Originally Posted by Loona123:
“You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.”
“You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.”
And you have yet to convince me she is.
Paloma is too uptight for The Apprentice plus she is agressive
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Originally Posted by Loona123:
“and paloma's sale came to £7,000
so I'd argue that it was a good effort”
“and paloma's sale came to £7,000
so I'd argue that it was a good effort”
The sale was invalid.
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“do you honestly think someone like Paloma would only walk away with 25...?
Doubt it.
Sound descision to go with that retailer. They were the most committed to the product than any other they had visited that day.
It was Chris that F* it by making out it was such a big deal that it was 'exclusivity' that Nick & Sralan pick up on it.She didn't offer that in the end- she gave them a launch period of a few months.
You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.
How boring!”
“do you honestly think someone like Paloma would only walk away with 25...?
Doubt it.
Sound descision to go with that retailer. They were the most committed to the product than any other they had visited that day.
It was Chris that F* it by making out it was such a big deal that it was 'exclusivity' that Nick & Sralan pick up on it.She didn't offer that in the end- she gave them a launch period of a few months.
You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.
How boring!”
Has Paloma been keeping you in a little dungeon under the bbc studios since the series? Chained to a pc and forced to tap out messages of vociferous support?
You seem very impassioned in her defence. Either that or you're um... involved... (Lights blue touch paper, stands well back.)
"Paloma, your name means dove in Spanish but you've brought precious little peace to any team you've been on - in fact you're a boody liability.Paloma, you're fired"
Originally Posted by katiemack:
“I think if she's PM one week that's when she'll go I don't think she'll be a good PM she won't get the support of her team!”
“I think if she's PM one week that's when she'll go I don't think she'll be a good PM she won't get the support of her team!”
For a moment when you said ''PM'' I thought you meant Prime Minister!!! LOL
Poloma as Prime Minster, now that's a scary thought!!!
Originally Posted by worpler:
“"Paloma, your name means dove in Spanish but you've brought precious little peace to any team you've been on - in fact you're a boody liability.Paloma, you're fired"”
“"Paloma, your name means dove in Spanish but you've brought precious little peace to any team you've been on - in fact you're a boody liability.Paloma, you're fired"”
Paloma is TOO sweet for her. Personality and lookswise Morticia suits better
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“do you honestly think someone like Paloma would only walk away with 25...?
Doubt it.
Sound descision to go with that retailer. They were the most committed to the product than any other they had visited that day.
It was Chris that F* it by making out it was such a big deal that it was 'exclusivity' that Nick & Sralan pick up on it.She didn't offer that in the end- she gave them a launch period of a few months.
You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.
How boring!”
“do you honestly think someone like Paloma would only walk away with 25...?
Doubt it.
Sound descision to go with that retailer. They were the most committed to the product than any other they had visited that day.
It was Chris that F* it by making out it was such a big deal that it was 'exclusivity' that Nick & Sralan pick up on it.She didn't offer that in the end- she gave them a launch period of a few months.
You still can't convince me that Paloma is not good.She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.
How boring!”
Are you Paloma, or Paloma's mum?!
She's crap and really nasty. She doesn't come across as a competent business person to me, just a gobby, inflexible amateur.
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“seriously- what a cheek!
competence- it was Paloma who saved Shibby in task 3
When Shibby called to tellt he team about Paloma's whopping order they freaked out and said they had only been baking baugettes and muffins all day.
So in second meeting- Paloma was pushing hard to sell those bauguettes & managed to change their mind from paninis and ciabattas.
Shibby crapped his pants, had a melt down and called the whole deal off.
Turned out they ended up with excess baugettes on Day2 they couldn't get rid off and had to give away for free.
How is Paloma incompetent?!
Last night she came up with the idea of going to Soho to sell the t-shirts as the other 2 numpties didn't have a clue.
She didn't offer nationwide exclusivity-she offered 2 streets within soho a defnite time period. Hardly what I call exclusivity.
She totally smashed it- again on the sales front. Her decision to keep this over & above Sandeesh's made sense because it was a significantly larger order & that team was going to be judged on final sales figures for the day.
Seriously get a life Paloma is incompetent.
