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Be fit in a week or you're out
Paace
18-10-2010
I think that rule is too harsh for a celeb who is genuinely sick. I doubt poor Tina will be fit and ready to train next mon.

They should make it a 2 week rule with no exceptions.
Tall Paul
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“I think that rule is too harsh for a celeb who is genuinely sick. I doubt poor Tina will be fit and ready to train next mon.

They should make it a 2 week rule with no exceptions.”

Or chuck in a standby lol.
DavidJames
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“I think that rule is too harsh for a celeb who is genuinely sick. I doubt poor Tina will be fit and ready to train next mon.

They should make it a 2 week rule with no exceptions.”

Why 2? Why not 10, while you're at it? Hell, why not give everyone with a cold a free pass to the finals?

It's unfair to the other celebs to let someone avoid the chance of elimination for several weeks.
Caramel Crunch
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by Paace:
“I think that rule is too harsh for a celeb who is genuinely sick. I doubt poor Tina will be fit and ready to train next mon.

They should make it a 2 week rule with no exceptions.”

I think one week is more than fair.
breppo
18-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Why 2? Why not 10, while you're at it? Hell, why not give everyone with a cold a free pass to the finals?

It's unfair to the other celebs to let someone avoid the chance of elimination for several weeks.”

My thoughts exactly. One week is fair enough.
Abbasolutely 40
18-10-2010
What about poor Jade last year ? They should have waited the 3 months till her knee was better .
Paddie1983
18-10-2010
Naaaa - that could mean a bye from before the QF's right through to the final.
black_vine
18-10-2010
But with chicken pox you are sent off school/work for 2 weeks so I think they should say 2wks in this case.
BuddyBontheNet
18-10-2010
I'm happy with the current rule. Best to keep things simple.
Boothy20
19-10-2010
I don't think it's going to be a problem. Her tweets indicate that she's back training today. It could be a tester for the make-up department, though. Covering all the spots.
Cheryl423
19-10-2010
If Tina is generally in good health, then Chicken Pox in adulthood isn't usually too serious, unless it develops into Shingles which is an altogether more unpleasant thing. A week might be enough time to recover if she hasn't had many symptoms but I wouldn't have thought early training would be a good idea as it's so rigorous on Strictly. I hope she doesn't come back with a poor routine - they have been doing so well. And I hope she doesn't push herself too hard and increase the risk of Shingles. But I dare say that the show doctors and her own medics will be keeping a close eye on her. Remember Jade ? Who really wanted to dance despite everyone telling her not to. They refused to let her. So I think there is good advice on the show.
21stCenturyBoy
19-10-2010
We could soon make a series of our own with people who were forced/ reluctantly chose to withdraw

Jade & Ian
John & Kristina
Kelly & Brendan
Jimmy & Flavia
21stCenturyBoy
19-10-2010
I would like a replacement though- that strategy happens on Dancing With The Stars (they have standby's all season ready to jump in and join). Season 6, for example, the standby's were Nia Peeples and Aaron Carter.
kaycee
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by black_vine:
“But with chicken pox you are sent off school/work for 2 weeks so I think they should say 2wks in this case.”

School maybe, but not work .... unless you are very lucky!

The time when you are most contagious is just before the spots appear - in other words,even though you might not feel too good, it's before you even know you have CP. Once the spots are out and start to look bad, you are unlikely to be contagious. You just look pretty awful, which is why some schools (not all of them) insist kids stay away until the spots start to fade. If Jared hasn't had CP himself, then he should start checking the mirror sort of around now!
Sallyforth
19-10-2010
As I have said on another thread, I had chickenpox at age 37, was quite poorly and was advised to stay away from work by my doctor for two weeks. I certainly would not have been back on my feet as quickly as Tina, although of course she is not much more than half that age.
workshylady
19-10-2010
I had it at 12, so not really a child as such but not an adult either and I was really bad with it. Blisters on the soles of my feet, too painful to lie in the bath, terrible headaches and just feeling very very unwell. Looks like Tina has had it fairly mild. Hope she will be back, the footage of her rumba shown on ITT last night looked fab!
kaycee
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“As I have said on another thread, I had chickenpox at age 37, was quite poorly and was advised to stay away from work by my doctor for two weeks. I certainly would not have been back on my feet as quickly as Tina, although of course she is not much more than half that age.”

