That's good to hear as his remarks about being the saviour of Welsh rugby, when and if he returns, haven't gone down well in the press in Wales!

Gee some people have no sense of humour. And I don't mean that everyone has to enjoy every type of humour, but surely they should be able to recognise it when they hear it!

Only time will tell if Gavin can make a breakthrough on the show, but I disagree that he is a terrible dancer. His inhibition is holding him back, I really believe he can dance if he lets himself - unlike say a Peter Shilton who even going all out for it was truly terrible.

Get over yourself ,as Gavin would say! Sheesh, I'm actually pleased he's coming across as less than arrogant as he's portrayed.! I'm only saying that the opinion of what has been printed in the Welsh press after his interview here is not good! Where did I agree that he has no sense of humour, or that I have for that matter?.

Don't bother to answer. I won't be coming back to you.

Can I just come on briefly to attack Gavin, as this is (going by the title) an 'attack Gavin' thread? He has a crap hairstyle, he can't dance, and he really disappointed me by making out all week on ITT that he was actually going to be good this time - I believed him, he sounded so convincing - oh, what a let-down!

don't blame katya, she got lazy boy phil tufnell to dance better than this chump.
Gavin minced through the first groupdance like he was wearing a nappy
it’s a miracle that katya got one good dance out of him!

he shouldn’t even be worried about matt and scott he will never be in their league he should be more worried about competition from Ann she’s getting really good.. hahaha

Well Gavin is not going to wow the viewers or the judges with his dancability and that seems certain.

Ashamedly, I decided from the off that I wasn't going to like Gavin because I liked Charlotte Church, therefore believing all the negative comments I had read about him.

HOWEVER, I think he has a humongous problem with shyness, awkwardness and self-consciousness. I think for what its worth that he is a really nice lad who needs to losen up and find some way of overcoming these characteristics.

I would even venture a guess that his self-consciousness had a significant impact on his relationship with Charlotte who we all know is outgoing and extrovert, completely the opposite to Gavin. What's to say that despite being a rugby hunk he probably felt immasculated/introverted by the big personality that is Charlotte.

Having read news reports about his drunken antics in various papers I have now veered from believing him just a bit dim/deluded (Gavin, you really aren't good-looking and you can't dance) to thinking him an complete and utter t0ss-pot.

So I don't rate his dancing and believe him to be, by all independent accounts, a thoroughly disreputable fellow. No votes from me.

The judges don't complain about his footwork, hands, arms, posture, hold, flexed knees ( tango), accuracy of steps or similar. Most of the criticism seems to be about facial expression or lack of. It's then very easy to jump on the bandwagon and say that he's a terrible, dancer and should leave the competition immediately.
There seems to be less animosity about Ann, complete with flying harness and being dragged around at speed, by Anton.

I'm Welsh and his lack lustre attitude and his total lack of emotion has left me and many of my Welsh friends cold.

I've seen more movement in a scrummage machine.

He's not endearing he's just pig ignorant with a belief that his good looks will get him through when all else fails.

Well, I do hope when he's kicked out he lands in my bed.

Are you kidding me?

The "some people" I referred to were the Welsh press, not you, silly

Absolutely agree - Really, really can't stand him - have watched 71 degrees north and hated the sarcasm, directed to the older contestants in particular.

I just don't understand how people can say he's shy when he has come over so arrogant and vain on both shows.

Nasty, humourless, talentless piece of work and sorry, but is,in no way, good loking or sexy.

Just the opinion of an oldie and I know many won't agree.

GG xx

PS Sorry forgot to mention the dancing - Wooden, Stiff and Emotionless. Why do people prefer Ann & Anton? Easy - it might not be good dancing, but they have worked hard to be entertaining, Gavin and Katya are by far the least entertaining of the whole bunch and almost look bored and disinterested.

dont like him either. hope he goes next week

Sorry, but where's the "blatant homophobia" mentioned earlier?

I'm loving the comments by people who are judging him on tabloid headlines and short VTs.

I'm wondering about this too, could someone enlighten me please?

Unless it refers to the episode of 71 where he asked for a calf massage instead of full-body? Made some comment like, "Nothing fruity here, butt." 'Butt' being the Welsh word for 'mate'.

For some people, not wanting a full-body massage by a male masseur is evidence of "blatant homophobia".
Nothing to do with him only having half an hour, having tight calves and a history of injuries there, no, not at all.
Never mind it being broadcast on national tv, not knowing how it was going to be shown and that the tabloids may have had a field day on it.

His dancing is insipid though. I know very little about Matt, Scott, and Kara as people, but I like them because they can dance.

But she didn't get him to his full potential either, now did she. Phil also never looked at ease with her.

I just don't get her, she comes across like a moaning tryhard, and isn't funny to boot either. Plus, probably one of the worse pros/choreographers there, in all fairness.

I stand by my statement - Gavin isn't perfect but could possibly have done quite a bit better with a better pro. Or better suited to him pro, if that makes you feel better.

For evidence : See Michelle's improvement with Ian, a known great teacher. And Natalie Lowe, clearly a great teacher too.

Never seen Gavin on anything else, never read a single gossip column about him. Agree his dancing has been woeful so far. Bemused by spite exhibited here. When this series began, got the impression Gavin was a bit of a plank, a personality-free zone. But I'm beginning to think there's a good streak of self-deprecating, ironic, subtle humour in him. So I'm quite liking him, even though his dancing sucks.

I was very anti-Gavin at the outset, given his track record against England on the rugby field.

I am now going as far as voting for him, though. He's not the most natural dancer, to be sure, but he's coping well with being miles out of his comfort zone. (If you don't naturally show much emotion then it must be very hard for a non-actor type to just switch it on.) His "anti-luvvie" approach to the usual inane questions is also very refreshing. I think his sense of humour is a bit too dry for the "in your face" approach that SCD seems to require.

Next week will be interesting in terms of who's in the bottom 2. I'd assume Michelle will be, but beyond that, we don't know yet how the mid-pack runners are faring in the phone vote. He could last another 5 weeks or just 1, even with no improvement.

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Well said. I don't know whether to laugh or cry that some people can make judgements on people they have never met and only ever seen in TV programmes or read about them in the gutter press!

I'm judging him purely on his dancing, which totally blows

it doesn't help that the people who want him to stay invariably go on about how he looks with his top off

My opinion too. TBH - I really wasn't expecting to like him but he has grown on me. His face in hands comment to Tess after his dance when he groaned 'oh no, and I was bigging it up all week' was so refreshingly honest. His approach is very different and I hope it does pay out for him. If he could nail just one dance that would be great.

what you expect gavin to be dancing like Ricky whittle??...yeah good luck with that!
however ian and Gavin, that'll be a new one

Gavin has to stay as long as possible.....in order that I can have my weekly fix of the gorgeous Katya