She is the only one that has the balls to go for the sales & make descisions as numpties around her whinge & moan.”
“seriously- what a cheek!
competence- it was Paloma who saved Shibby in task 3
When Shibby called to tellt he team about Paloma's whopping order they freaked out and said they had only been baking baugettes and muffins all day.
So in second meeting- Paloma was pushing hard to sell those bauguettes & managed to change their mind from paninis and ciabattas.
Shibby crapped his pants, had a melt down and called the whole deal off.
Turned out they ended up with excess baugettes on Day2 they couldn't get rid off and had to give away for free.
How is Paloma incompetent?!
Last night she came up with the idea of going to Soho to sell the t-shirts as the other 2 numpties didn't have a clue.
She didn't offer nationwide exclusivity-she offered 2 streets within soho a defnite time period. Hardly what I call exclusivity.
She totally smashed it- again on the sales front. Her decision to keep this over & above Sandeesh's made sense because it was a significantly larger order & that team was going to be judged on final sales figures for the day.
Seriously get a life Paloma is incompetent.
She is the only one that has the balls to go for the sales & make descisions as numpties around her whinge & moan.”
Hell, you said it!
No I haven't altered the quote, that is what you wrote.
Maybe your sub-conscious is trying to tell you something...
Originally Posted by Evil Genius:
“Hell, you said it!
No I haven't altered the quote, that is what you wrote.
Maybe your sub-conscious is trying to tell you something...”
“Hell, you said it!
No I haven't altered the quote, that is what you wrote.
Maybe your sub-conscious is trying to tell you something...”
Good one!
No idea why a handful of people want to defend this incompetent nobody.
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“and paloma's sale came to £7,000
so I'd argue that it was a good effort”
“and paloma's sale came to £7,000
so I'd argue that it was a good effort”
It wasnt a good "effort" at all, as she had no right to grant ANY form of exclusivity without the permission of the manafacturer.
And "argue" all you like, Paloma sold NOTHING at all....
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Until all your sales were cancelled due to enethical business practice.
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Making promises you can't deliver on, losing money and disappointing clients and customers?
No, that's what business is about for Paloma.
Quote:
“Paloma was right to make her judgement. It was her idea to go to Soho in the first place, while the others tagged along for the ride. And it proved to be a lucrative decsion in the end.”
“Paloma was right to make her judgement. It was her idea to go to Soho in the first place, while the others tagged along for the ride. And it proved to be a lucrative decsion in the end.”
Until all your sales were cancelled due to enethical business practice.
Quote:
“Typical, when strong & decisive people are balsy enough to make descisions, they get executed for it.
That is what busines is about ![/”
“Typical, when strong & decisive people are balsy enough to make descisions, they get executed for it.
That is what busines is about ![/”
QUOTE]
Making promises you can't deliver on, losing money and disappointing clients and customers?
No, that's what business is about for Paloma.
Originally Posted by sezzie:
“Good one!
No idea why a handful of people want to defend this incompetent nobody.”
“Good one!
No idea why a handful of people want to defend this incompetent nobody.”
I don't think Paloma is as good as she thinks she is. I have been inclined to defend her though over all the ranting about her boardroom "lie" the other weke; we don't really know she was consciously lying rather than forgetting, and if she was lying it was one almost eveyone would have told in the circumstances, as no-one wants their bitching about colleagues dragged up in front of them.
She made a mistake over the exclusivity and is probably a bit too argumentative, but she's still better than some of the others that are left, and I don't see this thing about her being an unpleasant person.
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“Have any of you run a distribution company?! Clearly not.
Paloma was right to make her judgement. It was her idea to go to Soho in the first place, while the others tagged along for the ride. And it proved to be a lucrative decsion in the end.
She gave that retailer an exclusuvie period within a few streets in Soho for a limited time period. Unless I am suffering from brain damage, that is not exclusivity! Which she was trying to point out to Chris. And in a distrbution scenario if she feels that was a good deal within the area (don't forget these guys were working the streets for hours that day) then good on her for securing it.
Typical, when strong & decisive people are balsy enough to make descisions, they get executed for it.
That is what busines is about !”
“Have any of you run a distribution company?! Clearly not.
