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And what is wrong with making promises you cant keep? As LS said they wont see you again. What they should have done is like the supermarkets do, make a loss leader. Ask them what they want and at what price and only make and deliver what offers the highest profit. I dont think it was all or nothing.
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Paloma: God's gift to businesses
(according to Paloma)
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No you are not wrong that is a loss leader except sold at a loss not just for no profit. My idea was to 'fool' the customer that this is a 'cheap' store to be able to sell them dearer goods. To offer the hotel cheap prices on everything except some with high profit margins and then only deliver the high profit ones.
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No you are not wrong that is a loss leader except sold at a loss not just for no profit. My idea was to 'fool' the customer that this is a 'cheap' store to be able to sell them dearer goods. To offer the hotel cheap prices on everything except some with high profit margins and then only deliver the high profit ones.
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hate her
her voice her face everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I think that's a fairly charitable interpretation of what Shibby was doing.
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It's still a private conversation, and completely irrelevant to the task at hand and the boardroom.
It's not private if it's on camera. And it is relevant; the whole show is about evaluating the candidates. Paloma wasn't bitching, she was giving her evaluation to Shibby. She wanted to influence him.Quote:
If Paloma wants to express her opinion of Sandeesh then it's on her to do so, not for Shibby to start bringing up private bitching sessions.
??? There's no rule that says Shibby can't ask for other opinions. Paloma didn't have to answer as she did.
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Unfortunately I've come across many like her along the way. She will come a cropper before long though thankfully.
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And yours is uncharitable. He basically asked the same question many of us have asked, about a core task failure. He may have been expecting one of them to leap to Sandeesh's defence. Instead, Paloma started talking about her experience of Sandeesh on previous tasks, which was new to Shibby, as he'd always been on a different team.
It's not private if it's on camera. And it is relevant; the whole show is about evaluating the candidates. Paloma wasn't bitching, she was giving her evaluation to Shibby. She wanted to influence him. ??? There's no rule that says Shibby can't ask for other opinions. Paloma didn't have to answer as she did. I don't think it's relevant to bring up that sort of conversation in the boardroom. It's out-of-hours gossip, regardless of whether it was on camera or not. If Paloma wants to attack Sandeesh's attitude and past record in the Boardroom then that's on her. It's not for Shibby to share second-hand hearsay in the Boardroom. It's unprofessional and childish. |
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Dave, Dave, Dave...
![]() Yeah, she's gorgeous, but beauty is only skin deep. It wasn't so much that she lied in the boardroom, but it was the vehemence of her denial that rankled me. That and the fact that she sat there looking down her nose at Shibby. Arrogance is not becoming... Sandeesh sat there looking like a frightened rabbit for most of it, and when she did speak sounded unconvincing. I thought she looked genuinely shocked to still be there at the end. Shibby deserved to go, he dug himself into a hole in the boardroom and seemed happy to stay in it. The two girls' cards were well marked by Lord Sugar, though, Sandeesh in particular. Looking forward to next week's task. ![]() ![]() I didn't think Sandeesh looked frightened. When Shibby and Paloma were arguing over what Paloma had said about her, I think she looked positively amused! |
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Paloma must go
Apart from all that has been said previously about Paloma, her blatant lies, setting others up for the fall, promising orders that they could not deliver, offering £150 compensation to the hotel customer, I think if you look back at the previous episode she is the one who labels Joanna difficult when footage does not back it up. She is already shaking her head and informing opinion against Joanna from an early stage. She was also the first to gossip about Sandeesh so she is a vicious cow who I can't wait to see fired.
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She has fantastic makeup but I'd be terrified if I ever met her in real life.
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That's the very worst type of salesperson, let alone businessperson - it's counter-productive. I know from my own experience in business that I never, ever forget the name or face of someone polished and convincing who turms up and pitches their goods or services in a golden light and then turns out later to be a complete BS-er. The guy or girl who says Honestly I don't know, can I just find out, can I get back to you, could I have more time, more money or try for a smaller order or we'll try hard but I can't promise - that's the person you can work with.
Honesty is generally the best policy in business, lie only when you absolutely need to, and don't feel good about it. Paloma didn't need to deny she'd been negative about Sandeesh; she could have admitted that but softened it, but she lied because lying is second nature to her, in my view. |
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I've worked with Paloma
and I tell you she ain't a liar!
Quite the opposite- terribly upfront. What you see is what you get. watching the episode I am convinced she was tired and forgot about the quote. Also she's a sharp business lady. Can be fiesty for sure, but in business that is not a bad trait to have. I think she over-reacted to shibby not following through with the second deal however, from her point of view it was like we have baugettes back at the factory, le'ts sell them. In fact it was the only product the lazy manufacturing team had actually baked all day! For shibby to walk away entirely from the deal- I know would have pissed paloma off. Trust me though- she is not a 'blind' saleswoman and would never stupidily offer goods that she couldn't deliver on. You don't get to work for large multinationals at senior positions if u were that dumb. Wish you people would undersand the power of the editing suite tells the story it wants.... |
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and I tell you she ain't a liar!
Quite the opposite- terribly upfront. What you see is what you get. watching the episode I am convinced she was tired and forgot about the quote. Also she's a sharp business lady. Can be fiesty for sure, but in business that is not a bad trait to have. I think she over-reacted to shibby not following through with the second deal however, from her point of view it was like we have baugettes back at the factory, le'ts sell them. In fact it was the only product the lazy manufacturing team had actually baked all day! For shibby to walk away entirely from the deal- I know would have pissed paloma off. Trust me though- she is not a 'blind' saleswoman and would never stupidily offer goods that she couldn't deliver on. You don't get to work for large multinationals at senior positions if u were that dumb. Wish you people would undersand the power of the editing suite tells the story it wants.... |
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In fact it was the only product the lazy manufacturing team had actually baked all day!....
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Wish you people would undersand the power of the editing suite tells the story it wants....
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no-I'm an ex colleague of Paloma's
Look, I'm not saying she was easy to work with.
She was very driven & focused at work and good at sales and people like that can be mis understood. What I think is shitty is the character assesment you make about her which is sooooo totally influenced by the editing process. Trust me, she is actually really, really nice but terribly focused. Check out her Linked In credentials- she no muppet! |
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She was caught red-handed fibbing. She cant get out of that.
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Loona123 you claim to be an ex colleague of Paloma's. Six hours earlier you clamed to be working on the set.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1372329&page=2 message #39 So which is it? Or neither? |
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Loona123 you claim to be an ex colleague of Paloma's. Six hours earlier you clamed to be working on the set.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1372329&page=2 message #39 So which is it? Or neither? |
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Loona123 you claim to be an ex colleague of Paloma's. Six hours earlier you clamed to be working on the set.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1372329&page=2 message #39 So which is it? Or neither? That's what makes Paloma such a phenomenal business woman, her ability to multi task. |
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Tercet
That's what makes Paloma such a phenomenal business woman, her ability to multi task. In a previous series Sugar pointed out there's nothing worse than a busy fool. That's not original, but shows he certainly recognises the problem. He's not alone in that is he?
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Loona123 you claim to be an ex colleague of Paloma's. Six hours earlier you clamed to be working on the set.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1372329&page=2 message #39 So which is it? Or neither? |
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Perhaps a little harsh there dibbler2?
Paloma is hot, at least ![]() (Not that I believe Loona is Paloma, just a deluded fan). |
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Paloma is just too abrasive, too confrontational.
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