Same, I just thought it was appalling.

I am usually a big fan of Len but even I had to admit him giving Ann 7 was madness. However maybe the nicer the judges are to Ann they think the viewers may not vote Ann back? (ooh a conspiracy I know )

However on the topic of Jimi, I really thought his dance was marked about right. His cane sequence was out of time. I noticed it immediately and commented on it here at home. I would have put Jimi's marks as being about right every week to be honest. I've agreed with the judges on where they have criticised Jimi in other dances too.

Nice chap, very enthusiastic and clearly having a great time but maybe sometimes slightly over-enthusiastic in his dancing. Toning it down a little might bring him more control.

I just hope Jimmi takes the time to look at the forums to keep his spirits up! I could understand the judges comments about his Rhumba, but I thought the Charleston was supposed to be less technical and more about energy and fun which he had by the truckload.

Don't worry, we keep him uptodate on Twitter!

I'll try tweeting Jimi and Flavia a link to this thread

We don't often agree (), but I think you are spot on with this.

Sorry to all the Jimmi and Flavia fans, but I don't think Jimmi is being undermarked. They did suffer from being the first couple out, but that's normal.

Jimmi is not a great dancer and he never will be. He's great to watch, but he can't get through a routine without making a mistake, losing his timing, or losing his posture or form.

I'll get flamed for saying this, but I honestly think Jimmi has the same problem as Michelle in that he is too loose limbed i.e. he cannot keep control of his posture or his limbs for the duration of the dance. Of course, Jimmi is a much better dancer than Michelle, but the problem is basically the same - he has no real muscle strength to call on to get him all the way through a routine.

Jimmi will finish 5th or 6th and that's about right imho.

I don't think he has been consistently undermarked- I thought his Rumba was very poor for example and got a perfectly acceptable score. I think he was undermarked tonight though- just relative to the others, not in absolute terms. I would have thought it fine for him to get 27, if Michelle had got less than that, and Tina, Patsy and Felicity had also got the same or less.

The 7 for Ann was ludicrous. Ken does wind me up this series. Er, I mean Len.

However, I thought Jimi's attitude in the VT was arrogant and his dance poor, I find him rather dull as a dancer.

The whole "conspiracy to deliberately undermark" someone always seems profoundly unlikely to me. And even if it were true, it would only be to generate furore, splutter and interest :yawn: in the programme. It's not like Mr. Mistry's career/life/eternal happiness depends on him being fairly marked on a dance show or not.

No, but he and Flavia work extremely hard during the week, so they deserve to be marked/ranked fairly. Otherwise all the hours of training they put in feels pointless.

But Sid they all work hard in the week. It is the performance that the judges mark though.

I didn't watch the VT... you mean they stopped having hilarious non-stop FUN?

A seven from Len for Ann - and a seven for Jimi, as has been said. Not only that he's been told previously that he looked like a scarecrow and also that he's like a nervous wreck. Of course, he's being undermarked.
No man, will get through to the final by being praised to the level they deserve by the judges. The exception is Scott, who they treat as if he has already won. It's not his fault, he works hard and he's very good but the bias is getting very tiresome, now.

Jimi's dances have been distinctly mid table IMO, and that is where he is being marked. Seems pretty fair to me!

Absolutely Buddy, which is why I'd like to see them all marked fairly because they've all put the work in. I just didn't see that tonight where Jimi and Flavia were concerned. Their routine was picked apart by the judges who tiptoed around other couples that followed. And I do try to be objective (even where my favs are concerned!).

I appreciate that others see things differently though.

I do think Len giving a 7 to Ann was an insult to all the couples, but especially to those who also got 7 or less because nobody was worse than Ann tonight. To put Ann the same level as Felicity, Jimmi, Michelle, Tina, Gavin and even Peter, must be demoralising for them and I hope they don't believe it to be true.

I would put him in 5th place after Matt, Scott, Pamela and Kara in terms of ability and don't really think he'll get much higher than that....but I would definitely rank him higher than Felicity, Tina, Michelle, Peter, Gavin and Patsy, so I'd say he merits a slightly higher than mid table place.

I do think he is severely criticised though for things that are brushed over for some of the others which is pretty unfair to me.

I agree with all this!

Quote: Originally Posted by Dilly 1I would put him in 5th place after Matt, Scott, Pamela and Kara in terms of ability and don't really think he'll get much higher than that....but I would definitely rank him higher than Felicity, Tina, Michelle, Peter, Gavin and Patsy, so I'd say he merits a slightly higher than mid table place.

I do think he is severely criticised though for things that are brushed over for some of the others which is pretty unfair to me.
I agree with all this!

Me too
P.s don't know if this will appear in multiple quote boxes as I'm not sure how to do that

He's better than Pamela. Infinitely better than Pamela.

The problem that the show has is that the best four dancers comprise of three males and only one female.

Pamela's being promoted above her station to even the balance, and Jimi's the casualty. Not fair.

I'm sorry but that's just not true. While occasionally overmarked, Pamela is a beautiful dancer - graceful and elegant, in full control of her limbs and has the capacity, while dancing, to add that extra bit of sparkle. Jimi is lucky if he can get through the routine without making a mistake, losing what little posture he began with and undulating his body in ways that do not at all suit the dance. He has rhythm but that's about it. I get we all have favourites (and Pamela is not mine BTW) but to ignore the truth of the situation to make our favourites look better isn't fair on the good dancers IMO.

Nor do I - I cannot stand Ann and Anton I watch SCD for dancing.
I was quoting what we are told all the time and on these forums - it is as entertainment show thats why I said if you like that sort of thing - I do not!!

I really like Jimi and Flavia but I am sorry he is not better than Pamela so far- that might change but its not so far.

She has had really good technique and musicality- tonight was not her best performance but its the worst of a great bunch of dances.

Jimi needs to work on his core and then his frame and his scores will increase. His performance is good but not so much his technique.

Agree with what you have said there - but you have said it so much better than I would!!

Jimi's not my favourite at all, although I enjoy his energy. He's 4th in the fancynancy pecking order!

There's an awful lot to admire about Pamela, but to me she is in no way graceful, nor elegant. She has a heaviness about her which at times almost translates to clumsiness.

To me, there is a soupcon of a galumph about many of Pamela's dances. It's not conspicuous - but it certainly isn't absent.

What about Ann always been left towards the end? Shouldn't others get a chance to perform then? What about Jimi and Flavia being criticised for a few seconds spent faffing around at a window, and Ann is praised for hanging inertly from the ceiling with as much grace as an anaesthetised elephant? Unfortunately, Ann is obviously the one being pimped out by the BBC, and whilst I don't think Jimi is one of the best there, certainly he and others must surely fear the probability of being eliminated to Ann's profit.

I think Jimi has been fairly marked throughout - he is an OK dancer and generally gets put mid table or at his best (foxtrot) he was 5th but he is certainly nowhere near the standard of the top 4 dancers.