Paloma was right to make her judgement. It was her idea to go to Soho in the first place, while the others tagged along for the ride. And it proved to be a lucrative decsion in the end.
She gave that retailer an exclusuvie period within a few streets in Soho for a limited time period. Unless I am suffering from brain damage, that is not exclusivity! Which she was trying to point out to Chris. And in a distrbution scenario if she feels that was a good deal within the area (don't forget these guys were working the streets for hours that day) then good on her for securing it.
Typical, when strong & decisive people are balsy enough to make descisions, they get executed for it.
That is what busines is about !”
YOU are Paloma aren't you??!!
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“YOU are Paloma aren't you??!!”
“YOU are Paloma aren't you??!!”
That would explain the lack of personablybilityness in the posts.
No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
If you think that Paloma is brilliant in Her industry I suggest you change the "a" in your username to a "y."
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
I don't believe that Paloma has shown any 'Brilliance' in any task as yet. She had her 'sale' of 'Bloater vests' disallowed by M'lud Sugar, yet you persist in saying that she is an excellent salesperson and that it was an acceptable deal.....it wasn't, as Lord Al disallowed it.
It has a similar ring to me standing on a freezing touchline last sunday morning watching Mr Jeebie kick a pigs bladder around for 90 minutes. He scored from outside of the area, a reasonable strike into the top left hand corner, his 'goal' was disallowed by the referee for offside. Should his goal still be counted? Will the local paper print the result as a 3-2 win to his side rather than the 2-2 draw that it was?Will they praise him as a goal scoring machine?
I'm sorry to have to oversimplify for you, but the words 'disallowed' 'No sale' 'Not counted' when uttered by his lordship tend to mean exactly that.
She hardly covered herself in glory previously when she sold bread rolls that could not be delivered to the customer.
I would suggest that the average sales rookie would have it drummed into them on day 1 of their sales career that the very worst thing that you can do for a customer is to "overpromise and underdeliver", a modicum of common sense suggests that the customer will be a customer no more.
I admire your rabid defence of your friend in the same way that you see families supporting their tone deaf and tuneless offspring competing for a place on the X factor.
Unlike you, my vision is not restricted by the wearing of rose tinted spectacles, I have no axe to grind with your friend, i am impartial. She simply doesn't cut it for me, primarily due to her poor grasp of the art of selling and also due to her very, very poor interpersonal sensitivity, which means she fails to build any rapport or empathy with her colleagues on the show, she alienates herself with her aggressive stance and her inflexibility. Just my opinion, but I think she has already been rumbled by the bearded one and will depart the show very soon, probably after a disastrous stint as a PM
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
“No I'm an ex colleague
know how brilliant she is in her industry
so easy to hide behind a computer and be nasty
much harder to put yourself out there and give things a go in life!”
So you're now an ex colleague? So if you're in an ex colleague how were you with her during the task? I'm guessing if you know she's "brilliant in her industry" then it's not from working on the show you know her.
Ex colleague? lol - the amount of rubbish spewed up on the internet is always entertaining. Hats off to Loona123, wouldn't have the board any other way.
Originally Posted by Loona123:
“She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.”
“She has been the only one that is willing to put her neck on the line time & time again- like any other confident business person I know.Everyone else sits back like wall flowers and then moans & criticizes other for making decisions.”
Although she hasn't actually put herself forwards to be project manager yet, has she? Whereas even drippy, useless Laura has put her neck on the line like that.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“Although she hasn't actually put herself forwards to be project manager yet, has she? Whereas even drippy, useless Laura has put her neck on the line like that.”
“Although she hasn't actually put herself forwards to be project manager yet, has she? Whereas even drippy, useless Laura has put her neck on the line like that.”
Though to be fair, neither have Sandeesh, Liz, Stuart, Christopher or Alex.
Originally Posted by DavetheScot:
“Though to be fair, neither have Sandeesh, Liz, Stuart, Christopher or Alex.”
“Though to be fair, neither have Sandeesh, Liz, Stuart, Christopher or Alex.”
Ok true as far as we know. Still, there's something about this series that makes me think, whoah task 4? Feels like Task 6!
Maybe it's taking out the obvious t*ssers earlier on. Still feels like we are crashing thru it though
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