konw..? I am being genuine in this Q not sarcastic...as I have not listened or taken notice or read..
Veri
05-07-2004
BTW, I am not saying Nadia was the show's favourite from the start. They had to see how audiences reacted and how things developed in the house.

Perhaps they were just lucky that Macro went out and it helped Nadia's popularity so much. Maybe they were just lucky with Becki was well.

But that doesn't mean they won't take advantage of what happened to try to get a good ending.

BB5 has been a success up to now. They won't want it to become dull at the end, and they will want the winner's victory to be a good story in itself. "Winsome blonde art student wins BB", for example, just doesn't do it.
chocolatekisses
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by Stewing:
“Not sure I agree- but what on earth is her future if she wins..? Once the tabloids have used and abised her and spat her out..then what...
To be honest I have no taken that much notice of her..what are her plans ..do you konw..? I am being genuine in this Q not sarcastic...as I have not listened or taken notice or read..”

i think she just wants to find lurve
GonzoTheGreat
05-07-2004
Originally Posted by woo:
“Also your'e being very ignorant of the general public to think we can all be moulded in such a way to make a certain HM our favourite.”

Erm, have we actually been watching the same show ? *cough* Jade, Cameron, */cough*

Why Nadia? It's cos she's a transexual innit? Endemol UK would have the first big brother to be won by a "chick with a dick" (or not in this case). A blonde winning has been done in just about every country, as has the hunk or the hardworking man. This would guarantee them thousands of column inches and also give the show back some education/socialogical support which might help get em commisioned again next year.
robbies_gal
05-07-2004
i dont see it as a fix-yes they could target nadia but they can do that next week and every week until the final bb cant stop them

maybe shes now seen as a fave because of her personality maybe?
starry
05-07-2004
earmarked for the final, but Stuart is the chosen one to win
Tickle_Disciple
05-07-2004
It did cross my mind that preventing the boys from nominating now could have a dual purpose, first to show they were being punished and secondly to spare either Nadia or Becky from nomination. I'm not sure if Ahmed was allowed to nominate!
ludovica
05-07-2004
The show is fixed for Stu to win...
anna123
05-07-2004
so what if they are wanting nadia to win!! To be honest she deserves to win!!! If nadia or michelle or victor were to win i'd be happy coz inmy opinion they have been th emost entertaining...
michelle has has brilliant moments from her classic bedsit moments with emma, mud wrestling fights, funny moments with marco and nadia and her roamnce with stu
Nadia has had brilliant moments from her comedy moments with marco and michelle, the pain shes had to go thro in her life and the fact shes having to hide her "secret " from the ohusemates. Shes also really funny and friendly
And Victor has had some entertainng moments in the house and the stuf he comes out with in the diary room i might not always agree with but u've gotta laugh at him ( i doubt hes as bad as he wants us to belive) i think it'd be a shame if he went before the final week!
threecheeses
06-07-2004
Your'e so cynical my personal favourite is Nadia for reasons of my own I watch on E4 not highlights I like her and I don't read the tabloids so have no interest in column inches!!!!!!!!!!! I watch the good and bad of all.
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