That is a fair comment, and I think doctors will sometimes suggest a longer break to recover, not because of risk of infecting others, but because you can feel so low and might well end up picking up something else. But it can depend on the job you are doing as well .... performers will often recover far quicker than someone stuck in a boring office or factory (for example) simply because they so love what they are doing, they just want to get back to it. A dancer friend of mine badly damaged his knee while working (dancing) on the QE2. He was helicoptered to New York; had keyhole surgery to repair the damage, and back dancing a week later. Someone else I heard about had the same op, but was off work for over a month.... Mind over matter perhaps?
Camis
19-10-2010
I think the week rule is fair enough - everyone knows where they stand with that.

As for Tina, I was surprised at how well she looked in the clip on Saturday night. It may be that she has got it quite mildly, in which case as long as the spots have healed over there is no reason why she can't take part.
skimpy_scampi
19-10-2010
I've had adult chickenpox and was given tablets to help
stop the spots developing and although I felt a bit grotty
at least I wasn't too itchy and scratchy.
Sallyforth
19-10-2010
[quote=kaycee; it can depend on the job you are doing as well .... performers will often recover far quicker than someone stuck in a boring office or factory (for example) simply because they so love what they are doing, they just want to get back to it. .. Mind over matter perhaps?[/QUOTE]

I've no wish to turn the thread into a political or economic debate, but in that context, whether you get paid or not might drive you back to work sooner rather than later, and perhaps sometimes before you have truly recovered.

I don't know the arrangements for SCD in this light and I'm not suggesting in coming back now Tina's only thinking of the money, but it must be tough sometimes if you earn your living in such a conditional way (not that there's much in the way of secure work in any sector these days).
LazySusan
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“That is a fair comment, and I think doctors will sometimes suggest a longer break to recover, not because of risk of infecting others, but because you can feel so low and might well end up picking up something else. But it can depend on the job you are doing as well .... performers will often recover far quicker than someone stuck in a boring office or factory (for example) simply because they so love what they are doing, they just want to get back to it. A dancer friend of mine badly damaged his knee while working (dancing) on the QE2. He was helicoptered to New York; had keyhole surgery to repair the damage, and back dancing a week later. Someone else I heard about had the same op, but was off work for over a month.... Mind over matter perhaps?”


Well talking about knees, Phill Tuffnell had a knee op in the middle of the series last year and danced on.

Whilst I can see what the OP is getting at it really wouldn't be fair on all the other celebs is someone had a bye for two weeks running so I will say the current 1 week is the fairest option.
Annied
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by 21stCenturyBoy:
“I would like a replacement though- that strategy happens on Dancing With The Stars (they have standby's all season ready to jump in and join). Season 6, for example, the standby's were Nia Peeples and Aaron Carter.”

Somewhat off topic (sorry), but I caught "Let's Dance", the German version of SCD earlier this year. (You'll never, hear me complain about SCD ever again!) There were the usual protestations of all the celebs being in love with dancing and no one wanting to leave. By week 3, one celeb had a bad knee injury and had no option but to withdraw. Another, a boxer, pulled out on the basis that he wasn't fully recovered from his previous fight. The guy who'd been eliminated in week 2 was invited back and he refused! They ended up bringing back the contestant who'd been eliminated in the first week.

Sorry though I'll be if Tina is eliminated, I think I prefer the SCD approach!
Paace
19-10-2010
I read that Tina was back in training today . I'm sure she must have had medical advice but that seems a bit too soon. Hope everything will be ok and she won't regret it further down the line.
Eugenie
19-10-2010
Originally Posted by DavidJames:
“Why 2? Why not 10, while you're at it? Hell, why not give everyone with a cold a free pass to the finals?

It's unfair to the other celebs to let someone avoid the chance of elimination for several weeks.”

Exactly.
The Swampster
20-10-2010
I have real mixed feelings about these byes. Obviously if someone is unfit to perform for whatever reason it seems a shame to dump them immediately but it also seems very unfair that someone who did the training, learned the dance and performed gets kicked off while another is never in danger of this.
As Paul went this week, I don't suppose anyone feels too bothered, but what if it had been someone else in the dangerous "middle" zone: say, Patsy, Felicity or Jimi?
Personally, if someone is getting a bye one week, I'd rather see nobody leave that week and two people going the following week - so there is no free pass given. I certainly wouldn't want to give people byes for two weeks.
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